The "LOLCANADA" thread...again

The "LOLCANADA" thread...again

So what's new?

I've noticed the Liberals are now ahead in all major polls and Trudeau hasn't even started to campaign yet...i'd be shocked if they lost the election now.

Just shows just how incompetent Conservatives are.

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11 July 2019 at 07:31 PM
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False excuse we don’t have any winter no more here 😀
Climate change ftw !


LOL.


by Montrealcorp k

False excuse we don’t have any winter no more here 😀
Climate change ftw !

Yes but with Justin’s awesome climate strategy winter will be back in a few years .

Though here in my new home there is a lack of snow which decimates skiing and snowmobiling

The funny thing about the Liberals losing all their support the NDP have picked up next to nothing . My guess is no election till next year sadly

Reality on the climate fight .If Canada ended all coal exports tomorrow through its ports it would have a larger impact than their carbon tax


by lozen k

Yes but with Justin’s awesome climate strategy winter will be back in a few years .

Though here in my new home there is a lack of snow which decimates skiing and snowmobiling

The funny thing about the Liberals losing all their support the NDP have picked up next to nothing . My guess is no election till next year sadly

Reality on the climate fight .If Canada ended all coal exports tomorrow through its ports it would have a larger impact than their carbon tax

U can believe it if u wish .
Let’s burn even more since high prices do not affect demand and do not entice innovation in your opinion …

U probably just discover u new theory about how economy works.


by Montrealcorp k

U can believe it if u wish .
Let’s burn even more since high prices do not affect demand and force innovation in your opinion …

As much as I believe Climate Change should be an important issue as all you need to do is look at the last few years. The reality is Canada contributes 1.5% I do believe to the overall picture and sadly anything we do will have no impact on Climate change. Yes per capita we may near the top but that is a useless number
Canada has always been heavy in resource development and farming and manufacturing and should plow ahead . We may be one of the more responsible countries in developing our resources and will continue to do that .

The reality is even if the Liberals remained in power till 2030 or 2035 I would bet they will never meet any of their goals .

To quote a famous politician. Any country that had the vast reserves Canada has would not leave them in the ground


by lozen k

As much as I believe Climate Change should be an important issue as all you need to do is look at the last few years. The reality is Canada contributes 1.5% I do believe to the overall picture and sadly anything we do will have no impact on Climate change. Yes per capita we may near the top but that is a useless number
Canada has always been heavy in resource development and farming and manufacturing and should plow ahead . We may be one of the more responsible countries in developing our reso

Doesn’t disproved anything I just said or enforce what u said .

High prices has no effect on oil demands rendering tax carbon useless .

The point of per capita is that Canadian population increases in a dramatic way and the influences of Canada will grow more and more in gaz emission.
Better to do something now because that % will increase dramatically since Canadian already are among the top of gaz emitter !
Canadian emits like 3X per capita the global average .

And again , nothing wrong being leaders in climate changes .
Actually we could make money by exporting our solutions from it in a near future because innovation comes from those that actually do the works , it doesn’t comes from thin air .

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by lozen k

Though here in my new home there is a lack of snow which decimates skiing and snowmobiling

I'm far more worried about the effect it's going to have on the coming summer; could be another fiery one.


Is the guy trying to fumble what should be a completely locked in election win? https://nationalnewswatch.com/2024/02/21....

Pair it with the new anti-trans culture warrior trans people can't even be allowed in bathrooms BS from earlier today and it is just sad to see him take the far right culture warrior stance.


by uke_master k

Is the guy trying to fumble what should be a completely locked in election win? https://nationalnewswatch.com/2024/02/21....

Pair it with the new anti-trans culture warrior trans people can't even be allowed in bathrooms BS from earlier today and it is just sad to see him take the far right culture warrior stance.

I actually do not disagree with you on this . I am not sure why he gave his position on the trans issue. His answer should have been Its up to the provinces and municipalities as for the porn issue I actually agree with him that you should be 18 to watch porn I think to many young kids watch it and it is very detrimental but good luck with that

Though this isn't exactly a good look for Justin . 1.3 million on affordability retreats Apologies on the whataboutism 😀

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/as...


by lozen k

I actually do not disagree with you on this . I am not sure why he gave his position on the trans issue. His answer should have been Its up to the provinces and municipalities as for the porn issue I actually agree with him that you should be 18 to watch porn I think to many young kids watch it and it is very detrimental but good luck with that

Though this isn't exactly a good look for Justin . 1.3 million on affordability retreats Apologies on the whataboutism 😀

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/as...

Man no matter which age you think should be appropriate for which content (that's a theoretical debate which would make sense on paper), and that shouldn't be limited to porn, you have to acknowledge when something is unenforceable and any attempt to enforce it are just wastes of time and effort, and will piss off people with no gain.

Keep it out of schools, forbid adults from providing that content to kids, but leave internet solo access alone because you can't enforce anything there.

Focus on what can be done to protect minors, which includes banning pseudoscientifical justifications for body modification.


by Luciom k

Man no matter which age you think should be appropriate for which content (that's a theoretical debate which would make sense on paper), and that shouldn't be limited to porn, you have to acknowledge when something is unenforceable and any attempt to enforce it are just wastes of time and effort, and will piss off people with no gain.

