Israel/Palestine thread
Think this merits its own thread...
Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..
AM YISRAEL CHAI.
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Micro if 500k Ukrainians die, we'll be lucky to see 1/50th the outrage. We'll see more than Syria, for sure. But even now, the aerial images of the Ukrainian cities that are dust are bonkers. The amount of refugees the conflict created is staggering. It won't matter how many of those people die by a pretty white hand. One key element IS missing.
This is a ridiculous and counter-factual comment.
Why would anyone who lives in America waste time protesting? Just do work, make money, buy stuff.
'Protest' is largely a recreation of the privileged classes who don't have anything better to do.
Why would anyone who lives in America waste time protesting? Just do work, make money, buy stuff.
This but unironically
I’m trying to think of even one student-led movement that’s been on the wrong side of history. Not coming up with any.
I’m trying to think of even one student-led movement that’s been on the wrong side of history. Not coming up with any.
Those damn kids
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Guards
The Red Guards were a mass, student-led, paramilitary social movement mobilized by Chairman Mao Zedong in 1966 until their abolishment in 1968, during the first phase of the Cultural Revolution, which he had instituted.[1]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Guards...
Attacks on culture quickly descended into attacks on people. Ignoring guidelines in the 'Sixteen Articles' which stipulated that persuasion rather than force were to be used to bring about the Cultural Revolution, officials in positions of authority and perceived 'bourgeois elements' were denounced and suffered physical and psychological attacks.[20] On 22 August 1966, a central directive was issued to stop police intervention in Red Guard activities.[28] Those in the police force who defied this notice were labeled "counter-revolutionaries." Mao's praise for rebellion effectively endorsed the actions of the Red Guards, which grew increasingly violent.[29]
Public security in China deteriorated rapidly as a result of central officials lifting restraints on violent behavior.[30] Xie Fuzhi, the national police chief, said it was "no big deal" if Red Guards were beating "bad people" to death.[31] The police relayed Xie's remarks to the Red Guards and they acted accordingly.[31] In the course of about two weeks, the violence left some 100 teachers, school officials, and educated cadres dead in Beijing's western district alone. The number injured was "too large to be calculated."[30]
The most gruesome aspects of the campaign included numerous incidents of torture, murder, and public humiliation. Many people who were targets of 'struggle' could no longer bear the stress and committed suicide. In August and September 1966, there were 1,772 people murdered in Beijing alone. In Shanghai there were 704 suicides and 534 deaths related to the Cultural Revolution in September. In Wuhan there were 62 suicides and 32 murders during the same period.[32]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_hosta...
The Iran hostage crisis was a diplomatic standoff between Iran and the United States. Fifty-three American diplomats and citizens were held hostage after a group of militarized Iranian college students belonging to the Muslim Student Followers of the Imam's Line, who supported the Iranian Revolution, including Hossein Dehghan (future Iranian Minister of Defense), Mohammad Ali Jafari (future Revolutionary Guards Commander-In-Chief) and Mohammad Bagheri (future Chief of the General Staff of the Iranian Army),[3][4] took over the U.S. Embassy in Tehran[5][6] and took them as hostages. The hostages were held for 444 days, from November 4, 1979 to their release on January 20, 1981. The crisis is considered a pivotal episode in the history of Iran–United States relations.[7]
Why would anyone who lives in America waste time protesting? Just do work, make money, buy stuff.
Some are being paid
is inconceivable to mets that normal people are so genuinely appalled by this that they are willing to act to end it.
it probably stems mostly from his failure to see Palestinians as human. and his Jewish Supremacist ideas.
is inconceivable to mets that normal people are so genuinely appalled by this that they are willing to act to end it.
Yes every college student at every university bought the same green tents!! Not organized at all
Yes every college student at every university bought the same green tents!! Not organized at all
Even if that were true, so what? Getting funding is good. Organization is good.
Should we compare levels of funding between the Zionist and Palestinian movements? How much a year is spent on Birthright tours alone?
You're wanting to disparage the commitment of the activists. But even if their tents were bought for them, which I don't believe for a minute, it still takes real courage to go out and get beat up by the cops.
you might be joking. but if not.
first off, what Bill said.
but also, this illustrates a problem with narrative and perception. mets make an accusation with no backing. we are expected to take it at face value. when I make any sort of assertion, I am required to post extensive links and if even the slightest detail is imprecise the whole thread goes crazy.
and even when like usual everything for my sources and info is bulletproof, it is disregarded. just yesterday I posted extensive evidence at the depravity of the ADL and Imperialist stooges like BGP argued for pages about how that didnt matter. ironically enough he relented to the argument when Trolly posted his opinion.
so this is mostly my fault bc I cant not engage. but mets has shown no evidence or reasoning about the tents. and as Bill said, even if they were all bought by ((Soros)), who cares.
Three source is micros favorite the post
Don't know if it's true
Definitely possible
Could just be right wing soros conspiracy bs
Either way i seemed to have hit quite a nerve
you might be joking. but if not.first off, what Bill said.but also, this illustrates a problem with narrative and perception. mets make an accusation with no backing. we are expected to take it at face value. when I make any sort of assertion, I am required to post extensive links and if even the slightest detail is imprecise the whole thread goes crazy. and even when like
If some sort of big money organization is fueling the protests then it doesn't change whatever the facts are in Gaza-- no disagreement there-- but it would definitely be interesting.
It's the internet. We are drawn to things that are wrong and must compulsively disprove them.
Not sure if it's ironic or not but there is a NY Post article alleging that it is actually Soros doing some protest funding.
Not sure if it's ironic or not but there is a NY Post article alleging that it is actually Soros doing some protest funding.
I was told by very serious resistance libs that Soros funding protests is an antisemitic trope.
guys it's debunked, it's different tents in different campuses it's just that most brand have green as the cheapest option
https://www.wired.com/story/conspiracy-t...
and they cost so little all it takes is one Karen student scamming dad credit card for 1k or 2 and the campus is full of tents
(or the government: they could just use student loan money they never intend to repay anyway)
