The liberal media and the police Killing of Sonya Massey

There are replies to that twitter post saying it might be fake, and I'm tempted to agree because I'm just not seeing anything like that while watching the youtube video at 0.25x speed. There are just no frames I can catch in the youtube video that correspond to what that twitter account posted. If you can see them, post them here.

There just isn't time for her to pick up the pot. Her hands do not move to pick up the pot. It magically teleports itself from the counter into her hands in the twitter version of the video. I say fake.

Edit: Actually, I just watched the youtube video again several times and I think I'm seeing it. It's tough to catch, but it's there. There are a couple of frames where I think I can see the pot in her hands.

It's a bad shooting either way.

^^Just edited my post, I think I see it too now.

Ok, so some thoughts.

Now that I can see that she was indeed throwing the water I can at least see where you're coming from. Your original contention that this was clear as day is disingenuous, since you have to slow the video down to 0.25x to catch the one or two frames where this is visible, but I agree that it's there.

I still agree with other posters ITT who say the cop is completely at fault here for escalating the situation, and that she was acting instinctively in self defense. The cop did not need to draw his gun and escalate the situation. There is absolutely no indication that she was any threat to him before he did so.

There is no basis for your contention that she lured the cops to the house with the goal of causing them harm, at least none that you've shown here. This appears to be pure speculation to create a narrative that the shooting was somehow justified.

All in all, obviously a poorly trained/trigger happy cop who ****ed up royally and is probably going to get at least 10 years to sit down and think about what he should have done differently. The idea that he is victimised by the media or that he is going to see a penny from suing for negative press in this case is laughable. 10 years is his best case scenario here.

Ya know, I dont know is ShttsWeak is going to make a good attorney for the cop given the latest interactions

I'd at least prefer the media report accurately on her intentions.

dont wanna be the attorney. I wanna be the big mouth getting people's attention about something that shouldnt be overlooked.

If you're standing at your kitchen countertop chopping tomatoes and I pull a gun on you and you lunge at me with the knife, it's going to be tough for me to cry self defense if I shoot you.

We don't know her intentions, so they're impossible to report on accurately. We can infer something about her intentions though, which is that she posed no threat until he pulled the gun. You can't use her actions after he pulled a gun on her to make inferences about her intentions before he pulled the gun on her. I would have hoped this was blindingly obvious.

See I don't get how you can see her throwing the pot and also believe it was not her intention to begin with. I think the 2 nanoseconds it took her to do it indicates that was her intentions all along.

Well, everyone here disagrees with you, and I expect the jury will too if he uses this laughable defense. You honestly don't understand how having a gun pulled on you might tend to make you act in a different way to how you were planning on going about your day? lol

Fwiw, I saw the pot throw without slowing down the video; I just think it’s meaningless.

Yes, she threw the pot in a surge of adrenaline in defense of having guns suddenly in her face. No premeditation.

The cops told her to move the pot from what I've read

Given that, it seems lucky that her intention married closely with the cops orders if your contention is correct ShttsWeak

this is almost comical.

If you have a knife on you, I pull a gun on you, and you lunge at me with the knife, was it always your intention to stab me?

this is comical. It reminds of all the COPS episodes where people go on high speed chases that end in wrecks and they're excuse is always "I was scared"

Well according to the report on CNN she walked over to a pot of boiling water and muttered some nonsense about Jesus and picked up a pot of boiling AND THEN the officer drew his gun - not going to analyze the video as I don't care enough. I don't see what cops are supposed to do differently - they risk their lives every time in these situations, and if they're passive with their reaction they won't be coming home alive - all it takes is one time. I also think people need to be held accountable for their actions - she went to pick up the pot - they told her to drop it - she picks it up and says im sorry before making an attempt to attack the officers. She was obviously mentally ill - would be nice if we could get through to these people but she brought this on herself. When you do dumb **** you get dumb results. Unfortunately where society is these days he's going to get time behind bars - would love to see all you nerds make split second decisions like this and not end up dead or killing someone.

This is not a thing that happened.

So you are saying their intention was always to go on a high speed chase? If not, I fail to see the relevance of this analogy. Remember, you are not arguing that she caused herself to be shot by throwing the water. You are arguing that she was always intending to throw the water, hence your beef with the press coverage.

Considering that the only person who agrees with you ITT is you (except one guy who just showed up and hasn't even seen the video - we know how important it is to watch the video before drawing conclusions), you might want to rethink who has the comical take here.

she called the cops to report someone trying to enter her home. The cops should have been doing a perimeter check and not engaging the reporting party inside the residence. She should not have picked up a pot of boiling water and the cops should not have shot her in the face.

The few times I had to interact with law enforcement during an emergency I refused to enter any dwelling, nothing in there that was my business.

OP, all else being equal and rather than a cop in the video, it's a civilian. Still a justified shooting?

Do you agree with me that the officers could have retreated with effectively no risk of injury, much less grave injury?

Would you go so far as to say that this video looks like good (or at least adequate) policing to you?

Don't bring boiling water to a gun fight. If someone pulls a gun on you you need a gun.

Kinda completely irrelevant to my point.