Regulated Market GGpoker.ca Blatantly allowing bot farm

Regulated Market GGpoker.ca Blatantly allowing bot farm

Most low/midstake Ontario players who have looked into it agree something is going on while not all agree with my prop p

02 October 2023 at 03:13 AM
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by MoViN.tArGeT

do you work for gg? why do you care. can you plz tell them to investigate these guys thanks. your focusing on a sidenote . Can you supplie evidence of the gg brand getting ringfence licenses anywhere else? because this was the first and possibly last and they got in under the wsop name not the gg name. I only brought it up to explain that this site likely has independent manage

Dude, stop deflecting and stop making stuff up out of thin air. Ontario's poker market is regulated by the OGC, so any games they offer in your province are going to have special agreements in place between the regulator and the casinos that offer the games. For example, in American markets where pokerstars is allowed, they have to have a partnership with a land based casino in the state in question. And yes, GG recently was approved to operate in Pennsylvania. Not clubGG which operates almost everywhere in the US, but GG poker, a Pennsylvania based operator similar to Ontario. WSOP is a brand owed by Caesar's who also owns WSOP.com which operates in Nevada and New Jersey. GG is a different company that is in partnership with Caesar's to offer WSOP online throughout the world. Whether or not they operate in Ontario or Pennsylvania or anywhere else is an open question. Nothing you have said is evidence of a severed relationship between GG and WSOP, globally or in Ontario or anywhere else. And your claim GG Ontario has different management from GG globally is made up too. Stop making stuff up.


by TookashotatChan

Stop making stuff up and people won't call you out for it. What is happening with wsop.ca is not evidence that GG and WSOP have altered their partnership in any way, and more likely has to do with the Ontario gaming commission and its regulations in that very specific subcommunity than anything about the relationship between the two.

Just to reiterate myself, Target has been known to fabricate a lot of his facts in order to further support his "theories". In addition, what he’s doing is not for the greater good of online poker, he’s been hoping to get rid of those players for over a year now in order to increase his hourly as they are better than him skill wise and put up similar volume so he'll be losing a lot of leaderboard competition if they leave.

Thankfully, Ontario iGaming and GG poker hasn't done anything in over half a year of knowing this, so clearly nothing will be done as they are the ones who can see what Target is claiming, to be completely untrue.


by KookyStrength

Obviously regs are a net negative for the overall ecosystem, but a broken clock is right twice a day. While he may be acting in the best interest of the community this time, don't let the countless examples of him doing whatever it takes for his self gain.1) Moving Target (OP of this thread) has openly admitted to mass opening tables and tanking every action in order to secure

For anyone who needs further evidence of Target fabricating truths to support his own goals and careing about integrity only when it benefits himself.


The troll is out again admins plz. Im just giving my opinions if they are wrong they are wrong. am I not allowed to have opinions? Gg is not public about things so we have to make assumptions. We are theorizing on non public information. I never once claimed I knew everything about an offtopic thing not sure why your so butthurt.

Since you appear to work for gg can you plz give us some relevant insider information about this thread and stop derailing it about pointless things plz.


by MoViN.tArGeT

The troll is out again admins plz. Im just giving my opinions if they are wrong they are wrong. am I not allowed to have opinions? Gg is not public about things so we have to make assumptions. We are theorizing on non public information. I never once claimed I knew everything about an offtopic thing not sure why your so butthurt. Since you appear to work for gg can you plz giv

Like my pappy used to say, assumptions are the mother of all conspiracy theory posts on the internet


wdym 2+2 loves the drama. No one has done anything about this but me. So you get the good with the bad. Now your doing what you just complained about me doing while contributing nothing. amazing. I will report one post tho

Maybe your some beta cuck who allows people to give out your Name and call you a racist on the internet but that isn't me


by TookashotatChan

Like my pappy used to say, assumptions are the mother of all conspiracy theory posts on the internet

serious question have you read the op? That's where the relevant information is anything after is mostly brain storming


by MoViN.tArGeT

The troll is out again admins plz. Im just giving my opinions if they are wrong they are wrong. am I not allowed to have opinions? Gg is not public about things so we have to make assumptions. We are theorizing on non public information. I never once claimed I knew everything about an offtopic thing not sure why your so butthurt. Since you appear to work for gg can you plz giv

Yes and I'm here just giving my opinion on the credibility of the person (you) making such accusations against a group of regs

In addition, I'm also here to shed some light on what goes on in the Ontario Poker Players discord channel which you don't mention.

