Fun Hand Histories Containment Thread

Interesting. Could also just be a factor of them wanting to see one more card.

Yeah true I need to study river spots and see if I can find an example

Not sure if this is the right approach...

I have Donk Fold to a Raise at 35.4%

Added Filter (DidRiverDonkBet = Yes) and Donk Fold to a Raise is at 37.5% (1313 hands)

Added Filter RiverBetSize < 51% and Donk Fold to a Raise is at 43.1% (615 hands)

vs a Passive Fish with PFR no higher than 13, the DF to a R is down to 30% (but that's only across 30 hands)

That's actually a really good flop example, so in my data I have fish as 42 weak for donk leads but only folding 38% vs a raise. MDF is something like 50%. Although Tombos made a good point about how flop/turns are actually over defended relative to MDF and you can prove this by looking at flop/turn aggregated reports.

But yeah basically you NEVER bluff raise air vs a fish donk lead because they overdefend, even though they are over bluffing.

I still want to find a river spot haha

Ok still not sure, but maybe this is it?

615 hands where they donk river < B51

Of those 615 hands, they were raised a total of 192 times. Here's the breakdown between call, raise and fold vs a raise.

Call - 75 times / 39%
Raise - 13 times / 7%
Fold - 104 times / 54%

Love your turn raise fellow traveler

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NL Holdem 0.25(BB)
HERO (109.2BBs)
CO (85BBs) [VPIP: 35.3% | PFR: 29.4% | AGG: 33.3% | Hands: 19]
BTN (100BBs) [VPIP: 23.5% | PFR: 11.8% | AGG: 20% | Hands: 36]
SB (118.5BBs) [VPIP: 26.7% | PFR: 20% | AGG: 50% | Hands: 15]

Dealt to Hero: 8♠ K♠

CO Folds, BTN Folds, SB Raises To 3BBs, HERO Calls 2BBs

Hero SPR on Flop: [17.69 effective]
Flop (6BBs): 7♠ 8♣ 4♦
SB Checks, HERO Bets 3.4BBs (Rem. Stack: 102.8BBs), SB Calls 3.4BBs (Rem. Stack: 112.1BBs)

Turn (12.7BBs): 7♠ 8♣ 4♦ 3♠
SB Checks, HERO Bets 6.6BBs (Rem. Stack: 96.2BBs), SB Raises To 19.2BBs (Rem. Stack: 92.9BBs), HERO Calls 12.6BBs (Rem. Stack: 83.6BBs)

River (51.1BBs): 7♠ 8♣ 4♦ 3♠ 5♠
SB Bets 92.9BBs (allin), HERO Calls 83.6BBs (allin)

Villain doubles up through me in the first hand. Then punts it off the very next hand and leaves.

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NL Holdem 0.5(BB)
HERO (174.4BBs)
HJ (103.3BBs) [VPIP: 51.6% | PFR: 19.4% | AGG: 15.2% | Hands: 31]
CO (89.3BBs) [VPIP: 85.7% | PFR: 57.1% | AGG: 76.9% | Hands: 7]
BTN (112.4BBs) [VPIP: 64.9% | PFR: 10.8% | AGG: 47.8% | Hands: 37]
SB (176.7BBs) [VPIP: 38.1% | PFR: 27% | AGG: 29% | Hands: 63]
BB (100BBs) [VPIP: 0% | PFR: 0% | AGG: 0% | Hands: 2]

Dealt to Hero: K♣ J♣

HERO Raises To 2.5BBs, HJ Folds, CO Raises To 4BBs, BTN Calls 4BBs, SB Folds, BB Folds, HERO Calls 1.5BBs

Hero SPR on Flop: [6.32 effective]
Flop (13.5BBs): 5♣ 3♥ 3♣
HERO Checks, CO Bets 12.8BBs (Rem. Stack: 72.5BBs), BTN Folds, HERO Calls 12.8BBs (Rem. Stack: 157.5BBs)

Turn (39.2BBs): 5♣ 3♥ 3♣ J♠
HERO Checks, CO Bets 37.2BBs (Rem. Stack: 35.2BBs), HERO Calls 37.2BBs (Rem. Stack: 120.3BBs)

River (113.7BBs): 5♣ 3♥ 3♣ J♠ T♣
HERO Checks, CO Bets 35.2BBs (allin), HERO Calls 35.2BBs (Rem. Stack: 85.1BBs)

