Covid-19 Discussion
Has the wisdom and courage to realize that the cure has now become worse than the disease. It's time to open up. Stop moving the ball.
Hospital systems have not been overwhelmed.
Ventilators are not in shortage.
Treatments are being developed.
There is no cure or vaccine. This is not going away for four years.
The devastation of the cure:
Suicide rates picking up.
Massive economic devastation which causes depression, anxiety, obesity, again increase in suicide rates and directly impacts poorer economic areas.
Alcohol sales up 51%.
Domestic Abuse on the uprise
Child abuse on the uprise.
Hospitals that do not have COVID related issues are forced to lay off doctors and nurses as there are not enough patients to economically support it, meaning they won't have the staff to deal with COVID outbreaks.
Michael Avenatti gets released from prison
We all did our part. We sheltered (here in Pennsylvania for 5 weeks already).
Open the office buildings. Open the hair saloons. Get rid of stupid mask laws.
Continue to monitor outbreaks and in areas hospital systems become threatened, reenact tougher guidelines.
LET'S GET BACK TO WORK!
And stop shaming people that want common sense solutions. Waiting for a vaccine is stupid and unpractical.
For the portion of health outcomes that depend on you choices and actions, we can really say better and worse people (wrt health).
In a normal society that would stay a private outcome, a private problem.
It's only when fascist logics about civil responsibility for other people health (????) become the law that you then have to underline the moral aberration
For the portion of health outcomes that depend on you choices and actions, we can really say better and worse people (wrt health).
In a normal society that would stay a private outcome, a private problem.
It's only when fascist logics about civil responsibility for other people health (????) become the law that you then have to underline the moral aberration
I've seen what I need to see here, thanks.
other people health (???)
Lol amazing
For the portion of health outcomes that depend on you choices and actions, we can surely say better/worse people !
Or we deny personal responsibility in full, people can eat with 5x the normal salt amount or smoke 3 packs a day and then I have to stay at home because they risk too much from respiratory diseases?
95% of fascist politics is finding people to bully. What about smokers? We can be *******s to them, right? Fat people? The elderly?
The other 5% is graphic design. It's all preschool activities for grownups, really.
For the portion of health outcomes that depend on you choices and actions, we can really say better and worse people (wrt health).
In a normal society that would stay a private outcome, a private problem.
It's only when fascist logics about civil responsibility for other people health (????) become the law that you then have to underline the moral aberration
Except the "private problems" you describe, ie risk factors people can control, represented only a fraction of the risk factor associated with serious COVID-19 and death. They're not the ones that caused you to "have to stay home"
For the portion of health outcomes that depend on you choices and actions, we can surely say better/worse people !
Or we deny personal responsibility in full, people can eat with 5x the normal salt amount or smoke 3 packs a day and then I have to stay at home because they risk too much from respiratory diseases?
Please do keep digging. I never understood what was making Luciom say all the things he's been saying. It has never made even a little sense to me. I get it now. This and his complete lack of empathy for "other people health?????" makes total sense now.
I guess my mind just refuses to believe people like that actually exist. It's so obvious now.
95% of fascist politics is finding people to bully. What about smokers? We can be *******s to them, right? Fat people? The elderly?
The other 5% is graphic design. It's all preschool activities for grownups, really.
they bullied the unvaccinated, didnt they?
Smokers get bullied though taxes now. Tax the fat equally.
They were clogging up ICUs and putting others at risk from their high utilization of healthcare resources. 90% of ICU admissions during Delta were unvaccinated even though the unvaccinated represented a minority of the population at the time (approximately 40%).
They were clogging up ICUs and putting others at risk from their high utilization of healthcare resources. 90% of ICU admissions during Delta were unvaccinated even though the unvaccinated represented a minority of the population at the time (approximately 40%).
thats a bad argument imo.
they let them die bc they went for a vaccine only approach.
that was a big f up. they didnt even treat them, there was almost no protocol. just forced everyone to take a vaccine thats never been tested properly. not only didnt they treat them properly, they didnt treat anyone else properly either. cancer patients i.e. wouldnt even get treated and died.
You are unqualified so your opinion doesn't matter.
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not only didnt they treat them properly, they didnt treat anyone else properly either. cancer patients i.e. wouldnt even get treated and died.
Other ailments went untreated precisely because unvaccinated people were clogging up the medical system.
We are not as uneducated and misinformed as you are.
Thank you for the perfect demonstration of why your opinion is irrelevant. It's honestly impressive how much demonstrably incorrect you crammed into such a short post.
95% of fascist politics is finding people to bully. What about smokers? We can be *******s to them, right? Fat people? The elderly?
The other 5% is graphic design. It's all preschool activities for grownups, really.
Yes we need to bully smokers. It's an absolutely disgusting habit.
We'd probably save hundreds of billions a year globally if smokers and obese people made better decisions.
Ultimately we all pay for it sadly.
You guys over at unstuck have a thread celebrating people dying off that you don't like.
There are reddit forums that were celebrating unvaccinated people dying off. I would bet 100% of those people celebrating the deaths are from the left.
Yes we need to bully smokers. It's an absolutely disgusting habit.
We'd probably save hundreds of billions a year globally if smokers and obese people made better decisions.
Ultimately we all pay for it sadly.
These are the same people that can't be bothered to be concerned with "other people health?????"
These are the same people that can't be bothered to be concerned with "other people health?????"
Smoking is one of the worst things that ever happened to humanity.
You might think otherwise but I promote activities that throw smoking further towards the margins.
Higher taxes, more restrictions where they can smoke, etc etc. Hopefully one day a full ban for anyone under 21.
You need to dig deep down and ask why you would make up lies. If you are frustrated with me, put me on ignore.
I didn't make up lies. Like I told you, I probably just lumped you in with the 20 or so other clones of you I've seen online lately that are way out of their league saying the same crap you are saying.
I know it's your wet dream that I am frustrated with you and will put you on ignore, but you are so little effort to deal with it's not going to happen.
Don't flatter yourself.
Smoking is one of the worst things that ever happened to humanity.
You might think otherwise but I promote activities that throw smoking further towards the margins.
Higher taxes, more restrictions where they can smoke, etc etc. Hopefully one day a full ban for anyone under 21.
I think you might have misread my post. It certainly didn't say please give me more excuses to only care about other people's health when it personally affects your pocketbook.
I didn't make up lies. Like I told you, I probably just lumped you in with the 20 or so other clones of you I've seen online lately that are way out of their league saying the same crap you are saying.
I know it's your wet dream that I am frustrated with you and will put you on ignore, but you are so little effort to deal with it's not going to happen.
Don't flatter yourself.
Very odd since you said you read my posts showing exculpatory evidence and made those comments anyway.
And now its just you were a bit confused... lol ok.
Your attitude toward other people is disgusting but somehow we're all not allowed to throw rotten fruit at you in public so maybe stop being a dick to smokers.
You can be a dick all you want. That has been your status quo on these forums since the beginning and have been banned multiple times for it. I have been a gigantic dick to others like Monterey so go ahead and be a dick to me.
Now if you want to lie about me I will call you out.
I haven't seen you make up lies yet but we'll see.
thats a bad argument imo.
they let them die bc they went for a vaccine only approach.
that was a big f up. they didnt even treat them, there was almost no protocol. just forced everyone to take a vaccine thats never been tested properly. not only didnt they treat them properly, they didnt treat anyone else properly either. cancer patients i.e. wouldnt even get treated and died.
None of this is accurate.
Hmmm.. I wonder what happened in early 2021 that didn't happen in 2020.
