Biggest loser in online poker history wants to grind $16k

Biggest loser in online poker history wants to grind $16k

I start this with some pictures:

nl2 -$8792.18 -82 buy ins below EV


nl5 (notice that pt4 shows party poker nl5 as nl4) -$5943.81


nl10 -$773.92 -15 buy ins below EV


Total loss -$15509.91


This is me playing nl2, nl5 and nl10 on party poker for one year.

My history begins somewhere in same period when they started to show WSOP shows in television. I think I have played 12-13 years nows mainly NL2, some amount of NL5 and little bit of NL10 what is the biggest stake i've ever played.

I've read all Sklansky, all Harrington, all Miller, watched huge amount of videos, bought trackers and calculators.

Still after those years and after that all I've lost huge amount of money on those stakes. I try to play my best but losing to huge suckouts like 95/5 favorite makes me really upset.

I've lost literally all my money including all my life savings to online poker. I want to try one last time to win those money back and little bit of extra. That's why $16k. What I need is support and guiding.

I had thread on micro forum but they deleted it just when people start to understand that this is real situation and not fake.

And if you wonder where that biggest loser comes from it was said by guy who has been playing for living many years. He said I'm the biggest loser in history counted as lost buy ins.

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18 March 2019 at 01:30 PM
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by Paisting k

What you talk about 1 outtered? That massive whale had nothing on that flop. Shitted pants and site give him my money.

Oh it wasn't a 1 outter, that's what came to my mind when you wrote 98% equity loss. Brutal beat man.


the only difference between losing when having 98% on the flop vs having ~98% with set over set on the turn, is that you should be much happier losing the 98% on the flop. if villain is willing to go all-in with no hand and virtually drawing dead, you should thank your lucky stars that you're playing such a bad opponent. every time someone goes all-in in this situation you should be jumping with joy, not begin shoving any two cards for a couple of hours due to tilt.

to state the obvious: you're thinking about poker in the wrong way.


by MastaAces k

the only difference between losing when having 98% on the flop vs having ~98% with set over set on the turn, is that you should be much happier losing the 98% on the flop. if villain is willing to go all-in with no hand and virtually drawing dead, you should thank your lucky stars that you're playing such a bad opponent. every time someone goes all-in in this situation you should be jumping with joy, not begin shoving any two cards for a couple of hours due to tilt.

to state the obvious: you're t

Are you first who finally starts to understand what's going on? I put them to play bad. I find myself many times in session where my equity is massive. But losing them all.


by Paisting k

Best way to know what kind of players there are is to sit down 888 nl10 or nl5 snap tables and play couple of rounds. You're gonna find out very soon what kind of whales there are. You find lots of small betting against multiple players, therefore family pots with 3-4 players on flop. High steal frequency from late combined with high call to reraise. Also limp callers call on every flop and every turn if you won't bet all in on flop or turn. Like they limp and I put 7x raise in, got call and the


Long term you are losing money because of making massive errors like literally every decision point this hand.
Pre,flop and turn are all massive mistakes costing you a ton of money.

If you had an IQ over 50 you'd start working on the things like this which YOU CAN CONTROL.


Unfortunately you are seriously mentally challenged, this thread has been running 5 years and you have learnt 0.

I would seriously get yourself tested for intellectual disability.


by herbalerv k

Long term you are losing money because of making massive errors like literally every decision point this hand.
Pre,flop and turn are all massive mistakes costing you a ton of money.

If we forget (and you did) one of the oldest Skalansky theorems that what happened earlier is not relevant anymore when you go all in with best equity.

Check again that hand. 97% equity against guy with aces. In those games and against those whales betting smaller on turn is massive error and losing money because they passive call call. On turn they call always shove.


I mean even if that is true , it sounds like you are misunderstanding/misapplying it.


Your EV line has never been above 0 for a single month of the 5 years you've posted here, why not share/analyse the hands where you get it in as an underdog to see if you can improve your play in any of those?


Lifetime graphs?


by OFA k

Lifetime graphs?

