Israel/Palestine thread

No not ok. Do I think cops exclusively arrested black people for smoking weed jn America? No.

Was what right?

Do I know how many got their sentences commuted? No idea what you’re talking about

We are talking about two different things.

You are arguing that a bias means that one side cannot be punished or restricted by the other.

So if Israel says the U.N. is biased against it, how does that mean the U.N. is only doing things out of bias? Where did that leap come from?

I teach my lesson at the beginning of class. I'm not changing any story. The UN can do whatever it wants, but if they are biased, they should not be taken seriously.

The fact that more than half the investigations in the un are against israel, they should have no power to sanction Israel and Israel is right to ignore their rulings

And it's not because Israel says it. It's because it's true

They're going to be a lot of mixed attitudes and obviously usa is on israels side. Still it seems reasonably clear that Netanyahu is the one who has to escalate while Biden is generally opposed but will put his reelection first. Netanyhau is playing him and he knows it.

I expect biden will keep reluctantly appeasing netanyhau to try to minimise trumps plays while tryng to prevent netanyahu going for it. I doubt it's possib;le - netanyahu has the cards unless israel get rid of him.

Israel does ignore their rulings.

and what if Israel just does more crimes than other countries?

Pw

I'm going to move on. I'm fairly certain you fully understand the analogies but I'm not playing this game

You changed your story twice so far. First you said they have to appear for 15 minutes. Now you’re saying you teach your lesson at the beginning of class? What’s that have to do with what you said previously?

Why do you think a bias means you can’t take anyone seriously?

You do realize that without showing someone who is unbiased, you have now said that nobody in the world should be taken seriously

Can you show me people who are unbiased?

So do you think they likely do 70% of the nation crimes of the world?

That's where this started

For the fourth time

The U.N. is saying that out of the reports they handle, Israel is responsible for 70% of those reports

Nobody is saying Israel is doing 70% of all countries crimes

You’re literally lying about something and then using that lie as logic for your other decisions.

Do you understand that you’re wrong? Are you lying or unaware? Can’t figure it out.

Yeah i get it. You thought i make them do the work and then i teach the lesson

I'm done

Congrats

you mean pre-Oct 7? bc post OCt 7 I dont think theres really a question.

but yes ofc. maintaining a military blockade on Gaza along with a military apartheid system in the West Bank is criminal in and of itself and requires further criminal acts to enforce.

Egregious demonstrations of the U.N.’s anti-Israel activities since October 7:
UNRWA — the U.N. agency dedicated solely to the Palestinians — supports and incites terror against Israelis. At least 12 UNRWA staffers were directly involved in Hamas’ October 7 attack, including murdering and kidnapping Israelis, and roughly 10 percent of UNRWA employees in Gaza have direct ties to Hamas. UNRWA employees also publicly glorified Hamas’ attacks and encouraged further executions of Israelis. UNRWA’s headquarters in Gaza was located above a half-mile-long tunnel network containing a Hamas intelligence and communications hub, drawing power from the U.N. facility.

U.N. Women failed to condemn the war crimes against Israeli women – until shamed into doing so. Under the leadership of Executive Director Sima Bahous, the former Jordanian Ambassador to the U.N., this U.N. body dedicated to championing women’s rights was completely silent on Hamas’ well-documented mass murder, rape, and torture of Israeli women and girls for two months after October 7.

U.N. Secretary-General Antonio Guterres singles out Israel for condemnation. Guterres invoked Article 99 of the U.N. Charter, which allows the secretary-general to bring any matter to the security council’s attention that he believes threatens international peace and security. In over three decades, the U.N. has only invoked this article to pressure Israel. Guterres also sought to justify Hamas’ attack, saying, “It is important to also recognize the attacks by Hamas did not happen in a vacuum. The Palestinian people have been subjected to 56 years of suffocating occupation.”

U.N. resolutions repeatedly fail to condemn Hamas. The U.N. General Assembly overwhelmingly passed resolutions on October 27 and December 13 calling for an immediate ceasefire that would leave Hamas armed and in power. The U.S. vetoed two Security Council resolutions that also called for an immediate ceasefire with Hamas. None of these resolutions condemned Hamas’ October 7 attacks, mentioned the terror group by name, or affirmed Israel’s right to self-defense.

The International Court of Justice indulges what the U.S. called “meritless, counterproductive” genocide charges against Israel. By agreeing to hear South Africa’s “genocide” case rather than dismissing it outright, the ICJ is giving legitimacy to South Africa’s outrageous, libelous and dangerous allegations.

Anti-Israel organizations are investigating the charges against UNRWA staff. At least two of the three organizations tasked with “investigating” UNRWA for employing terrorists have made anti-Israel statements or defended UNRWA. Leading the investigation is former French Foreign Minister Catherine Colona, who recently praised UNRWA’s work as “more useful than ever.”

U.N. officials justify Hamas’ October 7 attack and refuse to denounce terrorism. In response to French President Emanuel Macron’s statement that October 7 was the “biggest antisemitic massacre of our century,” U.N. Special Rapporteur Francesca Albanese justified Hamas’ attack by saying that “the victims of [October 7] were not killed because of their Judaism, but in response to Israel’s oppression.” U.N. Relief Chief Martin Griffiths said in a recent interview that, “Hamas is not a terrorist group for us, as you know, it is a political movement.”

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Tbh it seems like you have a bias against these students. You made an agreement and then you started adding new rules and stipulations, and then punished them for it.

Do you think that because of your bias, you should be ignored?

mets: your story was extremely clear and it's obvious you at no point changed the story.

I did show stats from 2022

Egypt has never been charged by the un of a blackface blockade on Gaza

Thank you
I apologize to the thread for getting sucked into his nonsense

the UNRWA stuff has been thoroughly debunked. it was proven to be a smear job to further gain control of Gaza and cause suffering.

I dont think Egypt maintains the blockade in the same way Israel does.

but it doesnt matter. they suck and should be criticized and sanctioned and "regime changed" simply bc they are all too happy to do the bidding of the USA (and Israel) wrt Gaza.

My point was they won't be criticized by the UN. they just put it all on Israel

The unrwa stuff has not been debunked

The fact that we have unrwa specifically for Palestinians tells a lot

pretty sure none of that has been proven anyway, just more baseless claims (aka lies) from flailing israel

and regardless, it's not justification for their genocide, or anything else they're doing

There is no genocide

There is a genocide.

All evidence and most of the people around the world agree, IDF is doing a genocide against Palestinians.

You know it’s true

Yup. All of the whattabout nonsense in the world doesn't justify the continuing slaughter, as any toddler could tell you.

can confirm NO GENOCIDE