Israel/Palestine thread
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Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..
AM YISRAEL CHAI.
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CrossNerd it's quite complicated to avoid personal attacks for people with relatives and/or friends under terrorist threat, when someone is allowed to post unlimited Hamas propaganda in this thread, same as it was with Viktor.
Imagine someone starts posting 4-5 lies (totally fabricated things that never happened, or completely manipulated things that did happen but were completely different in reality) per day for months in the election or trump thread, about Biden.
Videos of people being violent in Argentina claiming it's DNC members. Stuff like that every day, multiple times, per months.
Would that be allowed? Because you are allowing it in this thread
If he was a Jewish journalist amongst Palestinians he would be raped and killed. I applaud the kids for defending their friend from this terrorist. I applaud them for not acting like animals like other cultures would.
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Varoufakis is a discredited madman rejected by his own people.
If he was a Jewish journalist amongst Palestinians he would be raped and killed. I applaud the kids for defending their friend from this terrorist. I applaud them for not acting like animals like other cultures would.
This x 1000.
If the roles were reversed, the journalist would be brutally murdered.
It is indeed just another day of Hamas hiding among civilians to force Israel to kill Gazans.
Hamas’ utter disregard for the people they govern is indeed disgusting.
It is indeed just another day of Hamas hiding among civilians to force Israel to kill Gazans.
Hamas’ utter disregard for the people they govern is indeed disgusting.
The Israelis report that the hostages were being held in civilian homes (under what conditions of compulsion or co-operation we don't know). The high death toll in the rescue is sobering, but the Israelis were entitled to do whatever it took and to set a high price on hostage-taking and hostage-holding. (It's just a pity that they've given such extravagant and encouraging rewards to hostage-takers in the past, which I guess they now realise is a thing that, per international best practice, you don't do. Their past compliant behaviour may be a reason why Hamas took the hostages, thinking it would prevent retaliation for the crimes of Oct 7.)
The Israelis report that the hostages were being held in civilian homes (under what conditions of compulsion or co-operation we don't know). The high death toll in the rescue is sobering, but the Israelis were entitled to do whatever it took and to set a high price on hostage-taking and hostage-holding. (It's just a pity that they've given such extravagant and encouraging rewards to hostage-takers in the past, which I guess they now realise is a thing that, per international best practice, you d
Do you think the Hamas reported death toll is accurate? If I had to guess, I would say shave off a 0 at least from the reported death toll. And probably another 1/4 were directly killed by Palestinian "civilians" who engaged Israeli commandos in a firefight during the extraction.
Also, if I had to guess, I would say Hamas was not involved at all in holding the hostages, or fighting the Israeli's on the way out. It was 100% "civilians."
Obviously, not everyone is a fighter with a weapons cache in their living room, or holding hostages in their home. But some non negligible % of Palestinians "civilians" are doing these things. Which is a direct reason why there is fighting and casualties, even when there is no Hamas members to be found.
It is indeed just another day of Hamas hiding among civilians to force Israel to kill Gazans.
Hamas’ utter disregard for the people they govern is indeed disgusting.
Again, I would not be surprised if Hamas wasn't involved at all. At some point you need to accept there are a lot of non Hamas Palestinians directly involved in the resistance; and you cant just frame it as Hamas holding the entire Palestinian population hostage.
It is indeed just another day of Hamas hiding among civilians to force Israel to kill Gazans.
Hamas’ utter disregard for the people they govern is indeed disgusting.
When groups take hostages it does not force us to kill them We just dont do that.
Unless the lives of the hostages somehow aren't considered very important.
there are reports that another 15 or so hamas rapists operating on another unrwa site got their arseholes blown into outer space by the brave boys and girls of the IDF 👍
there are reports that another 15 or so hamas rapists operating on another unrwa site got their arseholes blown into outer space by the brave boys and girls of the IDF 👍
Although a small number of individual instances may have happened, I suspect the majority of claims of "organized rape" from both sides are just made up propaganda. I dont think going to this level of propaganda is necessary or productive.
Israel is within its rights to attack Hamas bases fronting as UNRWA "schools" regardless.
Ironically, Hamas actually had to admonish the propagandists to dial it back a couple notches at one point because when they initially wanted Palestinians to move back into Northern Gaza (to give them cover) there was a lot of resistance because of all the made-up anti Israeli propaganda.
as reported by most mainstream outlets, hamas consider the systematic rape of israeli jews to be an appropriate expression of resistance
so when reporters working for the guardian, to take one example of many, say that they have seen multiple pieces of corroborating evidence that hamas engaged in systematic rape on oct 7, what do you think is motivating them to lie about that?