Lots of destroyed with old computer. There was Party Poker, Everest Poker and Europoker. Europoker was hoax site part of Ongame network that took my money what was on account when they closed down. I try to get those money many years but they all disappeared. Just like Everest.


by Paisting k

Lots of destroyed with old computer. There was Party Poker, Everest Poker and Europoker. Europoker was hoax site part of Ongame network that took my money what was on account when they closed down. I try to get those money many years but they all disappeared. Just like Everest.

Can you post the graphs since starting this thread?

Also, how old are you? What sort of career do you have?


professional poker player duh


really disaster?


March was the biggest suckouted month in long time and maybe the worst if we look how much 90%+ equity hands I lost on player pool with all whales and zero good player.

4x 90%+ equity loss (97%, 95%, 94%, 91%)
4x 80%-90% equity loss
7x 70-80% equity loss
6x 65-70% equity loss


I exploit them, run them over. They bet small, I bet big and put them call with worst. Still I lose. When there is session with no suckouts I take their money in 15 minutes. Bet bet and whale deposits more.

Even tough this is suspicious more and more there's another thing. How is it possible that when worst of the worst are playing on 888 as you can see how that call with absolute bullshit there's only 20-30 players on pool. The maximum on weekends are like 50 but never like 100. When you go to GG there is 500 players almost everytime on pool. 500 nits playing against each other more preferably than playing on 888 against these total whales.


888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players

dollariul (UTG): $15.65 (157 bb)
Elimc (MP): $22.73 (227 bb)
Paisting (CO): $10.00 (100 bb)
Sparvinho (BU): $10.00 (100 bb)
ExtraGroot (SB): $14.18 (142 bb)
Derm47 (BB): $4.00 (40 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is CO with Q K
2 players fold, Paisting (CO) raises to $0.40, 2 players fold, Derm47 (BB) calls $0.30

Flop: ($0.85) J 8 K (2 players)
Derm47 (BB) bets $0.42, Paisting (CO) raises to $1.68, Derm47 (BB) raises to $3.60 (all-in), Paisting (CO) calls $1.92

Turn: ($8.05) A (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($8.05) 4 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $8.05 (Rake: $0.45)

Showdown:
Derm47 (BB) shows A 6 (a pair of Aces)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 56%, Flop: 6%, Turn: 61%, River: 100%)

Paisting (CO) shows Q K (a pair of Kings)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 44%, Flop: 94%, Turn: 39%, River: 0%)

Derm47 (BB) wins $7.60

888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 4 players

dodeer (UTG): $10.00 (100 bb)
Paisting (BU): $10.35 (104 bb)
kox44x (SB): $27.34 (273 bb)
Eddy_114 (BB): $9.45 (95 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is BTN with T Q
dodeer (UTG) raises to $0.25, Paisting (BU) 3-bets to $1.40, 1 fold, Eddy_114 (BB) calls $1.30, 1 fold

Flop: ($3.10) J A J (2 players)
Eddy_114 (BB) checks, Paisting (BU) bets $2.32, Eddy_114 (BB) calls $2.32

Turn: ($7.74) 5 (2 players)
Eddy_114 (BB) checks, Paisting (BU) bets $6.63 (all-in), Eddy_114 (BB) calls $5.73 (all-in)

River: ($19.20) A (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $19.20 (Rake: $1.08)

Showdown:
Paisting (BU) shows T Q (a flush, Ace high)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 45%, Flop: 42%, Turn: 91%, River: 0%)

Eddy_114 (BB) shows A 8 (a full house, Aces full of Jacks)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 55%, Flop: 58%, Turn: 9%, River: 100%)

Eddy_114 (BB) wins $18.12

888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 3 players

kox44x (BU): $10.05 (101 bb)
Paisting (SB): $9.60 (96 bb)
Kras1975 (BB): $15.43 (154 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is SB with J K
1 fold, Paisting (SB) raises to $0.40, Kras1975 (BB) calls $0.30

Flop: ($0.80) T 4 6 (2 players)
Paisting (SB) bets $0.60, Kras1975 (BB) calls $0.60

Turn: ($2) J (2 players)
Paisting (SB) bets $8.60 (all-in), Kras1975 (BB) calls $8.60

River: ($19.20) 8 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $19.20 (Rake: $0.96)

Showdown:
Paisting (SB) shows J K (a pair of Jacks)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 66%, Flop: 26%, Turn: 89%, River: 0%)

Kras1975 (BB) shows T 8 (two pair, Tens and Eights)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 34%, Flop: 74%, Turn: 11%, River: 100%)

Kras1975 (BB) wins $18.24


by Paisting k

Bet bet and whale deposits more.

