2024 NFL Off-season Thread
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I’m way more shocked the pats got (technically) more for mac than the bears got
Lol Bears
So wtf is the Steelers plan here
Pick up the option, let Russ take enough snaps for it to not be a 4 and blindly give fields the reins next year?
I think that’s exactly how the year begins. Whether it ends that way is another debate.
Was feeling bad for Rudolph just now. He beat me for some money, I think I had seahawks. Arm strentgh was impressive. Anway felt bad, googled him, he is already on Tenn. Didn't know.
So wtf is the Steelers plan here
Pick up the option, let Russ take enough snaps for it to not be a 4 and blindly give fields the reins next year?
Picking up the option without having him start this season would be crazy. If they only find out if he's any good during his 5YO season he hits FA right after. In theory they could tag him at that point but the odds of him being good enough to warrant a tag that's probably >$40mil in 2025 are extremely small.
So wtf is the Steelers plan here
Pick up the option, let Russ take enough snaps for it to not be a 4 and blindly give fields the reins next year?
I mean they literally got these two QBs for free basically, so there really is no downside. Although Fields as the backup is ridiculous. Russ is a good backup cause he cost them $1m which is way cheaper than all the shitty backups.
Plan should be let Fields start and if he sucks go to Russ.
Lol Bears, by the way. What a horrendous trade. Just hold on to him.
Bears doing what they do best. Steelers got more for Pickett (2024 3rd + 2025 7th x2, and surrendering a 2024 4th) than Bears with Fields (likely a 2025 6th).
Steelers in a no lose situation now. They have Russell dirt cheap, and they are on the hook for $3M in 2024 with Fields, and can sign him to a good backup deal if they so choose, as Fields apparently has zero bargaining power. Steelers are also filling up their roster with FAs. I see them no worse than a 9 win team, maybe 10 or 11 given a few breaks.
Bears played this all wrong. They could have taken the low risk option and built a stockpile of 1s and 2s, and keep Fields for 2024 without extending his option. If Bears made the 2024 post season Bears would be able to sign him back for his true value. If they played bad they let Fields go but with a solid core and another high draft pick for 2025.
2024 post season odds for Bears: +250
Bears played this all wrong. They could have taken the low risk option and built a stockpile of 1s and 2s, and keep Fields for 2024 without extending his option. If Bears made the 2024 post season Bears would be able to sign him back for his true value. If they played bad they let Fields go but with a solid core and another high draft pick for 2025.
That's not a low risk option. There's a good chance that Caleb is very good, Fields sucks and there's no one in the 2025 QB draft class that would have been among the top5 QBs in 2024.
There's also a good chance that if Caleb sucks in year two they pick super early again in 2026 and can get a better QB than they could have gotten in 2025.
Drafting Caleb might be a mistake. Not drafting him might be an even bigger mistake. Both options carry serious risk.
Disagree there. Risking your entire season (actually 3+ seasons) on one player is much higher risk than building a core of solid high picks, which could have been obtained from dealing the #1.
Sure, Caleb could be great year 1. But looking at recent high picks and all the media hype surrounding them that does not appear likely.
Just this year there are 4 QBs that can be labeled "generational". Caleb had a disastrous 2023 compared to his 2022 season. That is not a good look.
If Caleb sucks year 1 then it's Justin Fields all over again, but this time with higher level talent surrounding him. Bears will obviously not walk away from Caleb until maybe 2.5 seasons are in and he is either a complete bust or injured beyond recovery.
I don't see how building a solid core and going with a guy who never has had an opportunity to play with guys at this talent level can be considered more risky. They could get a pick by dealing some of the stockpile they would have built up, again low risk.
What if Fields is a problem. Like maybe he doesn't watch tape like murry. Nobody really wanted him. Must be a reason. Bears prolly no choice but take a 6th round and move on. New day.
I think that’s exactly how the year begins. Whether it ends that way is another debate.
Well, I’m now upgrading my fearless prediction
I give a Full Feel Wrath Guarantee that if Wilson starts more than half the games,
Tomlin will be out as coach at the end of the year
That’s two FFWGs in a week.
