Talk About Movies: Part 4

Talk About Movies: Part 4

Somehow threads merged, so here's part 4 of our ongoing movie discussion.

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I will going to see Longlegs very soon.

I can't imagine someone seeing Arrival and not realizing it's a great film.


by razorbacker k

The Speedway Murders - Documentary about the 1978 Burger Chef murders where 4 teens were killed and the case is still unsolved. Very well done and maybe it’s been done before but they use the actors of the victims to re-enact but also break down the different theories about what happened to them. It’s out as a rental on Prime.

I love true crime and gobble it all up but am completely turned off by re-enactments to the point I won’t even watch it if it has them. No idea why.


by TheOneWhoYawns k

I love true crime and gobble it all up but am completely turned off by re-enactments to the point I won’t even watch it if it has them. No idea why.

This is different in a great way. This is actors playing the characters of the victims, talking about what they are going to do later that night. Then they talk about the various potential murderers the police looked into. They break the 4th wall at times. It was innovative and made you feel like you knew the victims. They never really re-enact the crime. You may still hate it, but I’ve never seen it done this way before


by razorbacker k

This is different in a great way. This is actors playing the characters of the victims, talking about what they are going to do later that night. Then they talk about the various potential murderers the police looked into. They break the 4th wall at times. It was innovative and made you feel like you knew the victims. They never really re-enact the crime. You may still hate it, but I’ve never seen it done this way before

Interesting. I’ll check it out then, thanks


by rickroll k

nah, was an emo movie about a woman failing to talk to squid while in the midst of baby fever thinking of her unborn children she suddenly discovers she knows chinese and that saves humanity for unknown reasons

I think you may have missed something along the way. She already knew Mandarin. She needed to learn the alien language.

It took the discovery of the Rosetta Stone to decipher hieroglyphics, which experts were attempting to do for years.

So while I do find the movie emotional, I also like the technical stuff, such as the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis, which, by the way, doesn't hold up (glad you asked) as Louise points out.

But, hey, if we all thought the same way, the world would be a boring place. Disagreement is a good thing.

The only quibble I have with the film is that geo-political stuff. But it's only a small quibble.

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by John Cole k

The only quibble I have with the film is that geo-political stuff. But it's only a small quibble.

so only the major plot point and central climax of the film were bad, got it 😀

love you john, but that movie is trash


King Vidor's Street Scene... I had never seen this work before, but it is fairly easy to see the influence on Woody Allen's Manhattan even though the stories are very different.

this movie illustrates a 'simple people's' way of life in New York city in 1930... and the flowering idealist desire to 'get out' of the circle of disrepair of the inner city.

Ultimately there is no happy ending, no idealized Hollywood story but a story of pain and sacrifice... and through that pain we achieve strength.

This movie has all the hallmarks of the issues in today's modern society... even if it was made nearly 90 years ago

Staring an absolutely stunning Sylvia Sydney as the flowering idealist, in a roll she was made for.



by rickroll k

nah, was an emo movie about a woman failing to talk to squid while in the midst of baby fever thinking of her unborn children she suddenly discovers she knows chinese and that saves humanity for unknown reasons

this made me chuckle... 😃


by Zeno k

Chance channels Jesus in that last sequence. It’s both disturbing and interesting at the same time. Great ending!

It's interesting and odd, maybe confusing, but why do you guys find it disturbing?

The only part of the movie I found disturbing was the possibility of a simpleton becoming president, but now we know the country can survive that.


by Dominic k

I will going to see Longlegs very soon.

I can't imagine someone seeing Arrival and not realizing it's a great film.

I thought it was good, but not great.
I was pretty confused by the ending and had to read about it later to learn the generally accepted interpretation.

Then I was just angry at the main character for making the horribly cruel / selfish decision to subject two other people to years of pain and suffering.


by biggerboat k

Synecdoche, New York I was just browsing through my recorded movies and saw this. Never heard of it. It had Philip Seymour Hoffman so I thought it might be interesting.

When the opening credits began, it listed Charlie Kaufman as writer/director. Then I knew it would be interesting.

Interesting it was.

I'm struggling to come up with words to describe the plot, so I won't even try.

I'm guessing every person that watches this has a different interpretation of what it is about. My take was tha

I'm not convinced Kaufman could tell you what it was really about.
not that that's a requirement for it to be a good film but its like Mulholland drive i remember being at CAL n just rolling my eyes when I would overhear ppl pretending to totally understand that movie.

by John Cole k

Arrival, directed by Denis Villeneuve, is one of my favorite films of the past ten years. It's based on "The Story of Your Life" by Ted Chaing. (The story is available as a PDF online.)

The best films touch us in ways that sometimes are difficult to explain, but this one, despite its complex narrative, is hard to explain although it will touch each of us in different ways.

