Israel/Palestine thread

Israel/Palestine thread

Think this merits its own thread...

Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..

AM YISRAEL CHAI.

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by PointlessWords k

What part of the definition don’t they fit?

the genocide bit


by BOIDS k

if you are a bunch of terrorists trying not to get rekt, then do not fire off a bunch of rockets at a country that is backed to the hilt by the most powerful military in the history of civilisation

well if Gaza is any indication, its not the [strike]resistance fighters[/strike] "terrorists" that will be hit but rather a bunch of innocent people and mostly children.

but maybe the IDF figured out a way to take a way more advanced and prepared fortified tunnel system in the meantime.


by jalfrezi k

Israel is the malignant little guy with a big bully friend enabling him to act like a **** to all the people he doesn't like, and supported by sycophants the world over.

israel is indeed little. but sadly for you, not feeble 😀


the hez bigwigs keep getting obliterated by the IDF while travelling around, which makes me think they failed to steal enough aid money for good tunnels


I'd much rather it showed some strength of character in not refusing a state to Palestinians, but that seems to be too much to ask of the malignant little guy hanging around with his big bully friend.


Colonel Noam Ben-Zvi with his views on Gazans would fit well into this thread.


by jalfrezi k

Colonel Noam Ben-Zvi with his views on Gazans would fit well into this thread.

sinwar with his views on jews would also fit well

note that sinwar is the leader of the gazan people and not just some rando colonel dude


by BOIDS k

the hez bigwigs keep getting obliterated by the IDF while travelling around, which makes me think they failed to steal enough aid money for good tunnels

probably not a good calculation. hope we dont find out if you are correct tho.


https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/11/world...

here's the latest one. these big boys need to stop driving around and instead retreat to their fully automated luxury tunnels


by BOIDS k

actual genocides eg holocaust fit the definition of genocide, because they are genocides, whereas israel's war against hamas doesn't, becuase it isn't

by BOIDS k

the genocide bit

What definition of genocide are you using ? There are quite a few


wow, they killed one Hezbollah soldier. the army that celebrates martyrs surely wont be able to handle that.


by PointlessWords k

What definition of genocide are you using ? There are quite a few

the standard one

by Victor k

wow, they killed one Hezbollah soldier. the army that celebrates martyrs surely wont be able to handle that.

three in fact!


well I guess they should surrender if its 3 whole soldiers


by BOIDS k

sinwar with his views on jews would also fit well

note that sinwar is the leader of the gazan people and not just some rando colonel dude

Some random Colonel who can instruct his troops to mass slaughter thousands of children. Sounds a lot worse to me.


by PointlessWords k

What definition of genocide are you using ? There are quite a few

The one that can be back fitted to exclude mass slaughter of people you don't like, I guess.


by Victor k

well I guess they should surrender if its 3 whole soldiers

they should stop firing rockets off because it would be better for everyone, but i doubt their masters in tehran will allow it

by jalfrezi k

Some random Colonel who can instruct his troops to mass slaughter thousands of children. Sounds a lot worse to me.

okay but dont forget that colonel noam ben-wotsit ordering a mass slaughter of thousands of children is an invention which exists in your head, whereas sinwar ordering a mass slaughter and rape of thousands of civilians is a thing that actually happened irl


by BOIDS k

the standard one

three in fact!

The Oxford one?


Odd how many thousands of Gazan kids have suicided by blowing themselves up recently. That must be the explanation because slaughter-denial isn't a thing.


by BOIDS k

okay but dont forget that colonel noam ben-wotsit ordering a mass slaughter of thousands of children is an invention which exists in your head, whereas sinwar ordering a mass slaughter and rape of thousands of civilians is a thing that actually happened irl

Another "invention that exists in my head", just for you



the civilian casualties you speak of are a sad consequence of fighting a war against a bunch of terrorists who hide behind women and children

but it's a war which has to be fought, and won, because you cant live next door to people who rape and kill a thousand of your civilians and then promise that they will do it again but bigger


War crimes, wot war crimes? We were just trying to get him to hospital as fast as possible.


by jalfrezi k

Another "invention that exists in my head", just for you

that is a thing that happened, as separate from noah ben-gurion ordering thousands of children to be slaughtered, being an invention that exists in your head


by BOIDS k

because you cant live next door to people who rape and kill a thousand of your civilians and then promise that they will do it again but bigger

Well I quite agree. If I found myself living next door to a mass rapist and murderer I know what I'd do, and PDQ.


award him statehood?


by BOIDS k

okay but dont forget that colonel noam ben-wotsit ordering a mass slaughter of thousands of children is an invention which exists in your head, whereas sinwar ordering a mass slaughter and rape of thousands of civilians is a thing that actually happened irl

well that's a lie or an invention in your orange-shaped head, but since it's been determined that the only systematic sexual and gender-based crimes were committed by the iof ("either ordered or condoned"), i guess you're arguing that israel is fair game for being genocided? not sure i agree, but interesting

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