Lastly, your stories are full of holes and I'm just letting everyone on 2p2 know the full story. Not just the side you choose to mention to fit your narrative.


by MoViN.tArGeT

serious question have you read the op? That's where the relevant information is anything after is mostly brain storming

Ya I read the whole thread. You pulling made up stuff out of your butt is not helping your cause here.


Your banned from the discord and gg for cheating so your opinion does not matter. sorry


by MoViN.tArGeT

wdym 2+2 loves the drama. No one has done anything about this but me. So you get the good with the bad. Now your doing what you just complained about me doing while contributing nothing. amazing. I will report one post tho

Maybe your some beta cuck who allows people to give out your Name and call you a racist on the internet but that isn't me

In the screenshots I've provided about your GG chat, were you not racist?

Telling people to go back to Russia?

In case you didn't know, Canada highly values diversity and encourages people from all cultures to come together. Diversity is our strength. We welcome EVERYONE.

You clearly do not share any of the Canadian values by insulting people (presumably immigrants and other people seeking for a better life in Canada) and telling them to go back to their country of origin.

GG admins clearly agree with that as well, as they have permanetly removed your chatting privilages for being racist (as well as having no integrity by revealing your hole cards so other regs can lose).


by TookashotatChan

Ya I read the whole thread. You pulling made up stuff out of your butt is not helping your cause here.

the case is not held up by one fact tho. the case is proven correct by the fact that even if half of the evidence is wrong. they are still mathematically working together. Do you understand that even if 4 of the 12 listed things are true that makes it a multitude of 1 in a trillion that they are not aligned?

So now that we have deducted they are aligned they are either a call center/bot team or a stable. If they were a stable someone in ontario would know one of them and they would have nothing to lose from coming out and saying they are a stable. We can assume they are not a stable

To address the troll. Saying go back to Russia is not racist lol. No one cares if I got chat banned from gg for saying that. Im clearly implying they are bots since Russia is often associated with botting


by MoViN.tArGeT

the case is not held up by one fact tho. the case is proven correct by the fact that even if half of the evidence is wrong. they are still mathematically working together. Do you understand that even if 4 of the 12 listed things are true that makes it a multitude of 1 in a trillion that they are not aligned? So now that we have deducted they are aligned they are either a call c

It shows your true character. I've never heard of any Russian botting until the recent ACR events (other than your random claims but I treat it with a grain of salt).

Just as I thought you could stoop no lower, you come rambling into GG poker chat and proved me wrong. A racist and close minded man child who only cares about integrity when it suits him.


by MoViN.tArGeT

Do you understand that even if 4 of the 12 listed things are true that makes it a multitude of 1 in a trillion that they are not aligned?

No, I don't. Can you show the math you used to arrive at this conclusion? 😃


by KookyStrength

It shows your true character. I've never heard of any Russian botting until the recent ACR events (other than your random claims but I treat it with a grain of salt).

Just as I thought you could stoop no lower, you come rambling into GG poker chat and proved me wrong. A racist and close minded man child who only cares about integrity when it suits him.

Russian bot rings have been a thing for the better part of a decade. The most famous bot forum is in Russian. Russia, Ukraine, and Belarus are the most likely locations for a bot to be from.

So maybe you just don't have any insight into the subject. It would help everyone if you stopped posting your ignorance all over the thread.


by coordi

Russian bot rings have been a thing for the better part of a decade. The most famous bot forum is in Russian. Russia, Ukraine, and Belarus are the most likely locations for a bot to be from.

So maybe you just don't have any insight into the subject. It would help everyone if you stopped posting your ignorance all over the thread.

If Target truly thought it was a bot, why did he even bother typing to the bot in chat? Clearly it would have no impact.