What if Fields is a problem. Like maybe he doesn't watch tape like murry. Nobody really wanted him. Must be a reason. Bears prolly no choice but take a 6th round and move on. New day.
Yeah, I don't know what's going on behind the scenes. Seems to me he played to win, was not sharp on his throws, got little help from his WRs /O-line/routes but is a very gifted talent who can extend plays and has tremendous upside given sufficient play calling/surrounding talent.
I recall a few posters here thinking back in '22 a straight trade Lamar for Fields would be a no-brainer for the Ravens. Has Fields regressed that much that he can no longer play? Obviously not.
And a big LOL to anybody who believes Fields walks in and starts for PIT and thinks Bears should have drafted Caleb.
I just don’t see what the stealers get out of this trade at all. Either you’re picking up the 5yo which blindly is a terrible move or you’re going to be making a judgement on fields based on either a small sample size that keeps him as a 6th round comp or a slightly more than a small sample size that makes him a 4th round comp but in either case is not nearly enough reps to give him a long term deal
Your best case scenario is Russ welds you extend him and fields never even sees the field in which case what was even the point of this exercise other than unnecessary temptation
I guess there is a realistic chance fields wins this job out of the gate. Let’s not forget russ sucks
Disagree there. Risking your entire season (actually 3+ seasons) on one player is much higher risk than building a core of solid high picks, which could have been obtained from dealing the #1.
Almost everyone in the NFL thinks Fields sucks. If that wasn't clear before it is now after he was traded for a 6th rounder.
I'm not even claiming to know which option has higher risk, but I know that sticking with Fields would in no way be classified as "low risk". Especially since keeping him most likely would have meant picking up his 5YO which in Fields case carries a risk of roughly $25.6mil against the 2025 cap. Not picking up the 5th year option would carry the risk of losing him in FA next season.
We know what teams are most likely to get to the Super Bowl:
1. Teams with Patrick Mahomes
2. Teams with a QB on a rookie contract
Starting in 2025 Justin Fields is none of those two options. His successor in Chicago is (at least) one of the two for 4 years.
Forget Fields...I know what will shock you Srm. The milfhunter on your roster, plus you give a 6th for it to happen. My lolmachine crystal ball says "Yes" Half his contract needs to be paid by Joe D, he is suprisingly expensive. No worries friend. It'll get taken care of.
Almost everyone in the NFL thinks Fields sucks. If that wasn't clear before it is now after he was traded for a 6th rounder.
I'm not even claiming to know which option has higher risk, but I know that sticking with Fields would in no way be classified as "low risk". Especially since keeping him most likely would have meant picking up his 5YO which in Fields case carries a risk of roughly $25.6mil against the 2025 cap. Not picking up the 5th year option would carry the risk of losing him in FA ne
FWIW PIT has better 2024 SB win chances than Bears, even if Russell gets hurt. Bears could have let him go or re sign him in 2025 based on 2024.
I just don’t see what the stealers get out of this trade at all. Either you’re picking up the 5yo which blindly is a terrible move or you’re going to be making a judgement on fields based on either a small sample size that keeps him as a 6th round comp or a slightly more than a small sample size that makes him a 4th round comp but in either case is not nearly enough reps to give him a long term deal
Your best case scenario is Russ welds you extend him and fields never even sees the field in which
But at this cost it doesn’t matter. It’s a brilliant trade for the Stealers. The worst thing that can happen is Fields plays really well and they end up having to franchise/pay him because he’s a franchise QB
Zach going to the 9ers would be the ultimate test of Shanahan's system (if Purdy was injured)
Disagree there. Risking your entire season (actually 3+ seasons) on one player is much higher risk than building a core of solid high picks, which could have been obtained from dealing the #1.
Sure, Caleb could be great year 1. But looking at recent high picks and all the media hype surrounding them that does not appear likely.
Just this year there are 4 QBs that can be labeled "generational". Caleb had a disastrous 2023 compared to his 2022 season. That is not a good look.
If Caleb sucks year 1 t
Fields is ass and everybody knows it, you have to take a shot. A solid core won't make Fields suddenly good
