Covid-19 Discussion

Covid-19 Discussion

Has the wisdom and courage to realize that the cure has now become worse than the disease. It's time to open up. Stop moving the ball.

Hospital systems have not been overwhelmed.

Ventilators are not in shortage.

Treatments are being developed.

There is no cure or vaccine. This is not going away for four years.

The devastation of the cure:

Suicide rates picking up.
Massive economic devastation which causes depression, anxiety, obesity, again increase in suicide rates and directly impacts poorer economic areas.
Alcohol sales up 51%.
Domestic Abuse on the uprise
Child abuse on the uprise.
Hospitals that do not have COVID related issues are forced to lay off doctors and nurses as there are not enough patients to economically support it, meaning they won't have the staff to deal with COVID outbreaks.
Michael Avenatti gets released from prison

We all did our part. We sheltered (here in Pennsylvania for 5 weeks already).

Open the office buildings. Open the hair saloons. Get rid of stupid mask laws.

Continue to monitor outbreaks and in areas hospital systems become threatened, reenact tougher guidelines.

LET'S GET BACK TO WORK!

And stop shaming people that want common sense solutions. Waiting for a vaccine is stupid and unpractical.

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by pocket_zeros k

Dozens Of Students Go Maskless With Medical Exemption From One Roseville Doctor

Dozens of students are dropping their face masks at school thanks to a medical exemption.

Almost all of them are coming from just one doctor, but the school district says there's nothing it can do about it. Parents and the district now question why so many mask exemptions are coming from one local doctor.

The phone has been ringing off the hook at Dr. Michael Huang's Roseville office.

"We are fully booked up for the next

No proof they were fake exemptions. Therefore he wasn't caught lying as you falsely claimed.


by Brian James k

No proof they were fake exemptions. Therefore he wasn't caught lying as you falsely claimed.

"Without referring to Huang or any specific physician, California Medical Association President Peter N. Bretan, Jr., said in a statement, “It strains credulity to think that a single physician would have dozens or hundreds of patients with valid medical claims for such an exemption. Unfortunately, we know there are bad actors who are willing to operate outside the accepted standards of care in order to turn a personal profit. This needs to stop.”

Source: https://edsource.org/updates/california-...


What a shocker that this is the guy who somehow treated so many "vax injuries".


An honest doctor. Yeah, that is a shocker.


by Brian James k

An honest doctor. Yeah, that is a shocker.

More like a doctor with an agenda.


by pocket_zeros k

More like a doctor with an agenda.

A clear one. Just like the nurse he believed without question.


by Brian James k

Why would I look at more of your pharma funded garbage studies?

I showed the conflict of interest statements on those.

Not surprised you don't want to look though.

It's just qualified people doing the work they're qualified for using actual verified data that was then peer-reviewed and approved. The methods and data used stand unchallenged other than vague assertions such as yours that only exist to desperately handwave away data that clearly and unequivocally demolishes your entire ideology.

So yeah. I get it.

Run. We know why.


by pocket_zeros k

More like a doctor with an agenda.

An agenda to tell the truth. Yeah, it's a pity more doctors don't follow that agenda.


i thought it's been long established that all doctors are nazis


by Brian James k

An agenda to tell the truth. Yeah, it's a pity more doctors don't follow that agenda.

Yep, selling fake patient vouchers and inventing mysterious "vax injuries" is definitely telling truth to wingnuts.


by pocket_zeros k

Yep, selling fake patient vouchers and inventing mysterious "vax injuries" is definitely telling truth to wingnuts.

Neither of which you have shown any proof of. Which means you are lying again. Why do you keep lying dude?


by Brian James k

Neither of which you have shown any proof of. Which means you are lying again. Why do you keep lying dude?

You discussing proof about anything is the funniest thing to hit this thread in a long time. The projection at the end was great too.


by pocket_zeros k

You discussing proof about anything is the funniest thing to hit this thread in a long time. The projection at the end was great too.

So you don't deny that you lied then. Not that you could really as it was pretty blatant.