Keep it out of schools, forbid adults from providing that content to kids, but leave internet solo access alone because you can't enforce anything there.

Focus on wh

Though you have to admit if you could ban anyone under the age of 18 from accessing porn that would be a good thing ?


Ya the kids are going to figure out what a vpn is, it’s just pointless culture warrior “family values” BS. As with trans issues, these are issues parents should be working with their kids on, not paternalistic big government


by lozen k

Though you have to admit if you could ban anyone under the age of 18 from accessing porn that would be a good thing ?

Not if we allow 15y old to marry lol no.

Age of consent/legal access for porn, like all age of consent/legal access thresholds, should be consistent across the board.

If you can consent to sex you can consent to porn obviously, which is just a very small thing compared to actual sex.

I agree there should be an age of consent for accessing porn, but I tend to think 14 is probably a lot better than 18.

The internet giants set up fairly decent ways to protect the under13 already (but they require a parent or tutor to setup things properly), I can basically control all the digital content my kids use.

They would need to buy a device unknown to me to avoid that kind of control but that's not something which is easy to do for an under13 and to keep as a secret.

I think making some of that mandatory for parents/tutor could make sense, perhaps with banned site/app lists for those devices that parents can't override.

But it's a fairly minimal problem given the tools exist already for decent parents, and terrible parents wouldn't install them anyway to begin with.


by uke_master k

Ya the kids are going to figure out what a vpn is, it’s just pointless culture warrior “family values” BS. As with trans issues, these are issues parents should be working with their kids on, not paternalistic big government

No I don't think you would allow parents to expose 13y old to very extreme bdsm content for hours per day, which is the equivalent of allowing them to decide to give puberty blockers to their kids.

There must be a point where we say *stop* to extremely damaging things.

Ofc that leaves a lot of porn out of the question, same as a parent is (unfortunately for society, but freedom is important) allowed to teach true bullshit to their kids, be it religious Bs or gender theory Bs or Marxism.

You can recover for that even if it leaves emotional scars.

You can't recover from sterility caused by puberty blockers.


Paternalism has a negative connotation which I fully agree with because it's used when the state treats adults as kid and "wants to choose for them". That should be unconstitutional for any adult of sane mind.

When it's about kids someone actually has to be the paternal figure.

When parents fail miserably exposing their children to extreme unwarranted damage, we have a duty to protect them.

The concept of minor abuse exists even for libertarians , it's just about where we put the threshold, what we consider abuse.


by Luciom k

No I don't think you would allow parents to expose 13y old to very extreme bdsm content for hours per day, which is the equivalent of allowing them to decide to give puberty blockers to their kids..

That is....quite the equivalency. Yikes.


by uke_master k

Ya the kids are going to figure out what a vpn is, it’s just pointless culture warrior “family values” BS. As with trans issues, these are issues parents should be working with their kids on, not paternalistic big government

That is quite…. The equivalency. Yikes


Word 2015 is your answer.


by jjjou812 k

Word 2015 is your answer.

Do you gain pleasure out of the constant insults ?


by lozen k

That is quite…. The equivalency. Yikes

Cute, but for that little issue that I didn’t say they were equivalent and Luciom did. Noting the sweeping idea that parents should be responsible for the upbringing of their children and not far right government paternalism isn’t saying every issue parents should take the lead on is equivalent.

Obviously.


by uke_master k

Cute, but for that little issue that I didn’t say they were equivalent and Luciom did. Noting the sweeping idea that parents should be responsible for the upbringing of their children and not far right government paternalism isn’t saying every issue parents should take the lead on is equivalent.

Obviously.

parents should be responsible for the upbringing of their children and not government up to the point the children health isn't irreparably damaged in severe ways by parental choice.

Which is why (i hope) you agree that you can force blood transfusions on minors against parental approval even if they have "religious objections". Which is why severe maltrunition or drug abuse allows the state to intervene and take the children away. And so on.

I know you do agree some parental choices can be egregious enough to justify a rare, circumscribed, state intervention to protect the kids.

You disagree giving puberty blockers to 12y old kids is one such thing, but that's about it.


by Luciom k

parents should be responsible for the upbringing of their children and not government up to the point the children health isn't irreparably damaged in severe ways by parental choice.

Which is why (i hope) you agree that you can force blood transfusions on minors against parental approval even if they have "religious objections". Which is why severe maltrunition or drug abuse allows the state to intervene and take the children away. And so on.

I know you do agree some parental choices can be egregi

I don't think he does. I think he believes its between a parent, doctor and the child and not for politicians to decide


Exactly. Medical standards of care are things that medical doctors should determine. The example of when parents and doctors DISAGREE and courts have to intervene isn't comparable to one where supportive parents and doctors and children all agree on the best standard of care for a particular medical issue, related to trans people or not. But at no point in this does the opinion of pierre poilievre matter. Or you or I for that matter.


by jjjou812 k

Word 2015 is your answer.

I am just trying to give you a ten year old tool to better express your horrendous opinions.


by lozen k

I don't think he does. I think he believes its between a parent, doctor and the child and not for politicians to decide

Ye so he disagrees that giving puberty blockers to 12y old is something society has to stop to protect kids.

He disagrees those drugs are extremely damaging to kids without specific diseases to treat related to puberty.

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