Who has to show first?

Who has to show first?

I’ve been playing poker for 49 years and always thought the last aggressor had to show first at showdown. Last night, on the turn, I checked, and V on the button bet. I called. I checked the river and v checked back. I was waiting for V as the last aggressor to show. Dealer said I have to show first because V’s check back on the river is like calling my bet of nothing.

24 July 2024 at 11:37 PM
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by plaaynde k

OK, at least the dealer or anybody else doesn't have to bother with the order. I read tda, problem with retrieving half mucked cards do we not have either. But forced face up only at all in looks to be the norm at least in the US.

You could simply defer to those of us who are in the US.


Good grief just turn over your hand or muck it at showdown. Nothing more annoying and unnecessary than these “showdown standoffs”. Wasting everyone’s time. The info your opponents gain is so trivial. Are you embarrassed you were bluffing or missed your draw? Fire it into the muck. 49 years playing and you’re still a rules nit. SMH


All Maryland rooms it's closest to SB in order

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by Mr Rick k

I have always been amazed that the dealers at casinos I play in don't do what you do.

But I think they don't do it because they want to make sure everybody will tip them when they win hands.

No one has ever got upset with me for that.
If they question it I calmly say,
"They called you." or explain "We go by position here".


by albedoa k

You could simply defer to those of us who are in the US.

True. The best reference.

Last time a reg had to show a really shitty hand, did it without hesitation. But those are the rules in place at the casino of Finland. Pros and cons.


by Mr Rick k

But I think they don't do it because they want to make sure everybody will tip them when they win hands.

If I lost all of my fingers in a fireworks accident I could still use my hands to count all the times somebody got upset with me for prompting them to show their cards at showdown.


I say they should let them have a gunfight for a mexican standoff.



by answer20 k

Shoot, check-raising used to be against the rules in our Charity Rooms here in Michigan!

Check raising used to be against the rules in a lot of places and was seen as a scummy thing to do. "Dont try to trick me, just bet your hand"

Horseshoe casino in Tunica, MS still has "Check raises are allowed" on the Poker Rules posted on the wall. So clearly there was a time when it wasnt allowed.


I've never played in a room where last aggressor on a previous street mattered but have met a few random regs who think that is the rule.

Always seems weird to me people have such different experiences.


by pwnsall k

I've never played in a room where last aggressor on a previous street mattered but have met a few random regs who think that is the rule.

Always seems weird to me people have such different experiences.

GNLC. All the dealers use that procedure. They all will swear it is like that everywhere. Ofc most have never dealt in another city, so how would they know. They claim the house rules state this though when I asked to see the rules, I was refused.

Being the prick I can choose to be sometimes, when I have time I am going to ask gaming (state police here) how I can see the rules and do so. I really doubt it is in their rules as such.

These same dealers swear that in a dead button game, the button must move forward. When ask them then what is a forward moving button rule, they either never heard of such or claim that is the rule they are following.


by ledn k

Check raising used to be against the rules in a lot of places and was seen as a scummy thing to do. "Dont try to trick me, just bet your hand"

Horseshoe casino in Tunica, MS still has "Check raises are allowed" on the Poker Rules posted on the wall. So clearly there was a time when it wasnt allowed.

Any room where I have ever noticed rules being posted have had that rule included, even ones which were pretty new. I think it's just a common thing to post and doesn't mean there was previously a rule against it in that particular room.

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