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NL Holdem 0.5(BB)
HERO (85.1BBs)
UTG (103.3BBs) [VPIP: 53.1% | PFR: 21.9% | AGG: 17.1% | Hands: 32]
HJ (176.1BBs) [VPIP: 87.5% | PFR: 50% | AGG: 76.9% | Hands: 8]
CO (108.4BBs) [VPIP: 65.8% | PFR: 10.5% | AGG: 50% | Hands: 38]
BTN (176.2BBs) [VPIP: 37.5% | PFR: 26.6% | AGG: 29% | Hands: 64]
SB (99BBs) [VPIP: 0% | PFR: 0% | AGG: 0% | Hands: 3]

Dealt to Hero: T♥ Q♣

UTG Folds, HJ Calls 1BBs, CO Calls 1BBs, BTN Raises To 4.5BBs, SB Folds, HERO Folds, HJ Raises To 8BBs, CO Folds, BTN Calls 3.5BBs

Flop (18.5BBs): 3♣ 8♦ A♥
HJ Bets 17.6BBs (Rem. Stack: 150.5BBs), BTN Calls 17.6BBs (Rem. Stack: 150.6BBs)

Turn (53.7BBs): 3♣ 8♦ A♥ 4♦
HJ Bets 51BBs (Rem. Stack: 99.5BBs), BTN Calls 51BBs (Rem. Stack: 99.6BBs)

River (155.6BBs): 3♣ 8♦ A♥ 4♦ 7♥
HJ Bets 1BBs (Rem. Stack: 98.5BBs), BTN Raises To 90.9BBs (Rem. Stack: 8.7BBs), HJ Calls 89.9BBs (Rem. Stack: 8.6BBs)

So demoralizing when that happens. Had the same happen to me this morning.

The best hand won, it's fair

€0.20 NL (5 max)

BTN: 100 BB
SB: 170.1 BB
Hero (BB): 102.7 BB
CO: 107.85 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T♥ T♠

CO raises to 2.5 BB, BTN calls 2.5 BB, SB calls 2 BB, Hero raises to 14.5 BB, fold, BTN calls 12 BB, SB calls 12 BB

Flop: (46 BB, 3 players) 6♦ 5♥ 3♦
SB bets 46 BB, Hero raises to 88.2 BB and is all-in, BTN calls 85.5 BB and is all-in, SB calls 42.2 BB

Turn: (307.9 BB, 3 players) T♣

River: (307.9 BB, 3 players) J♠

BTN shows 5♠ 5♣ (Three of a Kind, Fives)
SB shows 3♣ 3♠ (Three of a Kind, Threes)
Hero shows T♥ T♠ (Three of a Kind, Tens)
Hero wins 297.9 BB

Buddy...if you're going to open K5o, you can't puss out on the triple.

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NL Holdem 0.5(BB)
HERO (144.9BBs)
HJ (99.7BBs) [VPIP: 22% | PFR: 17.1% | AGG: 13% | Hands: 41]
CO (106.4BBs) [VPIP: 17.6% | PFR: 17.6% | AGG: 16.7% | Hands: 17]
BTN (178.9BBs) [VPIP: 30% | PFR: 20% | AGG: 30.3% | Hands: 40]
SB (92.7BBs) [VPIP: 40% | PFR: 6% | AGG: 35% | Hands: 51]

Dealt to Hero: Q♣ A♥

HJ Folds, CO Folds, BTN Raises To 3BBs, SB Folds, HERO Calls 2BBs

Hero SPR on Flop: [21.82 effective]
Flop (6.5BBs): 6♦ 6♠ 2♥
HERO Checks, BTN Bets 4BBs (Rem. Stack: 171.9BBs), HERO Calls 4BBs (Rem. Stack: 137.9BBs)

Turn (14.5BBs): 6♦ 6♠ 2♥ 4♣
HERO Checks, BTN Bets 11BBs (Rem. Stack: 160.9BBs), HERO Calls 11BBs (Rem. Stack: 126.9BBs)

River (36.5BBs): 6♦ 6♠ 2♥ 4♣ A♠
HERO Checks, BTN Checks

I know the river is supposed to always be a fold, but these overbet lines from the pf caller usually don't make any sense.

