2024 World Series of Poker May 28th to July 17th ***No Spoilers***
The 2024 WSOP will take place at Horseshoe Las Vegas and Paris Las Vegas from May 28 to July 17, 2024, with the Main Event running from July 3 to July 17. The Main Event – poker’s undisputed freezeout world championship – will have four starting days, beginning on Wednesday, July 3. Players may also register directly on Day 2.
That's irrelevant.
Little made a patently arrogant, uppity, condescending remark by basically saying $5,000 is chump change, when we all know it is significant money to most of our lives. While Little was working his ass off to build his poker business, many of those players were worked their ass off to buy their way into this tournament and dream of making anything.
That's it. It was offensive. And he should retract the statement.
If that really offended you, you shouldn't ever be online and should never ever leave your basement.
lmao @ losing a prop bet where you have to pay the other guy every time you see him for the rest of your life
That's irrelevant.
Little made a patently arrogant, uppity, condescending remark by basically saying $5,000 is chump change, when we all know it is significant money to most of our lives. While Little was working his ass off to build his poker business, many of those players were worked their ass off to buy their way into this tournament and dream of making anything.
That's it. It was offensive. And he should retract the statement.
OR
You can go through your life without looking for ways to be offended.
You know its very possible to get into the WSOP in ways that mean that both
A - 15k is pretty significant money for you
and
B - you arent wastefully throwing away 10k to play poker
can be true
sigh
obviously I realize this. I originally brought up satelliting in and being staked as reasons 15k could mean a lot . I know many people who took shots at various satelittes ranging from as cheap as $10 and up to $5,000 and ended up cashing for life changing money which is why I originally opined on the topic. Its a minor point to quibble but yes, I realize this.
It wasn't offensive but it was intentionally deceptive. Little knows that stalling is making short stacks money.
Brandon Cantu is doing quite well. Was going to say something here but not sure about spoiler timing.
This +1000.
To solve the problem, one would have to change those rules, for example by putting the money bubble much earlier in the tournament, with initial payouts being a fraction of the buy-in.
I've been saying this for a few years now, and I get excoriated every time as if I was a child predator or a serial killer or a Giants fan at an Eagles game. To me, there should be a "gradual bubble," such that each step of the way from the actual bubble boy to, say, $15K is a small increment.
So e.g. there could be a handful of places before the $15K mincash that pay out something like this:
$12,500
$10,000
$9,000
$8,000
$7,000
$6,000
$5,000
$4,250
$3,500
$3,000
$2,500
$2,000
$1,750
$1,500
$1,250
$1,000
In this example, we're talking about $78K or so pulled equally from the total prizes. Of course, that amount may vary, as I largely pulled these payout numbers out of my arse. Hell, the WSOP could foot $10K out of that $78K because they would no longer need to pay for the bubble boy's buy-in for the following year.
Alternatively, the WSOP could award tournament entries for next year's series to 10 places prior to the $15K min-cash: e.g. four to a $1K, two to a $1,500, two to a $2,500, one to a $5K, and one for the Main.
The overwhelming argument against either idea is that no player should cash in a tourney but still lose money overall. And while I agree in principle, my counter is that we're not talking about winning only $1K instead of the $15K for the current min-cash, it's the choice between getting $1K vs. $0.
The second argument against is always some version of "oh you millennials and your need to receive participation trophies" (which is funny given that I was born in 1972). But the purpose of this is not to create a consolation prize – I'm not trying to make a dozen or so people feel better – but rather to reduce the incentive to stall. It's the only event for which the WSOP would do this because it's the only event that has the combination of a high percentage of recs, a $10K buy-in and a massive overall field.
Anyway, there it is. And now I'll go out and blow-torch a litter of puppies in an effort to improve my reputation after this proposal.
Less fighting more cheering for IVEY! 😉
cantu is backed by hellmuth. Anything he wins is going to phil lol. Dude is dead broke.
Huge hand between Berry and Mateos here. Berry is a big time Oklahoma crusher btw
What a fold from Mateos
Wow what a sick fold
Mateos had enough chips to throw that away. Hard to call that deep when you're gonna face a huge river shove too.
I don't usually get excited about folds, but that was an amazing read.
The print is in the fold, as the kids say.
It wasn't offensive but it was intentionally deceptive. Little knows that stalling is making short stacks money.
He posted on twitter that short stacks should be stalling and big stacks should be calling the clock. Basically both sides should be doing what their incentives are aligned to, regardless of norms and manners.
Sure. But being able to have a floor at your table all the time is a privileged poker thing as well. Floors can't cover every table stalling.
I know no spoilers but when appropriate can someone post the mateos fold HH?
Yeah and nobody else there worked hard to scrape together the buy-in for the Main.
Perhaps fortunate is a better word than lucky but you seem to be missing the point - it’s just a big tournament for the people who play every year while it’s sometimes a lifelong dream for others who bought in. If those people want to use their time to cash because of what it means to them, they shouldn’t be berated by the wealthy for doing so.
You can’t welcome “dead money” into the tournament and sell the dream t
the key word was lucky in my reply to you
In terms of raw skill, out of the remaining players, seems like Ivey, Mateos, Song, Lonis, are the top ones.
In the past it has been clarified that "no spoilers" only applies up to the point its aired on Pokergo, after that its fair game to be posted. I'm not a mod though.
Only from memory so apologies if its not entirely accurate but they were the two chip leaders at the table with about 4.7m each effective to start the hand. Stream action started on the flop with 1.4m in the middle . AA had 4 bet pre and bet the Q42 flop which had a diamond draw. KK called. T non diamond turn and AA led with another bet and Mateos with KK tank folded.
I've been saying this for a few years now, and I get excoriated every time as if I was a child predator or a serial killer or a Giants fan at an Eagles game. To me, there should be a "gradual bubble," such that each step of the way from the actual bubble boy to, say, $15K is a small increment.
So e.g. there could be a handful of places before the $15K mincash that pay out something like this:
$12,500
$10,000
$9,000
$8,000
$7,000
$6,000
$5,000
$4,250
$3,500
$3,000
$2,500
$2,000
$1,750
$1,500
$1,250
$1,000
In this
I’m in complete support of a much more graduated “bubble” where the actual mincash is much less than the buy-in for tournaments in general, not just the ME. But it seems like this idea offends most tournament players for some reason.
ahhh damn the Twitch high seas stream finally got killed
