Botfarm won $10 Million on WPN

Was referring to you, DegenTarantino.

I see them when you quote or copy/paste it, just like you just did. The theman's post looks fine from here. But when you quote it, I see those characters. Maybe a browser setting on your end?

It appears you're seeing it whenever someone uses the "curly" quotation mark character rather than the "straight" one. It probably doesn't translate to your screen, and you see a code. So “this” might look different to you from "this," even though they look pretty similar for me as I type it.

If theman works a lot in typography AND he uses a Mac, perhaps he types quote marks with the Opt-[ and Opt-Shift-[ keystrokes. (I was like that for years until Macs added the feature to automatically convert quote marks and dashes. Which was good because I didn't have that feature on my Windows comps, and I'm too lazy to do the whole Alt+0147 thing.)

That doesn't make any sense, though. I was complaining about his decision to not cover his feet at a public appearance.

I doubt Tarantino would include his feet in any of his scenes.

there are multiple posts concerning whether these are house bots. there are two scenarios:

1) wpn deploys botnets to bleed players dry
2) wpn deliberately looks the other way on fair play security measures, ignores all emails from individual players/sleuths demonstrating vast networks of bots with identical stats (often similar screenname conventions) and hhs showing they play the same tables and collude with artificial squeezes, allowing ever growing bot populations to thrive

are those two scenarios very different as far as wpn's bottom line is concerned?

under (1), they get to keep the proceeds of their bot networks, but also have to pay programmers and ops people to implement/manage the scheme, and would be open to massive reputational risk if the program were ever exposed by an insider or extra clever sleuth

under (2), they get to outsource programming/ops to the pros, maintain plausible deniability when bulletproof evidence of widespread botnetting inevitably goes mainstream ("we are doubling our security team and will ensure this never happens again! promise!") ensuring business continuity, and give up the maybe few bb/100 in botting profits but collecting a more significant chunk on the backend with rake generated by the 3rd party bots (isn't this estimated at 5-7 bb/100 per player? to say nothing of the benefit they'd provide shoring up mtt overlays)

so i think it's fair to refer to these as "house bots" either way... even if wpn didn't commission them directly, they're tacitly outsourcing the bots by blatantly failing to enforce their security policy and openly mocking their own "manifesto"

Thank you for this explanation. I appreciate it. Just started seeing them all over the place today.

I'm just saying that you are paying an uncomfortable amount of attention to people's feet...

I made one post about it. Wtf?

Okay TheArchHunter

+1... can't find the thread but i think a year or two ago there was a whistleblower from a botting operation who said their operation bought ID documentation (for pretty cheap) from residents in other countries

lol

Why do so many acr players say there’s no other option for online poker?

Do they not have Ignition BOL or poker bros?

Global, BOL, Ignition (doesn't take players from every State), WPN, and now CoinPoker are all viable options. You could even play on the Horizon network. I hardly ever see anyone even mention poker bros. To answer your question, though: I don't really know. That's something else that's always seemed strange to me, too.

There's alotta shady accounts/stuff happening on ignition over the last year + thats well documented in the thread relevant to that site, to top it off unless you signed up for rakeback through someone their rewards system is absolute trash, probaly why some people chose acr instead atleast they give rakeback. Best thing for the US now more than ever would be federal regulation but that obviously isn't happening any time soon and the PPA was absolutely worthless on that front how many years ago

I am playing on ACR right now in a $22 pko I see 3 names on the list on my table, why are they not banning these players?

it has to do with the Character Encoding settings of your browser (ie how your browser interprets characters). UTF-8 is the default.

I've noticed that the accounts topping The Beast rake race leaderboard have changed substantially since the bot farm allegations came out - anyone else spot the same and find that kind of suspicious?

Have had this happen a lot on my phone. Typically happens when I write a long post and my login times out before the I submit the post. It's just an error with the website ... nothing suspicious about it.

Don't agree w the guy you quoted though, all for banning the botting countries. WPN verifies addresses (in my experience)

Clowns. Here is the video where he discusses his adventure on 200NL. Not sure if it is still ongoing. The graph you posted was his first 50k hands, in which he admits to getting a feel for the pool in the first 30k hands or so, and playing suboptimally by limping SB, cold calling SB, etc.

@47:50 he discusses his monthly results of 5bb/100 pre rakeback @200NL Blitz on ACR
@49:00 they discuss the rakeback of 27% + points etc
@49:20 he does mental math and post rakeback he won 12.5bb/100
@50:00 they discuss how rakeback alone is $40/hr, combined with a decent winrate maybe as high as $100/hr

If you play 40hrs/week that's 200k a year. At 200NL. On the worst US-facing site you can play on.

Tl;dr Get good and game select, shitregs

but he never played more, those are his the most recent results., nobody cares what happened few years ago

Because you will still play on their site, even with them, like you are right now.

Money talks, especially when it walks.

Right. I was speaking from memory, so got the winrate wrong. The point stands. Winrates are WAY higher on other platforms.

A guy who thinks like you do would pass on a $100 bill in the gutter and claim it must be fake because if it was real someone else would have picked it up already.

so the real question is

has black friday caused all this cos of usa tards that cant run a billion dollar gold mine? i mean was all this happening pre-black friday ?there was no need to,

so since the market dried up, players win rate dropped......how can i make the same money as before....cheat...and this is for all the recent threads regarding scandal./cheating etc

poker is a scummbags game now i was once a proud professional winner....

personally i think once HUDS were allowed this allowed cheating.,i really studied poker, 12 tabling multiple cash games, keeping it all in my head, then HUDS were accepted cos it satisfied the higher winners....then this then that....next thing we have a basic program saying call raise fold. fu all. fu luck....

Yet he never posted the graph and ghosted the challenge.

Also lol at rakeback being $40/hr at 200nl

Sounds beyond extremely hypothetical bro. lol
You are extrapolating an awful lot from an awful lot of nothing.

P.S. why did “getting a feel for the pool” involve playing poorly?