2024 ELECTION THREAD
The next presidential race will be here soon! Please see current Bovada odds. Thoughts?
ANY MAINSTREAM REPUBLICAN would be a fringe candidate in any european country except perhaps poland and hungary.
Most european countries are faaaaaaaaaaaar to the left of the USA which is why we suck compared to you on any relevant measurable element of society
Lol. So keen to suckle at the MAGA teat that you forgot where I'm from.
ANY MAINSTREAM REPUBLICAN would be a fringe candidate in any european country except perhaps poland and hungary.
Most european countries are faaaaaaaaaaaar to the left of the USA which is why we suck compared to you on any relevant measurable element of society
If Europe was so bad to live there , why so many immigrants tried to go there ?
The part that people like rick want to "forget" is that giving even 10 minutes per year of political space to "trans issues" is already being to the far left of every major party in the west 20 years ago.
It's incredible we even talk about the topic at all, if you lived politics 20 years ago or earlier. Incredible
You guys are also forgetting that this should be a slam dunk for democrats. It's incredible democrats aren't 95% to win the presidency.
Incumbency, one of the best economy in american history, a convicted felon to run against you. A normal party with a normal candidate and a normal platform would be autowinning.
That the result isn't absolutely written in stone right now is an indictment of the democratic party and the candidate. They are so bad, so disgusting for historical american standard, so
117% of hot-take projection statistics are fabricated out of thin air.
NBC News: Vance says Trump would veto a national abortion ban
Source: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-el...
Yeah, I'm sure undecided female voters will fall for this horesh*t.
Sry craise but china and the ussr hated each others more than they each hated the USA so it's more complicated than this.
They followed very different trajectory, with USSR being "less monstrous" than China the first 20-30 years of communism and then that reverseing after Xiaoping for China changed the rules of the game completly and forever.
Moreover the USSR killed a ton TO ESTABLISH communism. Then again after a while with Stalin.
China killed a bit to establish it, and a GIGATON after communism
I was simplifying. The point is that these two powers paid massive prices in order to achieve very modest gdp increases that were achieved much better in Western states.
I was simplifying. The point is that these two powers paid massive prices in order to achieve very modest gdp increases that were achieved much better in Western states.
When China pivoted under an undemocratic , totalitarian capitalist system ("with chinese characteristics"), it worked to achieve decent incomes (approx 10k per capita per year USD). Unlike the USSR which never achieved anything of the sort
Projecting 95% probability of any modern USA Presidential election after how close all recent elections have been is absurd.
2012 wasn't close and the economy was worse and the opposition candidate was far better (in the political sense of having a chance with the median voter).
2016 had no incumbency advantage, 2020 was republicans being crushed even if incumbent (but the unicum of covid played a role, perhaps).
That's a stretch. Anyway, my point is that Trump would be but a fringe candidate in any European (EEC) country, and you have not refuted it with that. It's a hypothetical as to how a Trump-like candidate would be viewed domestically, so a poll about his foreign policy when he is US president is pretty irrelevant.
A survey
gave him 28% across an aggregate of countries (including non-European ones), which puts him slightly ahead of people like Xi Jinping and Putin. Countries that increase his score in this survey are mostly non-European. So, suffice to say that while he can find Europeans who accept him and probably even the odd fan, he is deeply unpopular.
That a man who confuses the Baltics for the Balkans has any support at all for his foreign policy in Europe is rather worrying, especially for a student of history.
And when I say Trump confused the Baltics for the Balkans, I don't mean he got the names wrong. I mean he sat down with Baltic leaders and castigated them for the Balkan wars.
A survey
gave him 28% across an aggregate of countries (including non-European ones), which puts him slightly ahead of people like Xi Jinping and Putin. Countries that increase his score in this survey are mostly non-European. So, suffice to say that while he can find Europeans who accept him and probably even the odd fan, he is deeply unpopular.That a man who confuses the Baltics for the Balkans has any support at all for his foreign policy in Europe is rather worrying, especially for
And how did Bush poll
I am fully denying those people weren't mostly already republican voters, and won't again be with a different candidate.
They are buying the current fad at the club they would go to anyway
Oh, for sure. But those who didn't want to be in the cult jumped shipped, so I am comfortable calling most of those who stayed cultists. I'm not saying every Trump voter is a cultist. But if you're ever said "MAGA" or purchased any merchandise with a Trump slogan on it, or have a Trump sign in your garden, or basically have any attitude other than "I'm holding my nose and voting for the fat orange bastard because of xyz policy", you definitely are.
2012 wasn't close and the economy was worse and the opposition candidate was far better (in the political sense of having a chance with the median voter).
2016 had no incumbency advantage, 2020 was republicans being crushed even if incumbent (but the unicum of covid played a role, perhaps).
Yeah, 2012 wasn't close going into election day:
Gallup: Romney 49%, Obama 48% in Gallup's Final Election Survey
Source: https://news.gallup.com/poll/158519/romn...
ABC News: Post-ABC tracking poll: Romney 50 percent, Obama 47
Source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-...
Pew: Obama Gains Edge in Campaign’s Final Days, 50% to 47%
Source:
Yeah, 2012 wasn't close going into election day:
Gallup: Romney 49%, Obama 48% in Gallup's Final Election Survey
Source:
ABC News: Post-ABC tracking poll: Romney 50 percent, Obama 47
Source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-...
Pew: Obama Gains Edge in Campaign’s Final Days, 50% to 47%
Source:
Obama won the popular vote by 4%, well above the "republican buffer"
