2024 World Series of Poker May 28th to July 17th ***No Spoilers***
The 2024 WSOP will take place at Horseshoe Las Vegas and Paris Las Vegas from May 28 to July 17, 2024, with the Main Event running from July 3 to July 17. The Main Event – poker’s undisputed freezeout world championship – will have four starting days, beginning on Wednesday, July 3. Players may also register directly on Day 2.
That ignores the low-ballers getting staked, of which there are many, as well as satty entries and such.
Try again.
Not just the staked players and the satellite players but also the players who have been scrimping and saving for a decade or more to accumulate the $10,000 buy-in for their once in a lifetime shot at the Main.
It’s a very selfish out-of-touch take to not realize how lucky he and his ilk are to get to play in this year after year. Most people aren’t so fortunate and most will never run this deep again.
Wow, good catch... I never noticed his name in the chip counts. Did that ever get resolved? It appears some of it got paid off but clearly not all, or Kane would not have had to out him as a deadbeat. I had never heard of him until Doug Polk posted a video about him.
I know it's an unpopular opinion, but I'll restate the same thing I say about Chino Rheem: I actually DO like it when those guys score a big cash. It's pretty much the only real chance the creditors get made whole. Of course, there's a damn good chance O'Hara has very little of himself in this event, so I might be overly optimistic.
I respect coordi and nickmpk immensely but I disagree. If we assume rational actors or anything close to it texaskk’s comment makes no sense. But I am also from Texas and can confirm that for a lot of people in the main event 15k is life changing money. His comment is correct even though it shouldnt be.
It is absolutely rational to stall on the bubble if you have a short stack.
It might not be polite, but it's rational.
What exactly is the benefit in playing more hands on the bubble with a short stack, especially if you perceive yourself as -EV against other players at your table?
And the difference between mincashing and bubbling is indeed $15k, not $5k, as the $10k buy-in is a sunk cost you don't get back in you bust before the money.
They don't "make" 15000, they "make" 5000 and then have to pay taxes on it so like 3750 and then their expenses and etc.
I get that most people can't afford to just lose 10,000 dollars but maybe those are the people who shouldn't spend 10,000 dollars on a tournament where their best hope is to stall to a min cash that probably nets them nothing
Yeah, because if you aren’t rich enough to play, you shouldn’t play at all! Even though this is a dream tournament for many people and a bucket list item just to take a seat, screw those guys!
Wow. Idk why but a poker player using more water than Floyd Mayweather just seems insane to me.
I know people who take cold showers to conserve water and only flush #2.
Meanwhile the Sultan of Brunei is blowing through 13 million gallons a year on topiary structures for a vacation house in a desert.
Personal action if fine, but it's just a tiny drop in the bucket compared to rich whales like this, and that's probably a tiny drop in the bucket compared to what corporations are doing.
There's some stat like one trans-atlantic flight for one person (not the whole plane) burns more carbon than an entire village in a developing country will in a generation. Now imagine the private planes whisking billionaires all over the world on a whim.
Our grandkids will look back on this stuff the way we look back on slavery.
Thanks for the list, some decent names left in. Also found some others I remember like Kevin MacPhee and JC Alvarado
Players I am rooting positively for :
Phil Ivey
Antoine Saout
Tony Dunst
Kristen Foxen
Alex Livingston
Noah Boeken
Kevin MacPhee
Martin Finger
Players I am anti railing against :
Brian Rast
Maria Ho
Any scammer that appears (idk much about them but heard theres some still in?)
Anyone who acts like a douchebag/tool on the coverage thats yet to be unearthed.
Players I am interested in seeing on the feature table :
Adrian Mateos
Asian dude who 4bet w 72o preflop
JC Alvarado
Daniel Hachem
I hope the poker gods bless us with an Ivey/Lena900/Mateos feature table somehow
This is true. I know it’s not really possible anymore with the how much the field size has grown but when the Day 7 was strictly 27 down to 9, it was always the most epic day of the poker calendar.
But the last few years they’ve had to stop Day 6 with like 35 or more left reducing the elite feel of Day 7 a tad and also making it very hard to get to 9 in one day. Which is why they had to add in a Day 8 last year and this year. Last year’s playing from 15 down to 9 on Day 8 just didn’t hit the sam
Yes all true. The fields have got bigger and extra days are necessary. They could the extra day in before the 27 to 9 day though? I dont see why not. Then leave the new day 8 as a pure 27 down to 9.
I have some slight hope the poor decision for viewers to make it 15 down to 9 instead could be reversed as they did reverse one of the changes they made to the final table. Not so long ago they tried playing the final table out over 3 nights (lol) which was of course terrible. It got reverted back to over 2 nights pretty swiftly.
I hope the PokerGO coverage turns a corner today. It’s day 5 after all. They need to go back to the main stage, bring in the A team commentators. Make this thing feel like the Main. The last few days on the dark table and random commentators (not that they are bad but just not the voices of the Main Event) have made this feel like any tournament stream out there.
Not THE main event.
What do you have against Maria Ho? She seems like one of the most liked people in the poker world?
