Israel/Palestine thread

Israel/Palestine thread

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Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..

AM YISRAEL CHAI.

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by rafiki k

There are 17 million food insecure people in Yemen. 2.2M of those are children. The full blown famine has only been averted thanks to international aid, and an entire 17M (soon 19M) are at "risk". IPC Phase 4 (humanitarian emergency) conditions exist all over the country. The number of people projected to reach that catastrophic IPC Phase 5 (famine) could increase 500% very shortly. In Yemen this is caused by civil war and external blockades.

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right. a great crime occurred in Yemen and is still occurring primarily bc of Saudi Arabia and the USA with an assist from the rest of the Western world including Israel.

and that doesnt absolve Israel for its crimes in Gaza.


by Victor k

right. a great crime occurred in Yemen and is still occurring primarily bc of Saudi Arabia and the USA with an assist from the rest of the Western world including Israel.

mmmm not mentioning the Iran proxy issue in there is sus....


by rafiki k

mmmm not mentioning the Iran proxy issue in there is sus....

I didnt realize Iran was blockading Yemen and bombing it from the air and sending mercenaries to murder civilians.


Israel reminds me of Hirohitos Japan

Massacre their neighbors and say it’s the will of god


Israeli media admission that they are shooting children looking for food. as we all knew ofc.


https://www.mavisrael.com/post/%D7%90%D7...


i wonder if the recent Israeli supreme court ruling will temper some of the bloodthirst from the far right in Israel now that they lose their immunity from serving.


by 5 south k

You said can Israelis have a protest and block a mosque. They definitely protest/antagonize other religions at their place of worship.
Is that a whatabout?

Where?


by PointlessWords k

Israel reminds me of Hirohitos Japan

Massacre their neighbors and say it’s the will of god

That's one of the worst analogies I've ever seen.


by rafiki k

from the IPC

https://www.ipcinfo.org/fileadmin/user_u...

Key findings
Following the publication of the second FRC report on 18 March 2024, which projected that a Famine
would occur in the most likely scenario, a number of important developments occurred. In contrast with the
assumptions made for the projection period (March – July 2024), the amount of food and non-food commodities
allowed into the northern governorates increase

Letting just enough food through to keep Gazans at the edge of famine frankly isn't much better. The math on how many calories Gazans need and how many calories have trickled in is pretty trivial and there cannot be any question that Gazans, as a group, ESPECIALLY if you think Hamas is stealing supplies, are on the edge of starvation and some are undoubtedly already starving with many more already severely malnourished.

And this level of suffering is just unnecessary and counterproductive to Israel's stated goal of eliminating Hamas.


yeah, they obviously don't actually care about their stated goals. their actual goals are very clearly the genocide/ethnic cleansing


by campfirewest k

That's one of the worst analogies I've ever seen.

It’s the second best one I could think of


by metsandfinsfan k

https://www.timesofisrael.com/violent-cl...

Pro Palestinian protesters blocking the entrance of a synagogue. Is that antisemitic? Can israelis have a protest and block a mosque? (They wouldn't imo)

Can israelis have a protest and block a mosque?


by 5 south k

Can israelis have a protest and block a mosque?

I would criticize it


by corpus vile k

Americans are always going on about "Europeans" despite there being 50 countries and cultures there and not all Europeans are white or Christian. In other news, You were saying something about big racist things?

What European countries are not ran/populated by predominately white people ?


the fault lines documentary has a lot more info about Hind. they have a recorded call where after hours of lying wounded in the car on the phone with Red Crescent dispatchers she tells them that she is bleeding from her mouth. the dispatcher says its ok honey just wipe it with your dress. she says, no I dont want to get my dress dirty it will upset my mom.

they then patch her mom into the call who tells the dying child that it is ok to wipe her blood with her dress.


cmon bro dont label it something that would get you banned

link the facts and call it reporting


by Victor k

the fault lines documentary has a lot more info about Hind. they have a recorded call where after hours of lying wounded in the car on the phone with Red Crescent dispatchers she tells them that she is bleeding from her mouth. the dispatcher says its ok honey just wipe it with your dress. she says, no I dont want to get my dress dirty it will upset my mom.

they then patch her mom into the call who tells the dying child that it is ok to wipe her blood with her dress.

this the one you're talking about?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECFpW5zo...
alt link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5yFa_q9...

just horrific war crimes against humanity top to bottom, aka:

by 72off k

their actual goals are very clearly the genocide/ethnic cleansing


its def rage bait


why you being self destructive, not a good habit


speaking of rage bait: after israel took 3 hours to approve the ambo to go pick her pick (she had been shot 3 times, bleeding out in a car full of dead family members), once it got there they blew it up, killing 2 paramedics, leaving her to die. and then they left them all there to rot for two weeks.

genocide joe brandon still has no problem with anything going on there, usa#1


they even sent the ambo a map of an approved route!


You're seriously comparing this to when I called your story about someone getting angry at a woman in a hijab in a pool in Texas rage bait?

Thinking these are at all comparable makes you look petty and silly. The fact that you are spamming it is an attempt to turn a girl's death into rage bait... for internet points...

You're using a girl's death to troll. Do better.


by Victor k

they even sent the ambo a map of an approved route!

just like the "safer" zones. tell people to go there, and then when all the fish are in a barrel, chuck a stick of dynamite in there


by Bluegrassplayer k

You're seriously comparing this to when I called your story about someone getting angry at a woman in a hijab in a pool in Texas rage bait?

Thinking these are at all comparable makes you look petty and silly. The fact that you are spamming it is an attempt to turn a girl's death into rage bait... for internet points...

You're using a girl's death to troll. Do better.

No reason to project your opinion into as hominem attacks

Just tell him it’s unacceptable to post rage stuff


That's ok. I'll call it how it is.

It's not an ad hominem.

You don't need to project your opinion onto every post I make btw.

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