Israel/Palestine thread
Think this merits its own thread...
Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..
AM YISRAEL CHAI.
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Alright. U can handle it. But he's trying to piss you off right?
I mean u guys get this, right?
I dunno. You mean he's fighting on the internet? Yeah, I get that. You mean he's a complete troll and doesn't believe what he's saying? Maybe, but at least at this point it seems more likely to me that he believes what he says.
Kinda seems like welcoming the raving bloodthirsty fascist onto the team was a mistake for Team IDF here.
You've just described the Genocide Society perfectly.
Sure because your ethnicity is a belief (?????).
Are you on drugs?
UK just stripped a citizen of citizenship because she went to fight for islamic terrorists.
Shamima Begum.
That wasn't considered fascism by anyone except some radical (pro Islamic terror) leftists.
I just propose to do that at a bigger scale.
How did ethnicity come into this? You were talking about people who were pro-Hamas, which is a belief. Did you just slip and say ethnicity because you actually want to strip the citizenship and deport all non-white people?
Egypt has always controlled rafah
Israel never forced them to
In this thread
ISRAEL HAS BEEN TRYING TO PUSH PALESTINIANS OUT OF GAZA THROUGH RAFAH FOR DECADES
also in this thread
ISRAEL. DOESN'T LET THEM LEAVE THROUGH RAFAH. EGYPT ONLY STOPS THEM BECAUSE ISRAEL SOMEHOW MAGICALLY FORCES THEM TO. THEY MUST PUT THE SHEENY CURSE OR SOME OTHER JEW MAGIC ON THEM
Not "to go", If every single country on the planet affirmatively refuses you.
Btw I would pay the one way plane ticket with taxpayer money if they have no assets.
The focal part is never again having them on your soil.
Killing would be the last recourse which I don't think would be applied often if at all.
Of course if after exiled they come back that's another problem.
Btw I am just describing ostracism which was invented approx 2500 years ago iirc.
But ofc Greek city states were fascists
Before history Nazis come in, ostracism but permanent.
How did ethnicity come into this? You were talking about people who were pro-Hamas, which is a belief. Did you just slip and say ethnicity because you actually want to strip the citizenship and deport all non-white people?
Except he'll kill the ones who don't have a country to go to. At the same time. LOL
Egypt has always controlled rafah
Israel never forced them to
In this thread
ISRAEL HAS BEEN TRYING TO PUSH PALESTINIANS OUT OF GAZA THROUGH RAFAH FOR DECADES
also in this thread
ISRAEL. DOESN'T LET THEM LEAVE THROUGH RAFAH. EGYPT ONLY STOPS THEM BECAUSE ISRAEL SOMEHOW MAGICALLY FORCES THEM TO. THEY MUST PUT THE SHEENY CURSE OR SOME OTHER JEW MAGIC ON THEM
Israel wants all Palestinians to leave the area and also don't let any of them leave the area and they are guilty of both actions at the same time because reasons
Honestly those quotes are fighting words.
How did ethnicity come into this? You were talking about people who were pro-Hamas, which is a belief. Did you just slip and say ethnicity because you actually want to strip the citizenship and deport all non-white people?
Ethnicity comes into this because you called me a fascist for stripping citizenship, and Nazi+fascism stripped citizenship on the basis of ethnicity, not of ideology.
I want to strip citizenship from Italians in Italy, those are the pro Hamas people.
Some italian radical leftists and some Italian neofascists specifically (horseshoe here is very strong)
You told me to stop posting about antisemitism in colleges because it takes away from the pain of 35k dying in Gaza. Your words. No Jew would ask me to not post about antisemitism at American colleges. So yes, i am having a hard time believing it
It is one thing to be against bibi. Another thing to be against Israel
But to keep defending vic as he constantly says antisemtic slurs and not even acknowledge antisemtism in America?
I don't know
I'm sorry
You told me to stop posting about antisemitism in colleges because it takes away from the pain of 35k dying in Gaza. Your words. No Jew would ask me to not post about antisemitism at American colleges. So yes, i am having a hard time believing it
It is one thing to be against bibi. Another thing to be against Israel
But to keep defending vic as he constantly says antisemtic slurs and not even acknowledge antisemtism in America?
I don't know
I'm sorry
hi, I am a person who can admit I am wrong. and I will gladly admit that I am wrong about the antisemitism thing. however, that is bc as per their modus operandi, Israelis stole the meaning of antisemitism and it no longer means the same as it meant 50 or even 5 years ago.
today antisemitism is anyone who opposes fascism and genocide and mass murder in particular of the people in Gaza and the WB. it has nothing to do with Jewishness.
hi, I am a person who can admit I am wrong. and I will gladly admit that I am wrong about the antisemitism thing. however, that is bc as per their modus operandi, Israelis stole the meaning of antisemitism and it no longer means the same as it meant 50 or even 5 years ago.
today antisemitism is anyone who opposes fascism and genocide and mass murder in particular of the people in Gaza and the WB. it has nothing to do with Jewishness.
Just stfu you clown
Microbet
I'll step away for a bit
I'm sorry if i went to far
Yes it's probably a step too far
I guess i just can't comprehend a Jew with your mindset
Ok, whatever. I am calm.
And yeah, I've suggested that both mets and you, vic, have said things because you're both upset. Like I've said to you that calling Jews Nazis is not really ok with me. But, I still don't think you're an antisemite. I also don't think mets gets off on seeing Palestinian children blown up even though I am also not ok with his thinking that calling for a ceasefire implies you just want bad things to happen to Jews.