$25----->25k Bankroll Challenge on Ignition

$25----->25k Bankroll Challenge on Ignition

I am going to be starting with $25 in my Ignition Account and try to spin it up to $25,000.

I will start at 5nl since it is the lowest stake on the site and be playing Ignition Reg tables only.

I will be updating every 5k hands with my progress.

My expectation for each limit is as follows:

Expected Winrates for each limit:

5NL: 30bb/100

10NL: 25bb/100

25NL: 20bb/100

50NL: 15bb/100

100NL: 12bb/100

200NL: 10bb/100

Variance will be a decent factor in a lot of these winrates but these are just ball park numbers. Once I hit 25k I will take a 10buyin shot at 500nl! As far as moving up I'll move up whenever I feel like it, but probably after winning 30-40 buyins at the limit.

There will be no cherry picking here since you can't cherry pick a Bankroll Challenge. Wish me luck (or not) and follow along in this thread.

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by InfiniteLand23456 k

No joke. I was thinking this too but a bit too extreme of an allegation to just throw out there. But given his history I wouldn't trust anything he posts.

Confirmed scammer who is somehow a verified coach that just passes down information he gathered from other stables as his own. He only ended up admitting to it because someone called him out on it and went the ''I would've told you'' route. Yeah right.

With that being said. If you don't see how his view on a player having 8.8bb/100 over 900k h

I mean, if he was going to fake a graph, surely he would have faked a graph with more than ~60k hands. I have never seen anyone get so much mileage out of a small sample, but good for him. His feedback in his coaching thread is good, so not sure why you two keep trolling him. If he was scamming people, he wouldn't be getting good reviews.


by MicroDonkYT k

I mean, if he was going to fake a graph, surely he would have faked a graph with more than ~60k hands. I have never seen anyone get so much mileage out of a small sample, but good for him. His feedback in his coaching thread is good, so not sure why you two keep trolling him. If he was scamming people, he wouldn't be getting good reviews.

Combination of 2p2 being dead + people being stupid. Hell he even admitted he's just passing down information obtained in stables. You're essentially paying for 2nd hand information.

If he was scamming people

Just read his last PGC and why he closed it.


I remember Dnegs tried a 500BB approach to blast through the micros, moving up each time he had 500BB for the next level. I think he busted before NL25. Back then 500BB is all I'd ever bring to the room anyway (room = homegame) so I think my very first post here ever was to try and utilize the same approach. Except I think I said something like $25 -> $500,000 just to be different. I actually got to NL50 I think before busting.

One unique caveat was never dropping down in stakes. Instead I'd just slice my buyin always leaving myself with 5 averaged bullets for the highest limit I had reached.


Imagine thinking and bragging you are the best player in this forum and making 75$ a week….

I don‘t understand how people cannot see what kind of Person this doodoo guy is.

He is a scammer, tells everyone he knows everything about poker and has no results at all
The only thing he showed was a 65k graph - where he probably needed a 300k+ example to use the best sessions.
Do you really believe a person so obsessed of poker (and being the best) plays 5k hands a week??? Ridiculous….

Every rational poker player, with the skills DooDoo is telling he is having, would just play, climbing up the stakes and make money (and not playing a shady challenge where he makes 75$ a week)


Trolls gonna troll.

Meanwhile...



by DooDooPoker k

HERO ($5.63) Hands: 337111]

Should meme about showing 22k hand samples when having 340k hands played.

I don‘t understand how people cannot see what kind of Person this doodoo guy is.

People should just read his last PGC and see how he likes stealing stake money to sports bet.

In before mod deletes my post again and hands me another 24 hour ban for stating facts.


by InfiniteLand23456 k

In before mod deletes my post again and hands me another 24 hour ban for stating facts.

Your posts are probably being deleted because you're just repeating yourself ad nauseum, and you're probably being banned for not actually contributing anything further to the thread.

Tip: You don't like OP and have some "facts", then make one post and move on. Others will see it, and can make up their own minds.


by InfiniteLand23456 k

No joke. I was thinking this too but a bit too extreme of an allegation to just throw out there. But given his history I wouldn't trust anything he posts.

Confirmed scammer who is somehow a verified coach that just passes down information he gathered from other stables as his own. He only ended up admitting to it because someone called him out on it and went the ''I would've told you'' route. Yeah right.

With that being said. If you don't see how his view on a player having 8.8bb/100 over 900k h

If we are talking pokerstars, I definitely agree with you, and you can look at one of my posts before itt to see I did the hard job of looking who the biggest winners were. Ignition is or was softer though.