Basically, the story is about a linguist who is recruited to translate the "language" of aliens who have landed in 12 spots

the one thing about arrival and other films where strange extra terrestrial creatures show up in spaceships that I just cannot get past is trying to picture these alien creatures sitting around learning the math and physics necessary for space travel and physically building the space ships.

come on pls tell me how the creatures in arrival possibly constructed those ships??

I mean I can accept that the aliens are just "born" with the knowledge necessary but how are they physically constructing the ships with those squid appendages?


They might say the same for us. How do those humans build stuff with such small hands and no knowledge of the future?

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We have opposable digits, giving us high levels of manual dexterity.


by jalfrezi k

We have opposable digits, giving us high levels of manual dexterity.

All their digits might be opposable. [emoji23]

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by MSchu18 k

King Vidor's Street Scene...

Staring an absolutely stunning Sylvia Sydney as the flowering idealist, in a roll she was made for.


Just in case you don't know who Sylvia Sydney is... she was also in Beetlejuice



I needed to watch a comedy, so last night was You Can't Take It With You, directed by Frank Capra, starring Jimmy Stewart, Jean Arthur, Lionel Barrymore.

As with many of these comedies, the plot is simple. The son of an uptight bank president wants to marry his secretary, but she comes from an oddball family, to say the least. Grandpa, played wonderfully by Lionel Barrymore, had his extended family living with him. He gave up his job 25 years earlier to live life the way he wants. He has also recruited a couple other people who work on fireworks and another who just makes stuff.

The stodgy parents are invited to the home to meet the family. The son, though, has brought them the night before so they can see the family in their true element. Of course, everything goes awry.

This won best picture in 1938. It's a film, much like Its a Wonderful Life, that explores the value of friendship. It's set during the Depression without really referring to the Depression.

I loved this film, especially the performance of Lionel Barrymore, who played the evil banker in It's a Wonderful Life, playing a completely different character. Capra fills his frame with tons of people. The film is a celebration of friendship and community.

See it. It is wonderful.

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You Can't Take It With You is a charming life-affirming movie. In some ways I prefer it to It's a Wonderful Life.

I'm going noir tonight when I watch Criss Cross, taping it off my mom's TCM set-up. Have always loved me some Yvonne De Carlo, pharoah's girl. Still pretty when she was old and monstrous! (munstrous?) Will report back.


by riverboatking k

I'm not convinced Kaufman could tell you what it was really about.
not that that's a requirement for it to be a good film but its like Mulholland drive i remember being at CAL n just rolling my eyes when I would overhear ppl pretending to totally understand that movie.

the one thing about arrival and other films where strange extra terrestrial creatures show up in spaceships that I just cannot get past is trying to picture these alien creatures sitting around learning the math and physics necessar

The way I try to approach this stuff is to look at every day tech now and picture yourself trying to comprehend it from even 100 years ago. We always think we know everything but if a civilization out there were a million years older than we are they would have tech we’d never be able to dream of


by John Cole k

I needed to watch a comedy, so last night was You Can't Take It With You, directed by Frank Capra, starring Jimmy Stewart, Jean Arthur, Lionel Barrymore.

As with many of these comedies, the plot is simple. The son of an uptight bank president wants to marry his secretary, but she comes from an oddball family, to say the least. Grandpa, played wonderfully by Lionel Barrymore, had his extended family living with him. He gave up his job 25 years earlier to live life the way he wants. He has also re

FYP


by John Cole k

I'm thinking that Chance spoke in parables and walks on water, it seems, in that last shot.

I feel it is relatively easy to see the allegory of a savior figure, but I think there is something going on that is much deeper.

Saying he's a 'Jesus figure' is just not satisfying for me, I need more.


Currently in Magoffin County, KY.

Apropos of nothing. Just trying to move the plot forward.


by MSchu18 k

I feel it is relatively easy to see the allegory of a savior figure, but I think there is something going on that is much deeper.

Saying he's a 'Jesus figure' is just not satisfying for me, I need more.

I'm just not sure what to add. Maybe he's walking away because he's figured out what's happening to him or maybe he wants to drown himself but changed his mind or maybe it's the plants and trees that seem dead to him or maybe it's that he has lost his only friend in the world.

I like open-ended films and literature. Some things are beyond our knowing. We should be able to live with that.

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maybe it's an allegory for 'god' turning his back on us... giving up... walking away.


by golddog k

Currently in Magoffin County, KY.

Apropos of nothing. Just trying to move the plot forward.

Lolll


I haven't seen the movie since it came out, but I thought it was a Divine comment on the insignificance of human endeavors, and the filmmaker's comment on the banality of the Divine.

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