Israel/Palestine thread
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Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..
AM YISRAEL CHAI.
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Masih Alinejad is an amazing woman whom all Americans should hear.
Broken YouTube LinkYemen is a mess
Lebanon is a mess
Syria is chummy with the worst of them and is a launching ground for violence
Iraq is a mess
Gaza is a mess
It's almost like they have something in common. We talk about who is colonizing who, and we don't talk about this
Spoiler
THAT is the brutal expansionary colonizer of the region. Any denying of that is denying reality in the forms of 100 page reports from every respectable think tank across the spectrum in both Europe, the Middle East, and the Americas. It's not racist to talk about this issue.
https://www.samharris.org/podcasts/makin...
Yasmine Mohammed and Masih Alinejad are brilliant in this podcast (In 2023, TIME named Alinejad one of the Women of the Year).
In a few days I'll post some of the parts I thought were the most impactful coming from two women with the backgrounds they have. I encourage some of you to listen to it before I comment. Firstly, because it's a brilliant piece of content sure to enrich your lives. But also because we'll be able to have a more productive discussion. THIS issue from this thread fits right into it.
Bad news for the mass rape theorists:
and for team courageous IDF boys and girls doing brilliantly
All gone very quiet in here.
Disgusting abhorrent mess of a quasi-fascist country. Just send the UN in now ffs and take the politicians and army generals to The Hague.
I don't use UN sources to determine truth, but if you do at least don't lie about what they claim:
In relation to the attack of 7 October in Israel, the report found that the military wing of Hamas and six other Palestinian armed groups, are responsible for the war crimes of intentionally directing attacks against civilians, murder or wilful killing, torture, inhuman or cruel treatment, destroying or seizing the property of an adversary, outrages upon personal dignity, and taking hostages, including children.
The indiscriminate firing of thousands of projectiles towards Israeli towns and cities resulting in death and injury of civilians are also violations of international humanitarian and human rights law.
Members of Palestinian armed groups, in some instances aided by Palestinians in civilian clothing, deliberately killed, injured, tortured, took hostages, including children, and committed sexual and gender-based violence against civilians and against members of the Israeli Security Forces, some of whom were hors de combat and should not have been targeted.
The Commission identified patterns indicative of sexual violence and concluded that these were not isolated incidents but perpetrated in similar ways in several locations primarily against Israeli women.
What, the UN said something bad about Israel? That's shocking, there must be something behind this as they've been so fair and unbiased towards them in the past!
Blaming the UN for Israel's war crimes is quite the thing.
Just stop posting content from the squirrel twitter account and you will save yourself from embarass a lot
Based on testimonies & verified video footage & photographs, the Commission finds sexual violence has been perpetrated throughout the Occupied Palestinian Territories during evacuation processes, prior to or during arrest, at civilian homes and at a shelter for women & girls.
What was it I was accused of here? Rape denial was it?
Ridiculous statement. I'm not obeying your commands to condemn countries on your whim apropos of nothing.
How dare you accuse me of holding Israel to a standard no other country is held to?!!? And then criticize me when it’s clearly true.
You genocidal monster freak child killer supporter!!!
You were accused of denying that a lot of systematic rape happened on 10 7 (and later to hostages). You now posted a fake misinterpretation of actual UN findings.
The UN as per official UN link provided just confirmed rape happened on 10 7 not as isolated incidents but systematically (pattern)
all gone very quiet here
Jal you still haven't watched the documentary?
We've literally handed you the keys to being able to watch all the women give first hand accounts of their rape. And you won't watch it, while talking about the rape that didn't happen?
I honestly don't get that take. I don't mind you taking an informed position. But being informed means at least listening to the first hand account of so many victims that eventually it goes full Cosby.
Jal you still haven't watched the documentary?
We've literally handed you the keys to being able to watch all the women give first hand accounts of their rape. And you won't watch it, while talking about the rape that didn't happen?
I honestly don't get that take. I don't mind you taking an informed position. But being informed means at least listening to the first hand account of so many victims that eventually it goes full Cosby.
the UN report itself confirms the systematic raping of 10 7 against Israeli women.
If even hamas political allies and supporters in the UN don't deny it...
Hamas also faces serious accusations:
"The Commission identified patterns indicative of sexual violence and concluded that these were not isolated incidents but perpetrated in similar ways in several locations primarily against Israeli women."
I'm prepared to accept the findings that both the IDF and Hamas participated in apparently co-ordinated rape. Are the "brave IDF boys and girls are the most moral army in the world" team?
Hamas also faces serious accusations:
I'm prepared to accept the findings that both the IDF and Hamas participated in apparently co-ordinated rape. Are the "brave IDF boys and girls are the most moral army in the world" team?
yes so your previous source was lying disastrously