So he's clearly using the cover of "it's a bot" to justify his blatant racism.


bots have operators he used emojis to flame the whale who donated me like 1000bb and it triggered me. Here is what a bot farm actually look like for the uneducated

https://twitter.com/i/status/17429326791...
https://twitter.com/i/status/17429386429...


by MoViN.tArGeT

I would like to add to the evidence to prove they are working together. something that slipped my mind This should make it go from 10000000000000000000x100-1 to 10000000000000000000000000000x100-112. Every new years and at random points gg offers you to change your screen name. They also give you name changes based on secret variables. People of similar volume have been offered

Evidence 12


The first picture is what your random regs name change history looks like. The others are the suspects. They have been active for 400 days. Its pretty sus their only name change happened within 48-72 hours is it not? Considering most regs like me who have played a similar amount of hands have change their names up to 5 times over the same amount of time


This kooky guy clearly has mental issues.


by MoViN.tArGeT

Most low/midstake Ontario players who have looked into it agree something is going on while not all agree with my prop player theory almost everyone thinks something is going on. Also the fact many regs have sent emails to gg about this makes it unlikely they are bots since in theory they are so obvious they would have done something about it. This is also in a new regulated ma

I fail to see how this is anything but a description of a group of rakeback grinders.


Every winning player on ggpoker is a "rakeback" grinder. Do you think a discord with countless fulltime pros who all think these account are sus are wrong? Based on your post about me in the other thread you seem to be quite mistaken by the quality of players who think something is up this is not a bunch of people on reddit claiming poker is rigged. People who play these games everyday and make a living from them are quite certain something is up.

11 "rakeback grinder" would not play exclusively 8-4am during the hours of the toughest field in Ontario. all at the same time
11 "rakeback grinder" would not game start 1$ all in or fold games while playing with 4k+ in cash games
11 "rakeback grinders" would not all be unknown players in a small poker community with a discord of 700+ semi serious or pro players and alot of people who know each other irl
11 rakeback grinders" would not play a combined 15 million nl200 hands without ever once shot taking nl500
11 rakeback grinders" would not all get together and start +ev satellites at 3am
11 rakeback grinders" would not all use the same seating script which includes never using the waitlist feature which is something literally everyone does.
11 "rakeback grinders" would not ignore the leaderboard placements which is literally rakeback and a very high percentage too.
11 "rakeback grinders" would not all change their username within a 72hour window

Not sure why I am responding to you based on your post history but thanks for bumping the thread

Also this is Canada we dont have what you consider a "rakeback grinder" you need to make like 60-80k a year minimum to make playing poker to make it worth with the cost of living in Canada


by MoViN.tArGeT

Every winning player on ggpoker is a "rakeback" grinder. Do you think a discord with countless fulltime pros who all think these account are sus are wrong? 11 "rakeback grinder" would not play exclusively 8-4am during the hours of the toughest field in Ontario. all at the same time11 "rakeback grinder" would not game start 1$ all in or fold games while playing with 4k+ in cash

Mods should close this thread.


by TookashotatChan

Mods should close this thread.

It’d be much better if they closed your account.


by TookashotatChan

Mods should close this thread.

This is your response to a list of things that prove these aren't rakeback grinders, which is what you claimed in the previous post? Are you an idiot?


by chiefsfan17

This is your response to a list of things that prove these aren't rakeback grinders, which is what you claimed in the previous post? Are you an idiot?

would not play exclusively 8-4am during the hours of the toughest field in Ontario. all at the same time

First of all "toughest field in Ontario" is hilarious. GG Ontario is probably one of the softest pools on earth. Also, tf not?

would not game start 1$ all in or fold games while playing with 4k+ in cash games

tf not? I've legit done this myself to give my brain a break and break up the monotony

would not all be unknown players in a small poker community with a discord of 700+ semi serious or pro players and alot of people who know each other irl

tf not? Sounds to me like you and your semi pro friends are the ones doing something shady when 11 people can't play poker without remaining unknown to you and your booger flicking friends

would not play a combined 15 million nl200 hands without ever once shot taking nl500

tf not? Lots of people never move up

would not all get together and start +ev satellites at 3am

tf wouldn't they start +ev satellites at the times they play?

would not all use the same seating script which includes never using the waitlist feature which is something literally everyone does.

It's been known for a long time you can bypass the waitlist on GG by opening the table and clicking open seat when someone leaves.

I mean this is all super silly. None of these things are even remotely suspicious, and mods should close this thread.

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