Talk About Movies: Part 4

Talk About Movies: Part 4

Somehow threads merged, so here's part 4 of our ongoing movie discussion.

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by MSchu18 k

I had forgotten just how much I am madly in love I am with Inarritu's Birdman.

I always marvel at Bill Camp's soliloquy of tomorrow, and tomorrow, and tomorrow... even if it's a bit to much.

It is awe-inspiring

In essence, these are the questions that are being asked when we compare or view the differences between financially insignificant movies like Perfect Days and something financially overwhelming like Batman.

I think there's a place for Batman, Mission Impossible, and John Wick. I enjoyed these films.

But the movies I remember best hit a nerve. In the last couple years, they have been All of Us Strangers, Aftersun, Perfect Days, and Drive My Car, and Zone of Interest in theaters.

I've seen every Academy Award nominee except American Fiction, but I won't remember Oppenheimer, Poor Things, or The Holdovers for long, and I loved all of these.

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by John Cole k

But the movies I remember best hit a nerve.

I think this is the perfect idiom to describe the movies that have really affected me. And by striking that nerve, they force me to see.


Kinuyo Tanaka movies she directed are on the Criterion Channel this month. They changed the title but The Eternal Breasts is excellent. I love comparing the ending with her last film Love Under the Crucifix.. Same ending but different approach.

The Moon Has Risen is basically a lost Ozu movie. Lost Ozu movies will always be good.

And Sandakan No. 8 is probably on there as well. Watch this after the others because it's later in the 70s and Tanaka (acting in her final film) plays an old retired prostitute so that's a pretty diverse group of movies right there. Tanaka won best actress and I'm sad Komaki Kurihara wasn't in more movies. I still hope to see her in the Russian / Japanese film Melodies of a White Night one day.


by kioshk k

I didn't even try this new one yet, but I think the demands of cultural literary are forcing me to at least watch the first one.

I suspect it's gonna be full of woke bs and wildly overhyped, but maybe I should save all my hate til I actually watch it.

Just started the 2021 one, hahaha I'm an idiot. This is fantastic, wow. I see why people liked it so much now!


by Esteban_1 k

Kinuyo Tanaka movies she directed are on the Criterion Channel this month. They changed the title but The Eternal Breasts is excellent. I love comparing the ending with her last film Love Under the Crucifix.. Same ending but different approach.

The Moon Has Risen is basically a lost Ozu movie. Lost Ozu movies will always be good.

And Sandakan No. 8 is probably on there as well. Watch this after the others because it's later in the 70s and Tanaka (acting in her final film) plays an old retired pros

This is exciting news. I knew who Kinuyo Tanaka but had no idea that she had directed. Also, I have never seen Sandakan #8 and didn't think it was available.


by John Cole k

But the movies I remember best hit a nerve.

THIS, is a truism for nearly everything... be especially so with Film.

This idea is the reason I rarely watch movies that 'make money'... Never say never, but rarely.

And things that used to guide me as a young man, have LONG fallen under the guillotine of time and no longer hold any curiosities for me as a Old Man.


Idle question: how would you go about recommending Perfect Days to someone who isn't into arts house films? I can imagine friends' eyes glazing over the moment I say "toilet cleaner". It'd be like when I tried to persuade people to watch Friday Night Lights without using the words 'American Football'.


I tend to tell people the surface story is not as important as the human emotions that we can all relate to.


by Rooksx k

Idle question: how would you go about recommending Perfect Days to someone who isn't into arts house films? I can imagine friends' eyes glazing over the moment I say "toilet cleaner". It'd be like when I tried to persuade people to watch Friday Night Lights without using the words 'American Football'.

tell them about how it shows our cultural differences the beauty in subtle happiness and content . the scenes showing the different parts of Tokyo is also superb ,and realizing it's ok to be happy with simple things is a good lesson .



by Rooksx k

Idle question: how would you go about recommending Perfect Days to someone who isn't into arts house films? I can imagine friends' eyes glazing over the moment I say "toilet cleaner". It'd be like when I tried to persuade people to watch Friday Night Lights without using the words 'American Football'.

Don't recommend. Drag them. I told my colleague we are going in a couple weeks. She's not a fan of art house films, but I think my enthusiasm convinced her. She has already sent me an Outlook invitation as a reminder.

(I suspect, though, she only wants me to buy her dinner later )

Seriously, some people can be convinced by your enthusiasm.

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You can't force someone to like a movie. There are plenty of movies I love that I still wouldn''t recommend to most people because I know it's just not their bag.


by D1iabol1cal k

You can't force someone to like a movie. There are plenty of movies I love that I still wouldn''t recommend to most people because I know it's just not their bag.

Because I teach film, I have the opportunity to expose students to movies most of them haven't seen. Almost to a person, they loved City Lights. They moaned when I told them they were about to watch a B&W silent film. When it was over, they began clapping.

I know most would rather be watching Batman or some Marvel film, but they surprise themselves when they discover that something they shouldn't like pleases them.

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by Dominic k

After the harrowing The Zone Of Interest, I needed a holocaust film that would make me feel better about being a human, so tonight I watched One Life, the story of Sir Nicholas Winton.

Winton was an English stockbroker in 1938 who went to Prague for a week to see if he could help with the desperate Czech refugee crisis from the Eastern part of the country due to Hitler's invasion.. He ended up creating a British children's refugee organization that saved 660~ mostly Jewish children from almost c

that's so awesome.

by Dominic k

Poor Things was....different.

Great performances, incredible set design and make-up...but ultimately ugly. A man puts a baby brain into a woman and she becomes a sex pot for many men? That's....sick.