Our boy here had a bad experience with BTS, then made a thread pretty much trashing them, to just enter another stable a few years later, get the material, get himself fired and start a coaching business. So no, I don’t like him for his ethics.

Kendoo and you are not pointing this or anything else that is concrete, just throwing punches out of nowhere like little spoiled kids who don’t know how to argue as adults.


by ViktorKaBloooom k

If we are talking pokerstars, I definitely agree with you, and you can look at one of my posts before itt to see I did the hard job of looking who the biggest winners were. Ignition is or was softer though.

Our boy here had a bad experience with BTS, then made a thread pretty much trashing them, to just enter another stable a few years later, get the material, get himself fired and start a coaching business. So no, I don’t like him for his ethics.

Kendoo and you are not pointing this or anything e

Nothing I said is factually wrong.

Thanks for confirming what I said.


Late night musings a few Corona's deep. 5nl is too fun.

This spot is interesting.

You need 2 sizing's here OTF. This one size flop nonsense literally does not work because a bunch of hands in your range sh.it the bed OTT when you are supposed to jam on 2 FD turns/SD turns. Solver will go B33/B50/B75 but we are mere mortals so let's pick B33/B75.

Even though having 2 cbet sizing sucks as far as keeping track of your range it's wayyyyy easier in 3BPs relative to SRPs.

Same concept on 2 BW (non Ace) boards if you didn't know. Okay HH in question.

Hand History driven straight to this forum with DriveHUD 2 Poker Tracking Software

NL Holdem 0.05(BB)
HERO ($5) [VPIP: 29.2% | PFR: 24.3% | AGG: 36.7% | Flop Agg: 41.4% | Turn Agg: 34% | River Agg: 37.7% | 3Bet: 11.5% | Fold to 3Bet: 60.1% | 4Bet: 13.9% | Hands: 337326]
BB ($4.02) [VPIP: 30.8% | PFR: 30.8% | AGG: 20% | Hands: 13]
HJ ($2.50) [VPIP: 30.8% | PFR: 30.8% | AGG: 0% | Hands: 13]
CO ($5.83) [VPIP: 27.3% | PFR: 13.6% | AGG: 36.4% | Hands: 24]
BTN ($8.65) [VPIP: 39.1% | PFR: 21.7% | AGG: 43.8% | Flop Agg: 50% | Turn Agg: 20% | River Agg: 60% | 3Bet: 16.7% | 4Bet: 0% | Hands: 24]

Dealt to Hero: A 9

HJ Folds, CO Folds, BTN Raises To $0.10, HERO Raises To $0.50, BB Folds, BTN Calls $0.40

Hero SPR on Flop: [4.29 effective]
Flop ($1.05): J 3 4
HERO Checks, BTN Checks

Turn ($1.05): J 3 4 T
HERO Bets $0.33 (Rem. Stack: $4.17), BTN Calls $0.33 (Rem. Stack: $7.82)

River ($1.71): J 3 4 T A
HERO Bets $0.15 (Rem. Stack: $4.02), BTN Calls $0.15 (Rem. Stack: $7.67)

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HERO wins: $1.91

Results don't matter here but the 2nd most important point (besides understanding flop is NEVER a range bet) and the 2 sizing concept is this.

Once flop goes X/X.

If the turn is an Ace you again need 2 sizing's you literally have no choice. We need a super small sizing and OB. You can freestyle on other turns but the Ace is the important card to remember.

B10 sizing is gold OTR. You use it on a ton of Ace runouts or Ace high boards

Talk soon


by DooDooPoker k

Late night musings a few Corona's deep. 5nl is too fun.

This spot is interesting.

You need 2 sizing's here OTF. This one size flop nonsense literally does not work because a bunch of hands in your range sh.it the bed OTT when you are supposed to jam on 2 FD turns/SD turns. Solver will go B33/B50/B75 but we are mere mortals so let's pick B33/B75.

Even though having 2 cbet sizing sucks as far as keeping track of your range it's wayyyyy easier in 3BPs relative to SRPs.

Same concept on 2 BW (non Ace)

You really believe the 10% bet was good?????? Great value with TP at 5NL - lol


by ViktorKaBloooom k

Why do you hate DooDooPoker so much? Did you guys ever have a heated argument on the cash forum or theory and is this an ego thing? Are you linked to any of the former stables OP played on? Are you that guy who had a very winning redline high winrate graph who claimed it was all due to hud-based exploitation, and was OP the one who exposed you as a fraud and got the PBG thread removed? Just trying to understand the hidden agendas going on ITT.

