The costs of trans visibility
Yesterday, Dylan Mulvaney broke her silence: https://www.tiktok.com/@dylanmulvaney/vi....
For context, this is a trans influencer who built a 10 million strong following on TikTok. She took a brand deal with budweiser to post an ad on an instagram, and the anti-trans right went absolutely ballistic, calling for a boycott, condemning the company, and to some perhaps unknowable degree it influenced that Budweiser sales dropped by a 1/4 and
. Dylan speaks more personally about the effect of the hatred on her.
What strikes me about this story is that it is just about visibility. This isn't inclusion in sports or gender-affirming care for minors, it was just that a trans person was visible. This wasn't even visibility in a TV commerical that a poor right-winger is forced to see, it was an ad on her own instagram page. We're all in our own social media algorithm influenced bubbles, but from my vantage point it really has seemed that in the last year or so things have just gotten worse for trans people and the backlash to even minor visibility is growing.
We need to do better.
This is a public warning that this is not a thread for expressing anti-gay or anti-trans sentiments. If you don't believe people should be gay or trans, don't post here. This thread is to be about policies and such with the assumption that trans people exist and that's ok.
This is a public warning that this is not a thread for expressing anti-gay or anti-trans sentiments. If you don't believe people should be gay or trans, don't post here. This thread is to be about policies and such with the assumption that trans people exist and that's ok.
how would one argue that trans people don't exist... I don't have a problem with gay people. Just because I don't agree with what someone does with their freedom doesn't mean I have a problem with them. If someone decides to stop being gay and starts being straight, I see that as +EV. I don't see how this is offensive
if you study the issue deeply enough, rather than debate it on forums where you are correct in saying that most people dont understand this issue, you will eventually realize transgender men are men and transgender women are women. Once you realize this, then your arguement seems trite,
In truth your argument is no different than any other discriminatory belief , but it’s only discriminatory because you dont believe the truth. You sound indistinguishable from any other person who will never acce
What is a man?
What is a woman?
What is masculine?
What is feminine?
Would it be possible for you to actually answer these questions without avoiding them and pretending like you didn't? So far we have a 100% success rate here
how would one argue that trans people don't exist... I don't have a problem with gay people. Just because I don't agree with what someone does with their freedom doesn't mean I have a problem with them. If someone decides to stop being gay and starts being straight, I see that as +EV. I don't see how this is offensive
I don't expect to convince you, but I wanted to be sure you knew where I was drawing the line.
That was my assumption because that's the way most people who believe in the Bible learned to do that.
If that was not true for you, please let me know how you became a rebel and decided to become a member of the largest religious group in the country and in the world.
Personally I grew up with that, and even went to 13 years of religious school, but I was not a sheep and questioned things, deciding that the rules made by some people who lived in the desert in the middle east 3000 years ago weren't necessarily the best ones for people living in the US today.
That was my assumption because that's the way most people who believe in the Bible learned to do that.
If that was not true for you, please let me know how you became a rebel and decided to become a member of the largest religious group in the country and in the world.
Personally I grew up with that, and even went to 13 years of religious school, but I was not a sheep and questioned things, deciding that the rules made by some people who lived in the desert in the middle east 3000 years ago weren'
I'll save my testimonial for another crowd. Which of the commandments and principles of Christianity do you agree and disagree with?
There are things like this, showing the phenomenon has roots in brain differences.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41386-0...
But that says TW brains differ from both male and female.
super interesting, thanks for sharing
I'll save my testimonial for another crowd. Which of the commandments and principles of Christianity do you agree and disagree with?
i'm really big on throwing your daughters to the crowd to be gang raped to stop them from banging a dude you don't even know - that's been a major pillar of my faith
sounds like you need to stop preaching and read the good book again since you obviously have no clue whatsoever what genuine passage i'm referencing
yeah and neither did chatGPT. it said you were off your rocker, which I agree with. I'm not going to crazy internet people to interpret the Bible for me
I'm sorry you made a fool of yourself with your rant. I forgive you and will pray for you
it's literally the most anti-gay section of the bible soon afterwards god smites sodom and gomorrah because they refused to gangbang his virgin daughters and wanted to bang two dudes instead - fact you use the bible as evidence that homosexuality is wrong yet never even read any of the actual passages on it to the point where you didn't even realize i was quoting scripture is telling that you're a fraud
They called to Lot, “Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them.”
6 Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him
7 and said, “No, my friends. Don’t do this wicked thing.
8 Look, I have two daughters who have never slept with a man. Let me bring them out to you, and you can do what you like with them. But don’t do anything to these men, for they have come under the protection of my roof.”
he later has sex with his own daughters after his wife is conveniently turned into salt
it's literally the most anti-gay section of the bible soon afterwards god smites sodom and gomorrah because they refused to gangbang his virgin daughters and wanted to bang two dudes instead - fact you use the bible as evidence that homosexuality is wrong yet never even read any of the actual passages on it to the point where you didn't even realize i was quoting scripture is telling that you're a fraud
he later has sex with his own daughters after his wife is conveniently turned into salt
this sounds familiar. I'm more of a New Testament guy.
since I want to remain unbanned for this exciting election year (til at least November) I will refrain from explaining my "thoughts on gays" and how you don't necessarily need Biblical texts to understand my logic behind (no pun intended) those thoughts
you have no thoughts though, that's what you don't even realize
you lean upon scripture that you never even read - you're just a soulless sheep
I'll save my testimonial for another crowd. Which of the commandments and principles of Christianity do you agree and disagree with?
The butthole pleasures thing is definitely one of them.
Most of the old testament is horrible, basically the god of the OT is a psychopathic dictator.
Jesus seems like he was a good guy, but I would have come up with the golden rule without him, and I don't need to worship him to follow his teachings anyway.
Belief in anything supernatural adds nothing to understanding of the world and just makes people hate others, as seen in the middle east today.
yeah and neither did chatGPT. it said you were off your rocker, which I agree with. I'm not going to crazy internet people to interpret the Bible for me
Funny, Google brought it up for me immediately.
I searched for "Bible story where man gave his daughters to the crowd"
First result:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lot%27s_....
this sounds familiar. I'm more of a New Testament guy.
since I want to remain unbanned for this exciting election year (til at least November) I will refrain from explaining my "thoughts on gays" and how you don't necessarily need Biblical texts to understand my logic behind (no pun intended) those thoughts
This is odd, since the Bible passages about homosexuality are mostly in the OT, and Jesus said nothing about it.
He was surprisingly cool with prostitutes and other sinners though, so I'm guessing he wouldn't have condemned them.
