British Politics
Been on holiday for a few weeks, surprised to find no general discussion of British politics so though I'd kick one off.
Tory leadership contest is quickly turning into farce. Trump has backed Boris, which should be reason enough for anyone with half a brain to exclude him.
Of the other candidates Rory Stewart looks the best of the outsiders. Surprised to see Cleverly and Javid not further up the betting, but not sure the Tory membership are ready for a brown PM.
https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/bri...
Regarding the LD leadership contest, Jo Swinson is miles ahead of any other candidate (and indeed any of the Tory lot). Should be a shoe in.
Finally, it's Groundhog Day in Labour - the more serious the anti-Semitism claims get, the more Corbyn's cronies write their own obituary by blaming it on outlandish conspiracy theories - this week, it's apparently the Jewish Embassy's fault...
Good luck in his quest to bring more support and comfort to poor terrorists everywhere, and continues to be anti-racist by ignoring racism even when it's right in front of his face.
diebitter folds today's Daily Mail back up and leans back contentedly, with his day's mindless post complete.
Even after he would have resigned from the HoL...
Gove going going gone.
Can't believe he fell for this old one...
I got told ITT that the UK had good speech protections. Not as strong as the American 1a, but pretty solid.
Explain this pls?
Class H presumed consent for display of the EU flag under the Town and Country Planning (Control of Advertisements) (England) Regulations 2007 was withdrawn in 2021, since the UK is no longer a member and the flag doesn't come under that head, but the lady should obviously apply for discretionary consent and meanwhile tell the council where to get off, since it's evident she is being harassed by a wonky neighbour. My late parents used to have a neighbour who, throughout the Grand Prix season (which is most of the year), flew the flag of whichever country was hosting the next Formula 1 race. Except in regard to the British Grand Prix (for which he flew the Union Jack), none of those flags had Class H presumed consent, but nobody in the neighbourhood was such a malicious, obsessive and senseless busybody as to snitch to the council about it.
Incidentally, the EU flag is not really the EU flag. The EU merely borrowed it from the Council of Europe, of which the UK remains a founder member. So, even though it's no longer specifically scheduled under Class H in the 2021 advertising rules, this is a legal oversight, since the flags of international bodies to which the UK belongs are permitted without question as a category, and the lady in Oxford will have a good case to fly it.
Incidentally, the EU flag is not really the EU flag. The EU merely borrowed it from the Council of Europe, of which the UK remains a founder member. So, even though it's no longer specifically scheduled under Class H in the 2021 advertising rules, this is a legal oversight, since the flags of international bodies to which the UK belongs are permitted without question as a category, and the lady in Oxford will have a good case to fly it.
Tbh my whole point was that giving local government the power to regulate whatever symbol you want to show from your property is absolutely antithetical to very basic freedom of speech provisions, no matter if it's justified with aesthetics or anything like that.
Other countries don't allow that power to local government to begin with.
It's truly incredible that ANY flag could be banned by government (local or not) in a first world country in ANY private building, even discussing the topic feels like 1984
God knows why you're getting so wound up about an inoffensive flag flown in a small country hundreds of miles away, but you do you.
Tbh my whole point was that giving local government the power to regulate whatever symbol you want to show from your property is absolutely antithetical to very basic freedom of speech provisions, no matter if it's justified with aesthetics or anything like that.
Other countries don't allow that power to local government to begin with.
It's truly incredible that ANY flag could be banned by government (local or not) in a first world country in ANY private building, even discussing the topic feels l
but we have pretty good free speach protection
This may be a dubious case but decent laws always throw up some dubious cases and by any standards this is trivial.
God knows why you're getting so wound up about an inoffensive flag flown in a small country hundreds of miles away, but you do you.
uh? i am wound up because the flag isn't allowed in what used to be a bastion of liberal (in the old classic sense) values the world looked up at, to learn and civilize.
This is like watching the roman empire crumble in slow motion
Nonsense, it's nothing like the last days of the Roman Empire - Boris Johnson isn't in power any more.
starmer gets to spend the whole campaign reminding everyone that he booted the corbynistas to the curb, and rishi's most effective attack line 'you tried to make jeremy corbyn our prime minister' is completely blunted
jeremy has been played like a fiddle, and its great
It's certainly true that the right is in the ascendency and lots of people ar every happy about it.
Not so great for those of us on the left. We have alot of ground to make up and it will take a long time. Time we may not have.
Playing a blinder is part of the problem. Boris played a blinder at the last GE'. Maybe honesty and values would have served him and us better
How dare you suggest it's not all simplistic football stuff.
Tbh my whole point was that giving local government the power to regulate whatever symbol you want to show from your property is absolutely antithetical to very basic freedom of speech provisions, no matter if it's justified with aesthetics or anything like that.
Other countries don't allow that power to local government to begin with.
It's truly incredible that ANY flag could be banned by government (local or not) in a first world country in ANY private building, even discussing the topic feels l
It's to do with advertising rules. It does not relate to freedom of speech.
The Conservative Party has said it would bring back mandatory national service if it wins the general election.
It said 18-year-olds would have a choice of either joining the military full-time, or volunteering one weekend every month carrying out a community service.
The party is proposing a Royal Commission to consider the details but would plan for the first teenagers to take part in September 2025.
The cost is expected to be around £2.5bn per year.
Under the plans, young people could choose a full-time, 12-month placement in the armed forces or UK cyber defence, learning about logistics, cyber security, procurement or civil response operations.
Their other option would be to volunteer one weekend per month - or 25 days per year - in their community with organisations such as fire, police and the NHS.
Don't hate it - seems pretty good that all 18yos will have a guaranteed job for 12 months - but not really a vote winner for me, albeit I expect it will be popular among the Tory grass roots.
Labour also extending the vote to 16 year olds, which I'm less in favour of, but again it's all a bit meh when we consider the important issues of our time.
Very much hate the national service idea. The government has no place forcing adults to do such things.
Very much like the votes for 16 year olds. We treat them as adults in so many other ways, it's only reasonable that they are allowed to participate.
The idea that 18 year olds need to "get out of their bubble" or that 16 year olds aren't responsible enough is the most depressingly condescending nonsense.
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if age of consent for everything goes to 16 from 18 (signing contracts, marriage, driving licence, drinking alcohol and so on) then it can make sense but otherwise i strongly disagree, there is a need for consistency.
as for government sanctioned slavery I am against as well
Don't hate it - seems pretty good that all 18yos will have a guaranteed job for 12 months - but not really a vote winner for me, albeit I expect it will be popular among the Tory grass roots.
I think it's an appalling idea.
The volunteering for the NHS etc could be a great idea if it isn't compulsory. Make it was well organised and I'd bet huge numbers of people would volunteer without any compulsion. Having people there who really dont want to be is a serioudly bad idea. Having loads of volunteers without some professional level of organisation to make use of them is just stupidity.
