British Politics

Maybe all asylum seekers should be rehoused in London if that's the case.

But yes, the government routinely punting asylum seekers as far away from them as possible while providing little/no plan for integration is a big part of the problem.

The last time round was about police violence on people of colour.

As the capital city London decades ago lready went through changes in demographics that the parts of the country now in revolt are struggling with to some degree.

Wheee I live is about 50% white 50% people of colour and there are no discernible racial tensions at all.

Some, notably in the East End, didn’t want to or were incapable of adapting to living alongside immigrants and moved to Essex, which is partly why that county has so many Brexiteering racists ( I worked there for some time in the 90s) but most adapted and now most Londoners have good relations with first or second genrqtion immigrant neighbours, friends and family members, and it would be a huge strategic error on the part of the fash to start one of their protest riots here, except perhaps in one of their small strongholds in SE London.

As for the rest of England…they need to go through the same growing pains as Londoners did, and also identify that the cause of the downturn in their lives and communities is nothing to do with immigrants and everything to do with malignant government servicing the needs of the billionaire class, which unfortunately will continue under the quisling Starmer.

by Elrazor k

Might be because asylum seekers are routinely sent to less affluent parts of the UK.

https://www.gov.uk/asylum-support/what-youll-get

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This is an excuse. Many thousands of Bangladeshis came to London, as did a large number of Vietnamese boat people and people from Africa and other parts of Asia.

The problem isn’t them, it’s you. Deal with your racism and become a better person.

The country is only a pile of **** because too many people are a pile of ****, mainly in the non metropolitan provinces.

City dwellers are generally fine here.

The blame is definitely who you say it is

But the cause of recent issues is immigration & how its been managed, nd i think its important to recognise that otherwise ppl wont fix things properly

A turner from Nottingham probably has more in common with a turner from Poland than he does with a stockbroker from Surrey. This after all was the idea behind the guilds.

People have to start looking for commonalities, not differences.

Andrew Tate, one of the worst people around in the alt-right sphere, going word for word like Chezlaw and Jalfrezi are in this thread about the protests, claiming it's poors vs poors, and that the poor white people have more in common with poor immigrants than they have with the governing elite which destroyed their lives and so on.

https://x.com/BGatesIsaPyscho/status/182...

Time to review your priors or to self-identify as alt-right yourself i guess

whats a turner???

but also - gentrification causes a multitude of issues....which is when the stockbrokers move in and take over the turners (hope I used term right) communities.

Bringing in different people, different values, different values, and different demands on the community & public services is always disruptive whoever is coming in. and If you deliberately do it i.e. with immigration, without managing those changes, you will only exacerbate this

blue collar manufacturing job, making metal stuff

Andrew Tate is a very confused and very bad person. How he can rail against the exploitation of people when he’s charged with the sex exploitation of young Romanian girls is staggering but says a lot about his self awareness.

Like a lot of confused people he’s occasionally right about some things while simultaneously being horribly wrong about other things.

It's not really.

Latest census data I can see has us as 93% white british compared to 81% in England. Outside of Glasgow and Edinburgh I don't think there is really any immigrant communities of size.

A woodworker or carpenter. Just cited as an example of a skilled manual worker.

I don’t disagree with what you’re saying. The level of immigration is high and there does have to be support for people coming in to help them integrate, which I see very little of, as well as policies explained clearly to everyone.

But people should remember that immigration means a large boost to tax revenues and they should direct their anger at those responsible for collecting and distributing taxes.

The problem is that too many ordinary people have been radicalised by the far right wing media and now social media by their incessant IMMIGRANTS ATE MY HAMSTER stories.

70% of the people arrested already have criminal records, mostly for acts of violence, belying the right wing claim that the riots were the inevitable result of normal everyday people driven to the brink by immigration.

I'm the world's worst professional criminologist, but I would be interested to know what the base rate for this is - i.e. how many people that are arrested at all have criminal records? About 20% of the the country has a criminal record, so I'd imagine it's high.

It would be interesting. You're the criminologist, you tell us.

I wasn't joking when I said I was the world's worst. A quick google didn't yield anything.

How many of those 20% are for trivial things like non payment of the BBC licence fee?

What's the definition of criminal record in the UK? in Italy it would be having a guilty verdict for a crime, but i guess it's different in the UK if 20% of the population has a criminal record.

According to the HoC Library:

Apparently there are about 40k license fee convictions per year out of about 1 million in total

ah ok so you get arrested by police, nothing happens afterwards (ie, the arrest wasn't warranted?), you get a criminal record in the UK? weird; and not paying tv license fee is a criminal offense? even weirded

but i checked Jalfrezi claim about 20% having a criminal record and i found the same number (and shockingly, 1 in 3 adult men!!!), what are they getting a criminal record for then?

That wasn’t my claim though I don’t dispute it if the definition includes arrests and warnings.

Seems crazy. How can you have a criminal record if you haven’t been found guilty of a criminal act?

Apparently from the definition i found if you get a fine for something, that goes into the criminal record in the UK if the actions you got a fine for could have included a jail sentence if the judge had so decided. But it doesn't include arrests. It does include "cautions" which i don't know what they are tbh.

One stat i found is that more than 90% of the 11M people with a criminal record never spent a day in prison.

This ****ing prick