The "LOLCANADA" thread...again

you are nervous because you know it's a good framing with voters

the general idea that the left has an horrifying desire to control every aspect of your life is something many people know about in the back of their minds but they can push it away if they agree with some specific policy.

but being reminded day in and day out that the left actually is evil and actually wants to make your life worse works

The Liberal health minister is on video implying that if families go on 10 day road trip for vacation the planet will burn.....I guess it's ok for families that can afford it or fly though.

Can u post that clip. ?

You’ve chosen the stupidest interpretation, as expected.

I’m quite happy being on the side of history that tries to actually care about our children and actually do something to minimize climate change. I have little patience for faux conservative “think of the children” BS while they try to not just do nothing, but to actively increase fossil fuel consumption with tax breaks.

Whatever helps you sleep at night. I know I am on the right side of history. Morally since 3 BILLION people (including kids) use less energy than your refrigerator we need to actively embrace all forms of energy. Fossil fuels being the most plentiful, cheapest and reliable we should not be restricting their use. Telling kids a 10 day road trip will cause the world to burn will never be the right side of history.

No sorry, never did figure how to post Twitter clips. Google it

History that creates a deficit so big that screws future generations and any child working the mines in Africa but who cares about them Uke and Justin don't and we all know Budgets Balance themselves

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/travel/news/li...

Uh the carbon tax is deficit neutral. Try to get at least the basics right.

given the hissy fit that conservatives in ultra rich ultra high conception countries have over the idea that may they should slightly reduce their energy usage, I don’t think you get to play the “what about 3rd world countries!!!” card.

So a liberal minister exaggerated a situation with inflammatory results ?
Damn that straight from the conservative book ….
And conservative complain ? lol .

Well maybe some realize how we feel 50% of the time when polievre open his mouth .

The carbon tax may be but Justin Trudeaus policies are not . Accumulating more debt than all the prime minister’s before him

Ya most countries had huge spikes over Covid. Canada has the lowest deficit as percent of gdp in the g7 - GREAT JOB TRUDEAU.

Also, the whole future generations thing is overstated. Much of the new debt inflated away, and we experience inflation now. For example, my mortgage is way easier to pay off these days post inflation because my salary goes up so much from inflation raises so that even with resigning higher mortgage is a smaller percentage of my budget. Same idea at the federal level.

Like a broken record .
Certainly do not look of what would of happen without it .

Ps: this quote u love to write is so dubious .
The economy grows so obv u can borrow more compare to older prime ministers of years/decades past .
Your quote as no meaning at face value .
Another perfect example of populist talking points to make headlines but actually do not mean anything .

In an example u should understand .
A home builder retiree telling you you are so bad in building houses because u borrow so much to build compare when he did 30 years ago .
Well duh of course you borrow more cause the house value and it cost are higher right?

I’m poor I make 30k$ a year ?
Depends which countries u live in…

But yeah the old absolutism binary talking points u live in necessarily gets u there …

"Ultra rich high conception countries" have done more good for the environment than anyone. Who's throwing a hissy fit, Liberals are the unhinged wacko's throwing tantrums about cutting taxes. So you just want to just slightly reduce energy use now?

You are the one that thinks morally you are on the right side of history because the world is burning and we need taxes to stop the use of cheap, plentiful, reliable energy. Morally the right thing to do is embrace cheap, plentiful, reliable energy and allow 3rd world countries to flourish like we have been able to do.

If what you really cared about was poor 3rd world countries there are tonnes of things you could do, starting with lowering the consumption in ultra rich high consumption countries like Canada. Heck you could even do it in a CO2 neutral way where the lower consumption in Canada counters higher consumption in low income countries. I’ve always supported that as we lower co2 useage globally rich countries have a massive responsibility to help out.

Perhaps you’d support 10x the foreign aid we give to help these countries out? Surely this “think of poor countries” isn’t just a sick, cynical talking point to justify you using as much carbon as you want here in Canada???? Tell me it’s not true!

Wait I thought the world was going to burn if we didn't lower emissions? Now we just have to be neutral or "slightly" decrease CO2?

AGAIN! You are the one who thinks you are morally on the right side of history I am just explaining why morally you are not. YOU are the one that wants to keep fossil fuels in the ground, stop production. Would you support a 10x production in Canadian fossil fuels if they are shipped via pipeline to countries living in energy poverty?

Is it moral or not moral to care about what we leave over to future generation after our passing ?
U don’t seem to care about what would happen after you leave this planet ….

Lol, my goodness your ability to follow a basic conversation is....well....I guess consistent with someone who thinks a rainy may in alberta disproves that global warming contributes to forest fires.

You are the one simultaneously:
1) Throwing a hissy fit that about paying gas taxes in one of the highest consumption per capita countries in the world.
2) Pathetically trying to justify your hissy fit by saying "what about poor countries"!

The logic is just backwards. If you actually cared about said poor countries, there are a million things you could do to help them including cutting here in Canada and shipping the difference to Africa (or...uh...via "pipelines" in your bizarre geography). Personally I think we should do a LOT more to help poor countries transition into a clean energy future so we can BOTH cut global emissions AND support 3rd world countries. However, if conservative in rich countries who usually oppose foreign aid also can't even conceive of the idea of slightly reducing their own consumption without going insane we have a big problem. That is, you are the problem.

So why in last 30 years, nothing much as happens ?

What do you mean? We had dramatic technological improvements in the last 30 years.

Nah, I follow it fine, you on the other hand...That also isn't what I said, I asked you if a record rain May is a sign that the carbon tax is working at stopping wild fires.

1. I'm not throwing a hissy fit, I have 3 vacation trips planned already for this summer (Thanks carbon rebate!) Also the 2nd largest country and has beautiful scenery from coast to coast to see, especially in the summer.

2. Not pathetic, legit counter argument to someone who believes they have the moral high ground (you don't).

It's really amazing how little you know and how pompous you are. Yes, pipelines to the east and west coast, oil has been shipper to Africa before you know.

Almost 2 Trillion spent on clean energy last year, what number are ya thinking? Since it should be a LOT more. Again 3 BILlION people live in energy poverty, Canada slightly reducing their own consumption isn't going to do anything if you want to bring those people out of energy poverty and cut emissions.

Lol, what an utterly inept question. No, Shifty, a rainy may in one part of one country isn't evidence against the efficacy of reducing global emissions. Again, 3rd graders understand the difference. If you are really in the mood for extrapolating from a single data point, you might like to look at the 2023 year here: https://www.statista.com/statistics/5535....

While I agree Canada - acting entirely alone - doesn't magically fix global poverty, at least I'm heading in the right direction. Canada is horrible at per-capita emissions and should be first in line to reduce those emissions. A more even distribution of consumption, even if it didn't cut global emissions, makes it EASIER for poor countries, not HARDER. Nobody believes you actually give a **** about global poverty or would support any number of policies that would actually help them, but at least don't maintain the nonsensical viewpoint that Canada consuming as much carbon as your heart desires magically helps global poverty. Yikes.

The problem isn’t solve at all , it increases .
So those technological improvements is vastly insufficient by themselves for now .

To claim we will get there in 50 years solely by the aid of technology alone is pure speculation .
That is why we have those carbon taxes program and subsidies in a lot of other fields to slow down the impact of human activities on climate changes .
Slowing down climate changes will give us a better margin of safety to make sure technology will get us there .