Pete Clarke is out to destroy low stakes.

he prob won’t give any update on this until he is done

9bb/100 pre rakeback with this rake structure is likely impossible 6 handed

I highly doubt Pete will achieve this.

I think he overestimates his capabilities. I don't even know if I think he's winning in the top Rush & Cash pools.

But...

I have yet to find anyone else who teaches poker from the basics up, grounded in theory and teaches core principles I can learn from instead of getting buried in specific plays in every single spot where there are a lot of similarities.

I'd love to hear if anyone has recommendations on someone/somewhere they think is better but has a similar approach to teaching poker.

I also feel his courses are overpriced, but again, I'm yet to see a similar product. I've tried Upswing, PokerCoaching, RIO.

He is insufferable and I can't watch the entire video, but nowhere around the 19:45 mark does he mention pre rakeback, or anything about rake. You only need a brain to assume it is after rakeback, with GG rake and zoom format this is obvious, isn't it? But if you have another vid where he mentions pre rakeback explicitly, I am all ears.

Even the GOAT ishter11 (stakes higher than 100nl but I think Cameron is way way better player than Peter Clarke) never mentions he crushes anything pre rakeback on GG.

You only need a brain to assume pre rb because he is talking about winrate. Generally speaking when players talk about wr that means before any bonuses.

Make an youtube account, or a runitonce, then politely ask him if he means pre or post rb. Say there is no hate involved, just that you think GG rake is too high to 9 bb/100 as he said to be possible, but if he meant it, then we all wish success to him. If he says he really means pre rb, leave the room slowly without further eye contact or giving him your back, and at a safe distance, run for your life 😀

Not sure why you would assume a winrate is after rb? If someone asks me my winrate/ROI in tournaments I would tell them what it is sans bonuses and rakeback

Nobody (and i mean NOBODY) talks about their winrate in general including rakeback. If someone says they have a 10BB/100 winrate this is always gonna mean post rake and pre rakeback.

P.s. I have a brain.

I might have crossed the line when I wrote the having a brain thing, my apologies to anyone who got offended.

Ok ok no one gives winrates including rakeback. Then the only way for him to achieve 9 as he thinks he can is to not consider rake at all (isn't that graph provided by the GG software pre any rake?). Someone winning at 9 bb/100 pre anything at GG with a good RB% deal makes money in the end, and PC didn't technically lie.

I will make a very bold statement now 😀

People will still buy his courses even if he uses this technical card in the end as an excuse. Some people will still buy them from his site (even though anyone and his grandmother and his dog know nowadays you can get most of these courses for 10-20% of the price 😃 ). So assuming the community on average is very "exploitable" doesn't seem a dumb move at all by him.

That's illegal, though, just like pirating movies and music.

this. Lots of blah blah blah but zero actual numbers.

It's not enforceable, true, but the admins of this forum (David Sklansky and Mason Malmuth) make a living off of selling books.
I don't think they want forum members to condone pirating copyrighted material in their forum.

I'm not a poker luddite, don't think training sites, book and coaching in general is a nightmarish thing and it would happen anyway, but him and others selling MDA, especially MDA regarding the player type we can't really live without. I really hope Peter and the other team who did it lose their shirts.

No one posts what these sites are, I never will. No one is selling anything here on 2p2 as far as I know, and people who post it get banned right? I'm not a cheap reseller, just mentioned it as I actually like PC being punished for making an actual unethical course and profiting from it. Karma hahah

He's the kind of person to only show the results if they're good, and if he's breakeven or losing pretend the challenge never existed or come up with a hundred excuses to anyone asking rather than accept he's just not that good at poker

Rake on GG is literally so absurd that you basically have to talk in terms of rakeback. I paid 8bb/100 at 200nl, at 100 it's probably 10 or more.

Otherwise everyone's winrate is -2 to 2bb/100

Well then you say my wr is on the negative side but I make money post bonuses.

How other coaches who play on GG advertise their results? The few I looked at usually post the graph with the post-RB line showing, always. People won't make any coaching/course deal with you if you can only post a losing/breakeven graph as advertising, even if you come with the context of why this is the case.

Lol at saying your wr is X , whilst including your rakeback deal within that.

You say your actual win rate, then say but with rakeback it’s more like… X

Pretty funny that coaches are doing the former

Pete is getting some hate in here, whether it’s deserved idk.

He seems reasonable from what I’ve watched of him.

It will take him years to get his sample though. On a few YT vids he will play 2 tables of zoom for like 30 mins to get some content and that’ll be him done playing poker for the next 30 days.

To say he’s doing the challenge etc then just go quiet and I presume play virtually 0 volume is a bit of a BS move

yes, and offering coaching newbies while not being able to beat game is a SCAM

that guy charge 316$ per hour, while his hourly playing is like 20$.

Well, if you charge someone 316$ per hour and teach him how to make like 20$ a hour that's not a bad thing tho, only if he can do that

Has no one had the bright idea to just check on smarthand to see if he's even playing

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