She promoted Ultimate Bet long after it was known they had cheated players and were withholding hand historys. People like Seebok got slammed for it but she gets a pass.
Thanks for the list, some decent names left in. Also found some others I remember like Kevin MacPhee and JC Alvarado
Players I am rooting positively for :
Phil Ivey
Antoine Saout
Tony Dunst
Kristen Foxen
Alex Livingston
Noah Boeken
Kevin MacPhee
Martin Finger
Players I am anti railing against :
Brian Rast
Maria Ho
Any scammer that appears (idk much about them but heard theres some still in?)
Anyone who acts like a douchebag/tool on the coverage thats yet to be unearthed.
Players I am interested in seeing on t
May I ask why you’re rooting against Maria Ho?
All the Day 5ers waking up, walking in feeling blissful af, still in the race with a shot at glory. However, there's a million and one ways it could go wrong at any moment.
Life is beautiful.
She promoted Ultimate Bet long after it was known they had cheated players and were withholding hand historys. People like Seebok got slammed for it but she gets a pass.
Interesting. I didn’t realize she had any ties to UB. That’s a bummer. I was hoping she would go deep but now I’m more neutral on her. I think having a woman make the final table would certainly be good for the game, though.
I hope the PokerGO coverage turns a corner today. It’s day 5 after all. They need to go back to the main stage, bring in the A team commentators. Make this thing feel like the Main. The last few days on the dark table and random commentators (not that they are bad but just not the voices of the Main Event) have made this feel like any tournament stream out there.
Not THE main event.
Right at the end yesterday I thought it started capturing the feel of THE main event like you say, was gutted when they cut the stream short yesterday.
Today they are going to the Thunderdome stage and its the A list commentator/presenter crew inc Ali and Nick on the night shift. Looking forward to it.
Yes all true. The fields have got bigger and extra days are necessary. They could the extra day in before the 27 to 9 day though? I dont see why not. Then leave the new day 8 as a pure 27 down to 9.
I have some slight hope the poor decision for viewers to make it 15 down to 9 instead could be reversed as they did reverse one of the changes they made to the final table. Not so long ago they tried playing the final table out over 3 nights (lol) which was of course terrible. It got reverted bac
Good idea actually. Make Day 6 and 7 slightly shorter, like 10 hour days. (Give the players a bit of a respite to) to set up Day 8 as the 27-9 day.
Last year Day 6 started with 149 and played down to 45. So instead of going down to 45, play 10 hours and get to 70-60 and then Day 7 would be down to the 27 hard stop instead of way to 15 or something. It would also make the Day 7 down to 27 a pretty epic day to.
Final three tables used to be a milestone also and it still should be.
Keep in mind this tournament is poker’s “Super Bowl” so I feel like there should be more effort from all parties to cater it to an entertainment perspective to make it the best product for fans as well.
I've been out of the poker loop for a while. Is the only way to watch the main event through a paid subscription to PokerGO?
I've been out of the poker loop for a while. Is the only way to watch the main event through a paid subscription to PokerGO?
Yeah, its worth it imo, the main coverage is very good usually. They do give some away for free on Youtube sometimes.
I buy an annual sub with the discount code but you can buy a monthly/weekly if you just want to watch the main. They have a lot of new high stakes poker in the archives as well if you liked that back in the day.
Yeah, its worth it imo, the main coverage is very good usually. They do give some away for free on Youtube sometimes.
I buy an annual sub with the discount code but you can buy a monthly/weekly if you just want to watch the main. They have a lot of new high stakes poker in the archives as well if you liked that back in the day.
I went for it with the $20 off for the year
What's the circular patch Ivey's wearing on the inside of his wrist? No clue, maybe some sort of pain relief?
I know people who take cold showers to conserve water and only flush #2.
Meanwhile the Sultan of Brunei is blowing through 13 million gallons a year on topiary structures for a vacation house in a desert.
A running faucet uses about 2 gallons/minute or 1 million gallons a year if running non stop. How the **** could someone use 10x that!?
F*** rast
s h i t , I'm about to get railed y'all, i got to work on my poster board with glue and glitter and dry macaroni noodles signs to hold up
It is absolutely rational to stall on the bubble if you have a short stack.
It might not be polite, but it's rational.
What exactly is the benefit in playing more hands on the bubble with a short stack, especially if you perceive yourself as -EV against other players at your table?
And the difference between mincashing and bubbling is indeed $15k, not $5k, as the $10k buy-in is a sunk cost you don't get back in you bust before the money.
This +1000.
Stalling with a short stack as the bubble approaches is strongly incentivized by tournament structure, to the point where if a short-stacked player does not stall close to the bubble, they are waving a flag saying "I have no idea of what I am doing."
Yes, it is objectively bad for the game, but the financial value of surviving into the money is a powerful incentive.
The problem is baked into the rules of the tournament. To solve the problem, one would have to change those rules, for example by putting the money bubble much earlier in the tournament, with initial payouts being a fraction of the buy-in. Other ways of reducing (not fixing) the problem include starting hand-for-hand play much earlier than is done presently, implementing a practical shot-clock system, penalizing excessive tanking (a really bad choice, IMO), and so on.