For a long time DDP posted in the strategy forum regularly. While a lot of his analysis using MDA was super insightful, and he helped drive higher level discussion, he was also typically dismissive of posts/posters that didnÂ’t agree with him.
He would do things like change the hole cards in a hand history to make some point about a certain node, get ppl to reply to the thread, then be like “you guys got it all wrong”.
It was all a bit silly and made a farce out of the idea of posting a hand to get feedback. Like, he wasnÂ’t posting the hand to get feedback, HE was the COACH and you were lucky to be able to read his MDA insights for free!
Naturally it rubbed people the wrong way.


by InfiniteLand23456 k

Should meme about showing 22k hand samples when having 340k hands played.

People should just read his last PGC and see how he likes stealing stake money to sports bet.

In before mod deletes my post again and hands me another 24 hour ban for stating facts.

He paid the money back.
Nobody cares if he slow paid a backer 4 years ago. He’s not applying for a stake.
Stick to relevant criticisms imo.


by RalphWaldoEmerson k

He paid the money back.
Nobody cares if he slow paid a backer 4 years ago. He’s not applying for a stake.
Stick to relevant criticisms imo.

Speaks to his character. Very relevant

A coach that sells information that isn't his as his and has a history of being scum. Seems like very relevant criticism.


When there's a lot of mixing between similar sizes I just assume the middle one (or smaller of 2) is fine. In this spot EV loss is 0.06% for just 50% vs 33/50/75

Turn offsuit ace solver has a more obvious 2 size strategy. The overbet size is much more important, only using that is an ev loss of 0.07% which I'm very surprised by

Against a competent opponent it seems bad to increase your exploitable surface area so much for basically no gain, unless there's an exploitative reason to add the size. Simplified strats are very interesting I know Pat Howard has done a lot with them.


by InfiniteLand23456 k

Speaks to his character. Very relevant

A coach that sells information that isn't his as his and has a history of being scum. Seems like very relevant criticism.

You’re being disingenuous. He’s not selling data, he’s selling interpretation of data. Which describes most poker coaching. The fact that the data comes from a CFP he’s not a part of anymore could be considered unethical but I personally don’t , CFPs are bad for the poker ecosystem and any leaked proprietary information (obtained legitimately) is good for “the rest of us” . But anyway there’s many shades of ethics in poker and this is a 1/10 at most on the scale of unethical.


by RalphWaldoEmerson k

For a long time DDP posted in the strategy forum regularly. While a lot of his analysis using MDA was super insightful, and he helped drive higher level discussion, he was also typically dismissive of posts/posters that didnÂ’t agree with him.
He would do things like change the hole cards in a hand history to make some point about a certain node, get ppl to reply to the thread, then be like “you guys got it all wrong”.
It was all a bit silly and made a farce out of the idea

Hey man, thanks for being the only one to bring actual points in an intelligent way and not be a complete troll like the others.

It's a matter of trust I guess, nothing he did in isolation would make him an actual scammer I guess, but given everything, even if we are only looking for the data he has, how can we ever be completely sure he is giving us genuine numbers?

Agree with you about CFPs being bad for the game and deserving some form of payback.

I guess I've made all points I wanted to make about OP and have no need to following him anymore, so I'm out 😀


by RalphWaldoEmerson k

You’re being disingenuous. He’s not selling data, he’s selling interpretation of data. Which describes most poker coaching. The fact that the data comes from a CFP he’s not a part of anymore could be considered unethical but I personally don’t , CFPs are bad for the poker ecosystem and any leaked proprietary information (obtained legitimately) is good for “the rest of us” . But anyway there’s many shades of ethics in poker and this is a 1/10 at most on the scale of unethical.

What he is actually doing is using 2p2 to promote his coaching to make more than he can playing, why else would he play a game with a big blind in cents?

People have been doing that here on 2p2 since the beginning of the forum. Sometimes it involves coaching, or recruitment to scammed private games, or to generate prop bet action but it’s all the same model. Make a thread with a controversial question or challenge, then get people to argue back and forth. The best thing about this one is that OP is doing this for so little money compared to the six figure prop bets of yesteryear like the ones Viffer never paid up on and OnePac drugging JC Moussa at the Tank Game in LA.

DDP has pulled this a few times recently on 2p2, I assume he is just some poor guy in euroland and making a few hundred in USD variance free is life changing for him.