I get the whole point the movie is making, but this was not very entertaining for me. There were some good laughs. Was surprised Emma Stone showed so much skin. Bold choice for an actor of her stature.

In the end, I appreciate it but did not like.

I don't necessarily think it was that she was a sex pot for any man but that she lost all inhibitions and wasn't at all restrained by social morays and taboos and just reverted to a pure state of nature and embraced any urges she felt

what really struck me was that it was the first time since watching an actual Kubrick film that I really felt like I was watching a Kubrick film.

the look and style of the film was really fantastic imo.
I also found the film extremely funny.


It was funny...but I just think men making movies about a woman with a baby brain who just wants uninhibited sex all the time is somewhat problematic.

But I appreciated the project.


by golddog k

Last night Lincoln came on TCM. Today, my school was playing on ESPN2, and turned over to TCM during the breaks to watch a few minutes here & there of Gandhi.

Both great films. Both shocking to me (with the perspective of history, of course) that the issues being discussed even needed to be.

Don't want to start a derail, but got me to thinking about social issues of today that people will look back on two or three generations and think, "WTF, how was that even an issue?"

Love Gandhi. Daniel Day Lewis had a small role

Future generations will scarce believe that such a one as this did in flesh and blood walk upon this Earth


[QUOTE=John Cole;58487659]I know most would rather be watching Batman or some Marvel film, but they surprise themselves when they discover that something they shouldn't like pleases them. /QUOTE]

This is the thing. So many won't even try to watch something outside of the mainstream, automatically writing it off as boring. Yet they might find they enjoy it if they'd just give themselves the opportunity.


by Schlitz mmmm k

Love Gandhi. Daniel Day Lewis had a small role

Future generations will scarce believe that such a one as this did in flesh and blood walk upon this Earth

I agree. Sometimes I wonder if history is still taught in the schools when people don't grasp the enormity of his accomplishments.


by Dominic k

The Zone Of Interest, Johnathan Glazer.

Glazer is one of those filmmakers who disappears for year and then shows up with a stunning masterpiece.

The Zone Of Interest is about the banality of evil to its logical conclusion. How true horror can be happening only feet away and yet be ignored by those doing the evil.

This is a masterwork of filmmaking and a movie I never want to see again.

Another "Agree" about not seeing this again. Saw it last night. Extremely precise production with regard to costumes and sets and mannerisms of the time and the place. Well done but don't need that.

Basically the filmmaker found a new way to make me throw up at the movies, this time without showing gore or violence.


I dunno what will or should win Oscars this year except for Best Actress should be Sandra Hüller for great performances in two nominated movies.


i liked zone of interested but it was a little too on the nose for me

could have done without sounds of gunfire in the background nonstop - which frankly was not the norm

they were brought in, those who could work were put to work, those who couldn't were immediately gassed - there would have been shooting occasionally but it would not have been constant

the ovens running 24/7 were enough of a reminder


by John Cole k

Anybody see Once Upon a Time in Anatolia this weekend?

Just kidding. I meant "ever"?

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Great that you brought this up. I've actually seen this a few years ago. It was excellent, especially the use of lighting. Just the opening scenes of the caravan of law officials searching for a dead body in the Turkish countryside at night were wonderful. Another memorable scene is also at night in a small village indoors where a group of men light up an area in a dark room and spot somebody (I'm a little vague on the details). Beautiful. Moral of the story I think: People are sometimes better off believing a fiction than they are learning the truth.

Recommended . Was on Amazon Prime,mubi, Kanopy ,apple at one time


Mad Max Fury Road: Black & Chrome Edition

Finally saw this version...just astounding in every way. Watching Fury Road in black & white is like watching a different movie. Too beautiful for words. I got to really study the compositions this way, and I'm even more impressed with this movie now. And I thought it was a masterpiece before.

The world-building, the scant dialog that gives you just enough of their religion and culture and insanity...legless men slithering through the dirt like snakes, while others on stilts walk through sour mud...mothers' milk and war pups and bullet farmers and guzzoline...

I love how the 5 wives are given their own, distinct personalities and aren't just throwaway sex slaves. On rewatch, Charlize Theron give her best performance ever. She and Tom Hardy, when on screen together, are the ultimate movie stars. Nicholas Hoult as Nux holds the film together throughout with his growth from War Boy yearning for Valhalla to realizing he's just perfectly fine as a human. His Larry and Barry also shine, of course.

Mad Max Fury Road, in any version, is this century's preeminent fairy tale. And while I still can't figure out how the Vulvalini have survived that deep in the desert (how do they gas their motorcycles?), George Miller's epic is still perfect in just about every way.

I love this movie so much.



by Pokerlogist k

Great that you brought this up. I've actually seen this a few years ago. It was excellent, especially the use of lighting. Just the opening scenes of the caravan of law officials searching for a dead body in the Turkish countryside at night were wonderful. Another memorable scene is also at night in a small village indoors where a group of men light up an area in a dark room and spot somebody (I'm a little vague on the details). Beautiful. Moral of the story I think: People are sometimes bette

It is on Kanopy as are at least one more film I have seen by him.

I guess we even believe the stories we make up about ourselves. At least this is true for one character.

I love the scenes where the mayor's daughter appears bearing tea like an angel.

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by Phat Mack k

I agree. Sometimes I wonder if history is still taught in the schools when people don't grasp the enormity of his accomplishments.

Supposedly he - at one time or another - said some shiit to someone or another.. maybe it was before his maturation/ more inspired other true self

And needed not that any should testify of man


Just saw Casablanca in a theater

was first time seeing the film

it was good, but don't think it'd be a top 10 film if it came out in the past decade

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