2024 World Series of Poker May 28th to July 17th ***No Spoilers***

So, if you don’t know, no one else knows. A myopic view of your very, very, small world of knowledge.

Yep the one I Ft’ed

That’s why I’m asking! Please enlighten me.

FWIW, I just did a search on Bravo for any casino currently spreading O8 (or a mixed game including O8). Outside of South Point and Orleans in Vegas, I found a total of five -tables- of O8 across the rest of the country (scattered in one casino each in CA, FL, NY, and PA). I realize there may be casinos and games that don’t report on Bravo, but this was basically exactly in line with my expectation.

Give it a rest

I hear what you’re saying and I don’t understand why you’re getting so many hostile responses.

I don’t know if you’re right or wrong but for what it’s worth, what you’re saying seems logical to me but it seems you’re touching a nerve with others for some reason.

I think we are almost entirely in agreement, and I don’t really understand why people are reacting to my posts with such anger.

I think the WSOP is demonstrating that there is still a large potential market for games like O8 (or mixed games) among inexperienced players that the rest of the poker community is not taking advantage of.

Poker home games used to mainly be mixed games! Casual players enjoy these games both because they aren’t going to lose a ton of money quickly at them, and because they aren’t solved and played robotically.

But every poker room besides the WSOP seems to have no interest in cultivating this, because it’s much easier to just appeal to their existing NL base, and the pro NL players have no interest in cultivating them because it would make them less money at least in the short term.

The 2024 WSOP Thread Aka reading NickMPK's general musings on life. Just what we all want.

Damn, man, stop hijacking this thread lol

This thread sucks.

I just posted what I thought was an innocent and genuine question about the WSOP schedule and people just blew up at me for some reason…sorry.

K. So just look at WSOP schedule and dream then

As far as I can tell, short deck is one of the casualties. Nothing on the schedule. WSOP gave it a spin for a year or two. I guess they weren't thrilled with the response.

A dead fad gone the way of slap bracelets and pogs.

Been some discussion of the schedule in the events section. My main take is that I don't love the addition of a third starting flight in the Colossus, Monster Stack, or Milly Maker. They're taking tournaments that are already too much of a winner-takes-all lottery and turning them into an even bigger lottery. It will be awesome for the 9 people in each event who run hotter than the sun and reach the FT, but for most people it's min-cash or bust. You have to laugh at something like the Colossus where you can outlast 12,000 people and win $650 from your $400 buy-in. Seems like a massive waste of time. That's just my opinion though and if WSOP is leaning into the mega field events then they must feel confident that this is what their customers want. I've soured on that type of stuff and will be avoiding those events this year, but that's just one man's opinion.

About PLO8?

I agree with all of this except I think slap bracelets will be making a resurgence.

I think these events appeal to recs who want a lot of "play" for their money and/or want some sort of Main Event experience but can't or won't play the Main, plus some pros who are willing to go through that soul-draining experience for the benefit of playing with all those recs. I'm too lazy to check to compare the rake, but I'd bet that these tournaments blow all the $1,500+ events out of the water on profitability, even accounting for the extra time they take to finish.

The added day ones allowing for up to 6 buyins heavily favor pros who have no issue firing max bullets. Monster stack last year had max 2 bullets.

Literally all of these things have been made up by people WHO WANT TO GAMBLE, mostly recreationals/fun players. The people complaining are almost exclusively "aspiring pros" who dont like to gamble and would like to stick to their charts and nitty ranges.

Certain job players (as opposed to fun players) seem to dislike the idea that fun players create game modes that force the job players out of their comfort zone.

A lot of stops have 8game, HORSE or similar variants. A lot of players play these events. O8 is one of the games in these events.

Just because O8 isnt being spread as a cash game doesnt mean people cant play it.

Yea this is a horrible addition for people who just want to take a shot in a one off tournament. Now you will get a lot of people who are good but with smaller bankroll just targetting this one tournament and max firing.

yes, it was open last year, right along side the WSOP events and games.

but i honestly dont know why. i guess its the money, but from one angle i think having cash games at both WSOP and at the Horseshoe room is a bit overkill. they should all be moved to WSOP, where there usually more than plenty of space. the only exceptions are when some of the bigger field tourneys run their first days alongside some of the daily tournaments, the cash games at WSOP take a backseat in terms of space. hopefully that changes this year, with the addition of the 100 tables they're talking about.

just me, but i would prefer to play my cash games almost exclusively at WSOP because (a) its all in the same place, so less walking (b) there is nothing like the vibe and feel of a massive conference arena with nothing but poker tables going non-stop and (c) i can just keep chips from day to day instead of cashing out and picking up new chips elsewhere.

dont get me wrong, though, i will venture over to bellagio/aria and other rooms from time to time, but just having all the games i could want in one place is one of the major advantages of going to WSOP.

I’ll make this my last post on the topic since clearly this subject has annoyed a lot of people, and I think I’ve already made this point.

But new/inexperienced players are not equivalent to recreational/“fun” players. If you want to bring in new players, you need to focus on making them comfortable. And I think a stereotype has developed that new players will only be “comfortable” playing NLHE, and I don’t think that’s true at all.

FYP

https://www.pokernews.com/news/2024/02/v...

Yes, it was open during the WSOP last year. It's kind of a dingy room in my opinion, but it was open.