Yes, you do.


by Paisting k

4x 90%+ equity loss (97%, 95%, 94%, 91%)
4x 80%-90% equity loss
7x 70-80% equity loss
6x 65-70% equity loss

21 bad beats in 13292 hands. Only once in 628 hands you are unlucky.

What a lucky fish you are, unbelievable. I hope I will be this lucky the next month.


Sad that the only good thing you had going on : I will not play higher than NL2 is a thing in the past. You sir truly are the biggest idiot in the history of this game.


First hand is funny, the rest is printing against you.


by heat555 k

First hand is funny, the rest is printing against you.

Do you understand equities? Do you understand and see how I make those whales call turns? Do you understand how rare these amounts of suckouts are? I think you definitely don’t.


by ImePaskaa k

Sad that the only good thing you had going on : I will not play higher than NL2 is a thing in the past. You sir truly are the biggest idiot in the history of this game.

To be fair he seems to losing less at 10nl. There's no runs were he just literally punts 100 buyins going all in ever single hand. Now he seems to just be losing through regular, normal bad play.


by dogarse k

To be fair he seems to losing less at 10nl. There's no runs were he just literally punts 100 buyins going all in ever single hand. Now he seems to just be losing through regular, normal bad play.


True, but that's because he can't afford such a high loss rate on all limits higher than 10NL. If he could afford it, he would be sinking at least 10k USD every month and I am not even kidding.


. When you go to GG there is 500 players almost everytime on pool. 500 nits playing against each other more preferably than playing on 888 against these total whales.

Very inaccurate assessment of GGPoker's player pool for Rush & Cash microstakes games. I typically play 25nl+ but sometimes I will hop on a few 10nl tables. GG's games are 'lively' to say the least. Makes me wonder if you actually played on there or if it's just your odd perception.

fwiw, I'll also jump on some 10nl tables at 888 just in hopes of seeing you on there (&/or Easty) and will purposefully make some questionable preflop plays in hopes of sucking out on you, knowing how much you'll be tilting. Yah I know it's kinda shallow but so far I think it might even be +ev vs. you but if it's not, it's +ev for 'entertainment value'.c

PS - I went looking for you the past few days but was disappointed when I couldn't find you on there. :(


by Paisting k

Do you understand equities? Do you understand and see how I make those whales call turns? Do you understand how rare these amounts of suckouts are? I think you definitely don’t.

Paisting, you're (probably) not talking to your gambling addict uncle, or whoever doesn't have a clue about equities.

You might not know this after 10 years of using tracking softwares, but it's clearly visible on your graphs what you are up to. You lost like 100 stacks with ~zero equity, that is your issue, that's the culprit of your horrible lossrate.

You were probably unlucky on the 30 times you somehow had the best hand, but you - as always - buried yourself with running 0 equity hands for 100s of big blinds.


by dogarse k

To be fair he seems to losing less at 10nl. There's no runs were he just literally punts 100 buyins going all in ever single hand. Now he seems to just be losing through regular, normal bad play.

Do you understand you are mentally ill?


by Poker_Orifice k


PS - I went looking for you the past few days but was disappointed when I couldn't find you on there. :(

Welfare payments in Finland are made 7th day of each month. This month it’s Sunday so they will be paid already on Friday.

Best of luck!


too bad you've ran under EV, otherwise the month would be excellent!


by Paisting k

March was the biggest suckouted month in long time and maybe the worst if we look how much 90%+ equity hands I lost on player pool with all whales and zero good player.

4x 90%+ equity loss (97%, 95%, 94%, 91%)
4x 80%-90% equity loss
7x 70-80% equity loss
6x 65-70% equity loss

Your EV is -60/100 or sth and thats what you care about?

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