Rather pathetic attempt at deflection as well by the way.


by Brian James k

So you don't deny that you lied then. Not that you could really as it was pretty blatant.

Rather pathetic attempt at deflection as well by the way.

This doctor issued 85% of the total mask-excemption vouchers of students in his school district, reported a large number of "vax injuries" that no other doctor reports or to anywhere close to that degree, and has publicly stated his agenda against public health policy regarding COVID. You'd have to be a anti-vaxxer wingnut to think the man isn't lying.


He must live in this crazy part of the world that has 1000x the vax injury rate of anywhere else. Sucks to be him.


by pocket_zeros k

This doctor issued 85% of the total mask-excemption vouchers of students in his school district, reported a large number of "vax injuries" that no other doctor reports or to anywhere close to that degree, and has publicly stated his agenda against public health policy regarding COVID. You'd have to be a anti-vaxxer wingnut to think the man isn't lying.

Come on dude. That's not proof and you know it. Just admit that you lied and move on.


by Brian James k

Come on dude. That's not proof and you know it. Just admit that you lied and move on.

You're not familiar with the concept of circumstantial evidence?


by pocket_zeros k

You're not familiar with the concept of circumstantial evidence?

LOL

Aren't you the "Correlation doesn't equal causation" guy? Maybe you should follow your own rules.


by AquaSwing k

He must live in this crazy part of the world that has 1000x the vax injury rate of anywhere else. Sucks to be him.

His patients could have received shots from a bad batch. You never know. There is conjecture that some batches were worse than others as far as adverse effects go.

Another possible factor is that many doctors may not be reporting vax injuries as it could put their careers in jeopardy. Maybe this guy is just one of the brave ones who puts his patients above his career. In which case it would indeed suck to be him.


by Brian James k

LOL

Aren't you the "Correlation doesn't equal causation" guy? Maybe you should follow your own rules.

I guess that means the answer is no, you're not familiar with the concept.


by pocket_zeros k

I guess that means the answer is no, you're not familiar with the concept.

You haven't shown any circumstantial evidence. Just conjecture that maybe the guy is lying because it looks unusual. That's not circumstantial evidence.

Come on man. You are grasping at straws. Let it go and move on.


by Brian James k

You haven't shown any circumstantial evidence. Just conjecture that maybe the guy is lying because it looks unusual. That's not circumstantial evidence.

Come on man. You are grasping at straws. Let it go and move on.

He could provide evidence for his claims. He could publish a paper on his findings. He could do a lot of things besides make a video and Twitter post.

But he didn't. That tells us everything we need to know.


by Brian James k

You haven't shown any circumstantial evidence. Just conjecture that maybe the guy is lying because it looks unusual. That's not circumstantial evidence.

Come on man. You are grasping at straws. Let it go and move on.

Is that your new thing, just keep repeating the same accusation and hope it sticks?

I gave you the circumstantial evidence. He wrote 85% of all the vouchers in a single large school district, where other doctors are on record for refusing to do. His own colleagues said he was selling the vouchers. He's publicly stated that he's against the COVID public health policy regarding masks, the same policy he violated by issuing nearly all the mask exemption vouchers in his school district.

Without referring to Huang or any specific physician, California Medical Association President Peter N. Bretan, Jr., said in a statement, “It strains credulity to think that a single physician would have dozens or hundreds of patients with valid medical claims for such an exemption. Unfortunately, we know there are bad actors who are willing to operate outside the accepted standards of care in order to turn a personal profit. This needs to stop.”

Source: https://edsource.org/updates/california-...

Do you understand what "strains credulity" means? That was from the California Medical Association President. Is he lying too?


That's still not proof dude.

My advice to you is when you are in a hole stop digging.

This is getting boring anyway. Unless you can come up with something better I'm out.


by Brian James k

That's still not proof dude.

My advice to you is when you are in a hole stop digging.

Is you standard for "he's telling the truth" you can't absolutely prove he's not lying?

It doesn't seem to be your standard of proof when the data contradicts your beliefs. Why is it now?

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