Israel/Palestine thread
Think this merits its own thread...
Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..
AM YISRAEL CHAI.
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I put both of those idiots on ignore.
Just posting that from this article to combat all the times that Victor insists that there was no rape
It was 6 months ago but it's important to not forget
its been debunked thoroughly
Boom!!! Another victory for Vic!!!!
At least this wasn’t just a “lol.” That when you KNOW he just dominated the argument.
Incoming responses.
Either “lol.”
Or
“This journalist (who I never heard of prior to this post) has a history of lying for Israel.
I don’t actually have any proof of this, but that’s the zionazi way.”
Did I do it right genocide vic?
I never heard of him but on the first page of his twitter he has videos from Laura Loomer and Visegrad so I think he can safely be ignored.
Vic with another win!!!!!!
You always lol when you are wrong
Then the war goes on until one group doesn't exist i guess. But israel is not stopping with hamas in power
why would you guess that?
from past precedent? or is it something you want to see happen
people who openly support Hamas, and those people are not insignificant in numbers and are quite possibly the majority, at least of those most active in protests.
Judging by the signs we see in photos, no way are Hamas supporters anything but a small minority.
I call Vic an imbecile all the time. He's completely unhelpful. I also called out that JackHi Nazi when he was in here spreading actual antisemetic trash (I caught a ban for that, you're welcome).
The students have gone out of their way to work with Jewish student groups, it's abundantly clear they're not pro-Hamas. Obviously they can't stop various provocateurs and wingnuts like Vic from crashing the party.
You guys are bobbling this NYU thing horribly. No one who's been on a college campus in the past 60 years thinks a basic-ass campus sit-in is a threat to anyone's safety. They're not even trying to actually disrupt the administration like in the 60s. Maybe the basement MAGA chuds can be connived that this is a Hamas training camp that National Guard needs to protect us from, no one else is buying this nonsense.
why would you guess that?
from past precedent? or is it something you want to see happen
Well Bibi has made it clear
Even his opposition Benny has made it clear
You don't get to declare war, kill and kidnap people and then when you are getting your ass kicked say "ok my bad I'm not giving back hostages but you proved your point"
Also if Israel just gave in and released all the prisoners and left hamas in power,
Hamas would be stupid not to do it again
So if Israel withdraws with Hamas is power, hamas wins. And Oct 7 was just phase 1
So Israel will stay in Gaza until hamas is gone. If they decide its not worth pissing off biden maybe they just stay there and wait for January idk. But they ain't leaving with hamas in power
Nor should they
Judging by the signs we see in photos, no way are Hamas supporters anything but a small minority.
If you are calling for a ceasefire without demanding a ceasefire, you are a hamas supporter
I call Vic an imbecile all the time. He's completely unhelpful. I also called out that JackHi Nazi when he was in here spreading actual antisemetic trash (caught a ban for that, you're welcome). The students have gone out of their way to work with Jewish student groups, it's abundantly clear they're not pro-Hamas. Obviously they can't stop various provocateurs and wingnuts like
Columbia has gone hybrid. They have advised jewish students to go to school remotely.
That have barred Professor Shai Davidai from entering campus and he is forced to teach remotely
People like you making light of it is making it worse
I’m trying to think of even one student-led movement that’s been on the wrong side of history. Not coming up with any.
Those damn kids
I call Vic an imbecile all the time. He's completely unhelpful. I also called out that JackHi Nazi when he was in here spreading actual antisemetic trash (I caught a ban for that, you're welcome).
I don't know who banned you for insulting JackHi but it wasn't me. I did perma JackHi, which wasn't a controversial move.
I’m trying to think of even one student-led movement that’s been on the wrong side of history. Not coming up with any.
Those damn kids
I mean if you are very to the left you think that and viceversa.
And anyway there were student movements against nuclear energy and at this point the vast majority of people understand that (opposing nuclear energy instead of pushing it as hard as we could) was one of the biggest mistakes in post WW2 history
Well Bibi has made it clear Even his opposition Benny has made it clearYou don't get to declare war, kill and kidnap people and then when you are getting your ass kicked say "ok my bad I'm not giving back hostages but you proved your point"Also if Israel just gave in and released all the prisoners and left hamas in power, Hamas would be stupid not to do it againSo if Israel wit
so Israel wont do a hostage for ceasefire deal. like I said.
They will for an extended period like 4 months. But israel will eradicate hamas after the ceasefire expires yes
So basically you think this is how things work
I kidnap someone you love and kill others you love
I say "I'll give this person back and toy make sure i don't ever get punished for those i kill"
You say sure!
I’m trying to think of even one student-led movement that’s been on the wrong side of history. Not coming up with any.
Those damn kids
The kids have been right more often than not, but not every time.
There were large protests at Berkeley in 1940 opposing U.S. entry into WWII. In fact, there was widespread opposition around that time to the U.S. entering the war which didn't really dissipate until the attack on Pearl Harbor.
No, not really. Within the framework of history, the student movements have been correct pretty much every single time. It’s an astonishing track record tbh.
I call Vic an imbecile all the time. He's completely unhelpful. I also called out that JackHi Nazi when he was in here spreading actual antisemetic trash (I caught a ban for that, you're welcome). The students have gone out of their way to work with Jewish student groups, it's abundantly clear they're not pro-Hamas. Obviously they can't stop various provocateurs and wingnuts li
Well, at least we agree on Vic. But def throw in a **** you every now and then
I don’t recall jackhi, but Thanks for the ban.
I don’t post much about the college stuff, but if students feel unsafe on campuses, wtf are we to tell them they’re being too soft?
The kids have been right more often than not, but not every time.
There were large protests at Berkeley in 1940 opposing U.S. entry into WWII. In fact, there was widespread opposition around that time to the U.S. entering the war which didn't really dissipate until the attack on Pearl Harbor.
I’m not sure you understand the timeline of what was happening in 1940 and why remaining out of Europe’s conflict was still a very popular sentiment so recently after WWI.
But again, you and Luciom have come up with 2 examples- opposing nuclear energy and opposing war. What, no racist movements? No regressive fascist student strikes? Then maybe someone get Mets a glass of water and a ****ing ativan so he can shut the **** up already about the student protests.
“No student movement has ever been wrong.”
“Here are two off the top of our heads.”