Yatahay Network - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 123.28 BB
Hero (SB): 100 BB
BB: 128.04 BB
UTG: 151.8 BB
MP: 128.24 BB
CO: 126.16 BB

Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Q♣ J♥

fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (6 BB, 2 players) 8♥ Q♥ T♣
Hero checks, BB bets 3 BB, Hero calls 3 BB

Turn: (12 BB, 2 players) 6♣
Hero checks, BB bets 15.6 BB, Hero calls 15.6 BB

River: (43.2 BB, 2 players) J♦
Hero checks, BB bets 106.44 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 78.4 BB and is all-in

Hero shows Q♣ J♥ (Two Pair, Queens and Jacks)
(Pre 59%, Flop 96%, Turn 89%)
BB shows 6♦ 5♦ (One Pair, Sixes)
(Pre 41%, Flop 4%, Turn 11%)
Hero wins 190 BB

More overbet nonsense from a complete unknown when they just never have anything. Or maybe he nitfolded 22.

Yatahay Network - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 110.56 BB
Hero (SB): 106.32 BB
BB: 120 BB
UTG: 100 BB
MP: 144.6 BB
CO: 115.6 BB

Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 7♦ T♦

fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.48 BB, BB calls 1.48 BB

Flop: (4.96 BB, 2 players) A♣ 7♥ 2♥
Hero checks, BB bets 6 BB, Hero raises to 18 BB, BB calls 12 BB

Turn: (40.96 BB, 2 players) K♠
Hero bets 26.72 BB, fold

Hero wins 38.92 BB

Maybe it applies across all player types, but regs that use large sizes in small bet spots are massively overbluffing. (see my AQo hand above)

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NL Holdem 0.5(BB)
HERO (229.8BBs)
UTG (119.1BBs) [VPIP: 21% | PFR: 13% | AGG: 29% | Hands: 100]
HJ (203.8BBs) [VPIP: 44.7% | PFR: 25.5% | AGG: 21.4% | Hands: 97]
CO (104BBs) [VPIP: 31.1% | PFR: 24.4% | AGG: 17.2% | Hands: 46]
BTN (325.8BBs) [VPIP: 36.6% | PFR: 34.1% | AGG: 39.1% | Hands: 124]
SB (274.1BBs) [VPIP: 14.6% | PFR: 12.2% | AGG: 50% | Hands: 124]

Dealt to Hero: J♦ J♠

UTG Folds, HJ Raises To 3BBs, CO Folds, BTN Folds, SB Folds, HERO Raises To 12BBs, HJ Calls 9BBs

Hero SPR on Flop: [7.83 effective]
Flop (24.5BBs): A♦ Q♥ 3♦
HERO Bets 5.8BBs (Rem. Stack: 212BBs), HJ Calls 5.8BBs (Rem. Stack: 185.9BBs)

Turn (36.1BBs): A♦ Q♥ 3♦ K♦
HERO Checks, HJ Checks

River (36.1BBs): A♦ Q♥ 3♦ K♦ K♠
HERO Bets 34.3BBs (Rem. Stack: 177.6BBs), HJ Folds

I was just talking about this in one of doodoos threads. I took about a 5mo break and come back and now this is like the new hot play everybody is trying to make where they just overbet all over the place in weird spots.

Ive snapped off a bunch of bluffs like this just by saying, you have nothing in range that actually wants to overbet here wtf are you trying to accomplish?

These 200nl regs are tricksy

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NL Holdem 2(BB)
HERO ($207.32) [VPIP: 29% | PFR: 24.2% | AGG: 36.7% | Flop Agg: 41.9% | Turn Agg: 33.8% | River Agg: 36.8% | 3Bet: 11.6% | 4Bet: 14.2% | Hands: 306578]
SB ($198) [VPIP: 33.3% | PFR: 33.3% | AGG: 33.3% | Flop Agg: 100% | Turn Agg: 0% | River Agg: 0% | 3Bet: 50% | Fold to 3Bet: 0% | 4Bet: 0% | Hands: 3]
BB ($203) [VPIP: 8.3% | PFR: 8.3% | AGG: 0% | Hands: 13]
UTG ($200) [VPIP: 0% | PFR: 0% | AGG: 0% | Hands: 6]
HJ ($244.50) [VPIP: 23.3% | PFR: 16.7% | AGG: 30% | Hands: 33]
CO ($209.33) [VPIP: 33.3% | PFR: 30.3% | AGG: 50% | Hands: 33]

Dealt to Hero: J♠ T♠

UTG Folds, HJ Folds, CO Folds, HERO Raises To $5, SB Raises To $20, BB Folds, HERO Calls $15

