English Premier League 2023-24 Thread

They were slipping down the table and fudging games to scrape wins and draws, due to the problems I mentioned that I'm not going to type out all over again and also due to Emery being a bad fit for a rebuild, which took not only years and money but also courage to tell expensive big name players they weren't performing and to drop then sell them or in some cases terminate their contracts.

Those problems don't seem to exist at Sours and with their huge revenues they should have a significantly easier job of rebuilding with much less surgery required in the dressing room and at board/senior manager level. Like I said, you can't really compare the two situations.

Yes but the foundations have been wrong for decades. As long as I can remember it's been a case of "next year will be our year", but of course it never came, forever in the shadow of a much larger more successful club a couple of miles away.

imo they should invest a lot more in the youth programme because their potential catchment area is huge, much larger than Arse's who have to invest a lot of resources in checking out other clubs' youth talents.

This is what I would describe as a "creative" analysis of the situation at Spurs.

As is this

I don't get the comparison unless you think there's a similar amount of restructuring and firing needed, which doesn't seem right because a) it was only what, six or so years ago that numerous season ticket holders I worked with were saying they were going to win the league under the same Lewis/Levy control, and b) I'm not aware of a clique of senior and toxic players trying to stir up dissent in the dressing room which is traumatic and time-consuming for a club and team to deal with and inevitably takes its short term toll on results.

I'd like to hear your take on it given you were presumably cock a hoop for a couple of seasons under the same structure when they were riding high briefly.

Theres gonna be a vote on scrapping VAR in the Premier League.

It's not VAR that's the problem imo, it's the officials using it. I do think the version used in the Champions League seems better, especially with the semi automated offside.

Bin VAR and go back to the standards that fits the English refs' competence.

I don't think you can have your lolspurs (and eat it too) quite like that jalfrezi

Bin the English refs. They are very clearly the root source of the problem.

Performing so badly in a normal job is usually HR and disciplinaries etc.

Yeah it is the officials that are the problem. With no VAR Everton still wouldn't get a pen for a blatant handball by City, the ref would just claim not to have seen it. With VAR at least its clearly corrupt for all to see.

The offside decisions need automated though, I think that was supposed to be coming in anyway.

I don't think most people think it is corrupt, that's the problem. Corruption is something for other leagues like Italy, Spain and even Germany, never England.

VAR sucks. Get rid and never look back. It’s absolutely terrible for the viewing experience.

Lol the guy walking into the away end at OT wearing flippers, that's solid trolling/preparedness

lol jackson

TOON

Good to have you back James

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This gives off Michael Scott giving a speech to the warehouse workers vibes

Well to a) they were delusional. And to b) no two situations will be exactly the same, but you're the one suggesting Ange is failing after an improved season with a much younger and mostly new team

The Athletic saying that even the Spurs staff were joking about losing to City and one of them told Ange jokingly to play a youth side and he lost it. Fans are one thing but the staff!?

Analysis I've seen from both sides on spurs is pretty bad and off base.

Ange has some good ideas and although they've played naively in some spots he's shown some good tactical wrinkles to make me think there's something of substance there. Someone needs to get in his ear and force him to hire a set pieces coach.

They have a decent bit of roster work to do but if I'm projecting their error bars I see no reason why they can't put themselves in a really good spot to be a top 4 team. Especially with there being some uncertainty around Liverpool post klopp.

None of Chelsea/united/Newcastle inspire confidence in their ability to get their **** together. So villa is their main comp for t4 which like I don't see any reason that they shouldn't be able to progress past villa who's probably at the top of their range right now.

I'll take Chelsea to be the best of that group next year, including Villa and Spurs....

Also apparently the fan that got kicked out was asking Ange why he wasn't animated on the sideline, that is so soft

Both if these probably correct. Chelsea absolutely should be t4 contenders next season. Poch is a decent enough manager, and they obviously have a solid playing staff. However, It's probably odds against Poch being in change this time next year, so they will be back to square one at some stage.

We're obviously in a much better spot 12 months down the line, and will likely be better in another 12 months.

Biggest achievement is replacing 4 of the back 5 last season, and the players all being huge net positives. Porro, VdV and Vicario are all in the conversation for our player of the season, and Udogie has also been one of our better players.

However, the midfield and forward line do need some work. We need at least 3 starting players in that area (6, 8 & winger) and another striker option. If we do well with those transfers, we'll definitely improve next season.