2024 World Series of Poker May 28th to July 17th ***No Spoilers***
The 2024 WSOP will take place at Horseshoe Las Vegas and Paris Las Vegas from May 28 to July 17, 2024, with the Main Event running from July 3 to July 17. The Main Event – poker’s undisputed freezeout world championship – will have four starting days, beginning on Wednesday, July 3. Players may also register directly on Day 2.
Ivey on one feature table and Mateos on the other.
This +1000.
Stalling with a short stack as the bubble approaches is strongly incentivized by tournament structure, to the point where if a short-stacked player does not stall close to the bubble, they are waving a flag saying "I have no idea of what I am doing."
Yes, it is objectively bad for the game, but the financial value of surviving into the money is a powerful incentive.
The problem is baked into the rules of the tournament. To solve the problem, one would have to change those rules, for ex
What NickMPK wrote is true. However, I just want to point out, that since during a previous engagement that was unenjoyable for all parties everyone went on a wild tangent about race and ethnicity despite me not mentioning race or ethnicity once, when I referenced rational actors I was not referring to players actions in regards to icm. Of course, all serious players have been using calculators like icmizer for 10 years.
What I meant by rational actors is that no one should be playing a 10k tournament if 15k is life changing money. Period. actually if your roll is less than 200k usd I strongly suggest not playing in vegas, let alone the wsop, because there are so many much softer places to play and or better ways to get to 200k. Unfortunately, many people find themselves in high variance 10k tournaments where a min cash is life changing money regardless, so texaskk was correct.
I just wanted to correct the misunderstanding.
As for cures I think they are worse than the disease. I think the bubble should just stay an annoying process but am open to good ideas there, the kind of ideas you are expressing.
*** the haters, great to have Norm back on the main coverage
We are all cheering for Ivey I hope! 😉 Right? Please? I am so nervous lol
I tuned just in time to see
Spoiler
Ivey almost get a double or from a set
Followed by
Spoiler
Knocking 2 dudes out with KK
Gonna be a good day lol
Ivey, Ivey, Ivey!
YAY!!!! IVEY IVEY IVEY!
After seeing that promo for HSP, I can say with confidence I will not be renewing my sub.
Dmoongirl still in nice, never noticed her in the chip counts
They don't "make" 15000, they "make" 5000 and then have to pay taxes on it so like 3750 and then their expenses and etc.
I get that most people can't afford to just lose 10,000 dollars but maybe those are the people who shouldn't spend 10,000 dollars on a tournament where their best hope is to stall to a min cash that probably nets them nothing
well said
if Ivey FTs this event Jbouton might be right
Is there a notable name w/ any online SN list somewhere?
It’s a very selfish out-of-touch take to not realize how lucky he and his ilk are to get to play in this year after year. Most people aren’t so fortunate and most will never run this deep again.
lucky? Little has worked his ass off to create a business and carve out a significant percentage of the NLHE instructional sector
Have you had a chance to check it out yet? It really is some of the best quality poker stuff on YouTube. Interested in hearing your thoughts when you get a chance.
No the videos are a bit long so I havent gotten around to it yet. But Im going to watch them for sure, theres a lack of good tournament videos imo outside of Bencb
Stu Ungar stories! See, you don't get that from the kids.
Was it accurate though? I think he left out some important details.
lucky? Little has worked his ass off to create a business and carve out a significant percentage of the NLHE instructional sector
Yeah and nobody else there worked hard to scrape together the buy-in for the Main.
Perhaps fortunate is a better word than lucky but you seem to be missing the point - it’s just a big tournament for the people who play every year while it’s sometimes a lifelong dream for others who bought in. If those people want to use their time to cash because of what it means to them, they shouldn’t be berated by the wealthy for doing so.
You can’t welcome “dead money” into the tournament and sell the dream to amateurs then complain that they take some extra time on the bubble to make the best of their opportunity. That’s selfish.
lucky? Little has worked his ass off to create a business and carve out a significant percentage of the NLHE instructional sector
That's irrelevant.
Little made a patently arrogant, uppity, condescending remark by basically saying $5,000 is chump change, when we all know it is significant money to most of our lives. While Little was working his ass off to build his poker business, many of those players were worked their ass off to buy their way into this tournament and dream of making anything.
That's it. It was offensive. And he should retract the statement.
What NickMPK wrote is true. However, I just want to point out, that since during a previous engagement that was unenjoyable for all parties everyone went on a wild tangent about race and ethnicity despite me not mentioning race or ethnicity once, when I referenced rational actors I was not referring to players actions in regards to icm. Of course, all serious players have been using calculators like icmizer for 10 years.
What I meant by rational actors is that no one should be playing a 10k tou
You know its very possible to get into the WSOP in ways that mean that both
A - 15k is pretty significant money for you
and
B - you arent wastefully throwing away 10k to play poker
can be true
He should not retract the statement lol. But it was still a pretty dumb and tone deaf statement.