Hero SPR on Flop: [4.24 effective]
Flop ($42): J♥ J♦ 3♦
SB Bets $13 (Rem. Stack: $165), HERO Calls $13 (Rem. Stack: $174.32)

Turn ($68): J♥ J♦ 3♦ A♣
SB Checks, HERO Bets $43.28 (Rem. Stack: $131.04), SB Calls $43.28 (Rem. Stack: $121.72)

River ($154.56): J♥ J♦ 3♦ A♣ K♦
SB Checks, HERO Checks

5th pair ftw

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NL Holdem 2(BB)
HERO ($395.11) [VPIP: 29% | PFR: 24.2% | AGG: 36.7% | Flop Agg: 41.9% | Turn Agg: 33.8% | River Agg: 36.8% | 3Bet: 11.6% | 4Bet: 14.2% | Hands: 306578]
CO ($200) [VPIP: 18.2% | PFR: 18.2% | AGG: 33.3% | Hands: 11]
BTN ($200) [VPIP: 50% | PFR: 30% | AGG: 0% | Hands: 10]
SB ($282) [VPIP: 40% | PFR: 33.3% | AGG: 42.9% | Hands: 31]
BB ($207.35) [VPIP: 28.6% | PFR: 21.4% | AGG: 33.3% | Flop Agg: 0% | Turn Agg: 50% | River Agg: 50% | 3Bet: 25% | 4Bet: 0% | Cold Call: 12.5% | Hands: 14]
UTG ($701.15) [VPIP: 27.6% | PFR: 13.8% | AGG: 22.2% | Hands: 31]

Dealt to Hero: 3♣ A♣

UTG Folds, HERO Raises To $4, CO Folds, BTN Folds, SB Folds, BB Calls $2

Hero SPR on Flop: [22.59 effective]
Flop ($9): 6♦ K♠ 4♠
BB Checks, HERO Checks

Turn ($9): 6♦ K♠ 4♠ K♦
BB Bets $2 (Rem. Stack: $201.35), HERO Calls $2 (Rem. Stack: $389.11)

River ($13): 6♦ K♠ 4♠ K♦ 3♦
BB Bets $19 (Rem. Stack: $182.35), HERO Calls $19 (Rem. Stack: $370.11)

Nice check in that first hand. I got pwned a couple times last night in same situations when i went for thin value on the river and got XR. I didnt believe them. I lost.

Yeah the turn is suspect because population is overbarreling turn so when he X's I'm pretty sure he has something and I actually expect them to fold way under GTO to a turn stab.

River XR's are way underbluffed in a spot like this so you just need to fold to them.

Hard to imagine a worse way of playing AK.

€0.20 NL (5 max)

SB: 133 BB
BB: 109.8 BB
Hero (UTG): 109.85 BB
CO: 101.5 BB
BTN: 100 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 6♠ 6♥

Hero raises to 2.5 BB, fold, fold, fold, BB calls 1.5 BB

Flop: (5.5 BB, 2 players) K♣ 6♣ T♣
BB bets 5.5 BB, Hero calls 5.5 BB

Turn: (16.5 BB, 2 players) 9♠
BB bets 16.5 BB, Hero calls 16.5 BB

River: (49.5 BB, 2 players) K♦
BB bets 32.2 BB, Hero raises to 85.35 BB and is all-in, BB calls 53.1 BB and is all-in

BB shows A♥ K♠ (Three of a Kind, Kings)
Hero shows 6♠ 6♥ (Full House, Sixes full of Kings)
Hero wins 207.65 BB

guy wins like 5 BIs in 35 hands. GOAT

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NL Holdem 0.5(BB)
HERO (81.1BBs)
BB (150.1BBs) [VPIP: 30.8% | PFR: 17.9% | AGG: 16.1% | Hands: 40]
HJ (116.5BBs) [VPIP: 33.3% | PFR: 16.7% | AGG: 20% | Hands: 12]
CO (56.3BBs) [VPIP: 61.8% | PFR: 17.6% | AGG: 23.4% | Hands: 35]
BTN (35.8BBs) [VPIP: 83.3% | PFR: 33.3% | AGG: 0% | Hands: 6]

Dealt to Hero: 9♠ 8♠

HJ Raises To 2.2BBs, CO Raises To 5BBs, BTN Raises To 7.8BBs, HERO Folds, BB Raises To 20BBs, HJ Folds, CO Raises To 56.3BBs (allin), BTN Calls 28BBs (allin), BB Calls 36.3BBs