This isn’t trolling, just a PSA based on the history of the forum.


by RalphWaldoEmerson k

You’re being disingenuous. He’s not selling data, he’s selling interpretation of data. Which describes most poker coaching. The fact that the data comes from a CFP he’s not a part of anymore could be considered unethical but I personally don’t , CFPs are bad for the poker ecosystem and any leaked proprietary information (obtained legitimately) is good for “the rest of us” . But anyway there’s many shades of ethics in poker and this is a 1/10 at mo

Good to see some logic being injected into this thread, it is very refreshing.

by TripleBerryJam k

When there's a lot of mixing between similar sizes I just assume the middle one (or smaller of 2) is fine. In this spot EV loss is 0.06% for just 50% vs 33/50/75

Turn offsuit ace solver has a more obvious 2 size strategy. The overbet size is much more important, only using that is an ev loss of 0.07% which I'm very surprised by

Against a competent opponent it seems bad to increase your exploitable surface area so much for basically no gain, unless there's an exploitative reason to add the size. Si

I respect your opinion and appreciate the calculations. Can you run a nodelocked sim for only B50 flop sizing?, I'd like to see the turn jamming strategy because I know a lot of our range is going to want to jam on a bunch of turns.

With regard to the loss of EV. I think it just comes down to personal preference. If I am going to go out of my way to study a spot and I want to really understand the spot and not take too many shortcuts, seeing the different flop sizing's helps me do that in a way that simplified strategies do not.

Basically, it is psychological hack for me, so because I am forced to think more on the flop I become incentivized to think about turn and river more. Which leads me to understanding the game tree better.

I think both points are valid so my previous post was definitely hyperbole.


by Lionelhuttz k

OnePac drugging JC Moussa at the Tank Game in LA.

can you please link to this, i couldn't find any reference to it

but when i googled jc moussa i came across this picture - did he play in Macau? i remember one session i played there a guy who looks exactly like that was repeatedly jumping up from his seat and screaming at the top of his lungs every few minutes and each time the rest of the table just calmly asked him to chill and then he'd sit down again and then a few minutes later jump up and scream again

it was the whale game got a little extra leeway i guess and he was never asked to leave and security never came over - the entire poker room would occasionally stop play and turn their heads to wonder wtf was going on at his table - just assumed it was a horrible downswing and series of bad beats - for years that man's image has been burned in my memory and I'm wondering if i finally found out who it was - and lord knows how many times I've asked people "you remember a swarthy guy with a huge afro who played" and i always got "no idea who you're talking about"



by InfiniteLand23456 k

Ah you're one of those people. Say what I say, just in more words and pretend you said something else. He's selling INFORMATION obtained by being part of multiple CFPs as his own. Btw, by his own account, it's not even his own interpretation but a literal copy paste. I guess you're okay with scum being scum because they are stealing from other scum. That's fair enough.

Love how you people just keep pretending that stealing money from your backer is fine. Lets not re-write history here. He took 2

So every CFP owner is scum according to your logic?

Saulo Costa/guys from bitb/Nick Howard/Pat Howard/Matthew Marinelli?

Can a moderator step in here and put a muzzle on this guy, it's really getting out of a hand.


by InfiniteLand23456 k

No? Those were Ralph's words not mine. He's okay with you pretending any of the MDA coaching you're selling is something you created because you got it from CFPs and ''CFPs are bad for the poker ecosystem''.

You're not very good at reading are you?

Oh no a mod. Pussy.

When you get banned and make a new account (we know you will since you are heavily invested in this thread).

It will be very easy to identify you based on how you post so we can easily ban you again.

Yes Moderators are here to maintain order.

You offer nothing of value except calling everyone names and spreading vitriol. Hopefully other people can help me out and report your posts as well.


by DooDooPoker k

When you get banned and make a new account (we know you will since you are heavily invested in this thread).

It will be very easy to identify you based on how you post so we can easily ban you again.

Yes Moderators are here to maintain order.

You offer nothing of value except calling everyone names and spreading vitriol. Hopefully other people can help me out and report your posts as well.

It's all good. I achieved what I wanted to. Saddens me to see scum like you take advantage of what was once a great forum.

But looks like enough people read you're scum before all my posts get deleted so my work here is done.

Good luck, you clearly need it.

Yes Moderators are here to maintain order.

Keep hiding behind mods.


by Lionelhuttz k

What he is actually doing is using 2p2 to promote his coaching to make more than he can playing, why else would he play a game with a big blind in cents?

People have been doing that here on 2p2 since the beginning of the forum. Sometimes it involves coaching, or recruitment to scammed private games, or to generate prop bet action but it’s all the same model. Make a thread with a controversial question or challenge, then get people to argue back and forth. The best thing about this one is that OP

What was the Viffer prop bet?


i think it's a reference to this

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/19/hi...

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