Moderation Questions

Great post.

Obesity is a very sensitive subject and it has many causes that I don't understand well, so I'd stay a mile away from that subject and leave it to their doctor to best advise them.

Why not?

So why do you tax their choices?

Doctor would tell them to lose weight and stop doing stuff that's detrimental to their health, like for example drinking too much alcohol or eating too much.

Nothing wrong with telling people who are unhealthy that they are unhealthy. We're all in this together buddy.

Seems doubtful you'd be able to smoke that many blunts before the tobacco starts making you sick assuming you don't regularly partake in other sources of nicotine. My limit is probably like 4 or 5.

For those who didn't like my coffee example - gram for gram, is beer worse for you than Pepsi (was gonna say "Coke", but cue the obv "probably, if you're snorting it" jokes)? Red bull?

Perhaps you should continue this imaginary conversation with your imaginary person in PMs.

Ironically, the smarter you are, the better you are at rationalizing terrible choices. I think d2 is on the mend, but telling people eight beers a day is no biggie or no different than drinking too much coffee seems irresponsible.

Any lifestyle reliant on fun most likely stopped being fun years before you were willing to admit it to yourself. Because then what?

Where is this even going now lol?

I'm sure we can all agree that drinking 8 cans of Pepsi or Red bull is also very bad for you, maybe even worse than 8 beers.

What is a "blunt"?

Yes beer is worse for you than Pepsi in identical quantities.

For one you get more calories from beer , like triple (450 vs 150).

And very few people properly account for those calories in their daily intake of 2000 or whatever they equilibrium number is (linked to age, sex, size and physical activity)

Is coffee even considered bad for you?

Gram for gram I'd have to assume Pepsi is worse.

I am just questioning what appears to be received wisdom about all forms of alcoholic beverages being atrocious for your health. It's not immediately obvious to me that alcohol is necessarily worse health-wise when consumed in excess than a bunch of other things. I'm not saying that it's a good reason to get plastered every night.

It's a marijuana cigar (almost always cigarillos and not actually blunts which are a specific type of cigar).

You take the cigarillo and split it open, remove the tobacco, fill with marijuana and reroll it. Like a joint but longer and thicker and instead of paper you're using tobacco leaf.

They were popularized by black america but are pretty common across all demographics of youngish weed smoking Americans nowadays.

I've never denied being an alchie, and I'm not suggesting that I've quit for good. I just haven't been drinking recently for reasons that have little to do with actual drinking.

Don't think so but also not sure in what quantity it does become bad. I think like 400+ mg a day is considered ''too much'' which is 10 cups? maybe more? Not sure I don't drink coffee.

Can we just agree that 8 beers a day is bad for you? That 8 Red Bulls a day is also bad for you and that 8 cans of Pepsi is also bad for you?

Like the great philosopher Ronaldo once said. Just drink water.

I'm proud of you. Genuinely. Hope you stay away from it.

Of course we can agree on that, and in case I wasn't clear, I was not attempting to claim otherwise.

Eh, sorry if I come across as a dick here, it's just I've seen firsthand the rationalizations people come up with to maintain their daily alcohol/drug habits.

There's probably a point at which drinking too much Coke Zero is worse than a daily six-pack of beer, but I'm not sure what that proves and people might take the wrong lesson away from the comparison. Caffeine can be physically addictive but I don't think it ****s with the brain's reward center in nearly the same way as alcohol.

The difference between someone paying lip service to the truth that their habits are harmful and someone willing to hold themselves to that truth is a strong sense of destiny.

If I genuinely believe that I am destined to finish in a good place, better than my current situation, then the truth serves me because the truth will eventually guide me to that good end state. Lacking this strong sense of destiny, why would I hold myself to truths which bear a heavy cost?

The trick is to focus on strengthening your sense of destiny.

Hate to break it to you bud, but your destiny is to end up in the ground as worm food just like the rest of us. All that heaven stuff is a fairy tale made up by the elites so you toe the line like a good little sheeple.

I think this is a good comparison and I literally avoid both of these whenever I can. I think if you completely removed the mental health effects of 8 beers v 8 cokes a day, I'd still say that beer is slightly worse.

8 cokes is a life altering amount of sugar that is likely going to play in becoming diabetic but other than that, i don't see it doing too much more.

I'd imagine in practice, 8 beers is going to lead to a lot of people to overeating shitting food and on top of the all the calories and your still battling some pretty credible data on the increases of cancer and heart disease that's linked to it - but I think other contributing factors like over eating from alcohol also plays a role in that.

Maybe if you can drink 8 beers a day, maintain the same diet as the soda drinker, hydrate yourself and get the same level of exercise while not caring that you cant seem to enjoy anything in life when your not drinking the 8 beers - it would probably be about the same i guess