Flop (151.1BBs): A♦ 7♥ 6♣

Turn (151.1BBs): A♦ 7♥ 6♣ 8♥

River (151.1BBs): A♦ 7♥ 6♣ 8♥ 4♥

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NL Holdem 0.5(BB)
HERO (102.7BBs)
BTN (98.5BBs) [VPIP: 30.8% | PFR: 17.9% | AGG: 16.1% | Hands: 40]
SB (193.9BBs) [VPIP: 61.8% | PFR: 17.6% | AGG: 23.4% | Hands: 35]
BB (100BBs) [VPIP: 30% | PFR: 20% | AGG: 35.7% | Hands: 20]

Dealt to Hero: T♥ A♠

HERO Raises To 2.5BBs, BTN Raises To 10BBs, SB Raises To 193.9BBs (allin), BB Folds, HERO Folds, BTN Calls 88.5BBs (allin)

Flop (295.9BBs): 9♦ 5♠ 6♣

Turn (295.9BBs): 9♦ 5♠ 6♣ 2♠

River (295.9BBs): 9♦ 5♠ 6♣ 2♠ 8♦

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NL Holdem 0.5(BB)
HERO (102.5BBs)
UTG (104.4BBs) [VPIP: 30.8% | PFR: 17.9% | AGG: 16.1% | Hands: 40]
HJ (42.2BBs) [VPIP: 28.6% | PFR: 21.4% | AGG: 37.5% | Hands: 14]
CO (468.6BBs) [VPIP: 61.8% | PFR: 17.6% | AGG: 23.4% | Hands: 35]
BTN (110.5BBs) [VPIP: 36.4% | PFR: 0% | AGG: 16.7% | Hands: 11]
SB (119.3BBs) [VPIP: 0% | PFR: 0% | AGG: 0% | Hands: 4]

Dealt to Hero: K♥ A♣

UTG Folds, HJ Folds, CO Raises To 5BBs, BTN Folds, SB Folds, HERO Raises To 20BBs, CO Raises To 468.6BBs (allin), HERO Calls 82.5BBs (allin)

Flop (571.6BBs): 7♥ 4♠ 3♠

Turn (571.6BBs): 7♥ 4♠ 3♠ 8♠

River (571.6BBs): 7♥ 4♠ 3♠ 8♠ K♣

haha nice. how about the guy who ran at 220bb/100 over 5k hands at 500nl.

Sustainable?

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NL Holdem 2(BB)
HERO ($200) [VPIP: 29% | PFR: 24.2% | AGG: 36.7% | Flop Agg: 41.9% | Turn Agg: 33.8% | River Agg: 36.8% | 3Bet: 11.6% | 4Bet: 14.2% | Hands: 307145]
BB ($200) [VPIP: 46.2% | PFR: 46.2% | AGG: 71.4% | Flop Agg: 100% | Turn Agg: 50% | River Agg: 50% | 3Bet: 71.4% | Fold to 3Bet: 0% | 4Bet: 0% | Hands: 13]
UTG ($239.36) [VPIP: 14.3% | PFR: 7.1% | AGG: 40% | Hands: 15]
HJ ($200) [VPIP: 24% | PFR: 20% | AGG: 0% | Hands: 26]
CO ($531.21) [VPIP: 25% | PFR: 20.8% | AGG: 22.2% | Hands: 26]
BTN ($223.60) [VPIP: 12.5% | PFR: 6.3% | AGG: 0% | Hands: 16]

Dealt to Hero: 5♦ 5♥

UTG Folds, HJ Folds, CO Folds, BTN Folds, HERO Raises To $6, BB Raises To $16, HERO Calls $10

Hero SPR on Flop: [5.75 effective]
Flop ($32): 6♦ 5♠ T♠
HERO Checks, BB Bets $19 (Rem. Stack: $165), HERO Calls $19 (Rem. Stack: $165)

Turn ($70): 6♦ 5♠ T♠ 3♥
HERO Checks, BB Checks

River ($70): 6♦ 5♠ T♠ 3♥ K♣
HERO Checks, BB Bets $52 (Rem. Stack: $113), HERO Raises To $165 (allin), BB Calls $113 (allin)

3 flopped flushes is nuts

internet pokerz is rigged

just glad it was in my favor for once