Biggest loser in online poker history wants to grind $16k

Biggest loser in online poker history wants to grind $16k

I start this with some pictures:

nl2 -$8792.18 -82 buy ins below EV


nl5 (notice that pt4 shows party poker nl5 as nl4) -$5943.81


nl10 -$773.92 -15 buy ins below EV


Total loss -$15509.91


This is me playing nl2, nl5 and nl10 on party poker for one year.

My history begins somewhere in same period when they started to show WSOP shows in television. I think I have played 12-13 years nows mainly NL2, some amount of NL5 and little bit of NL10 what is the biggest stake i've ever played.

I've read all Sklansky, all Harrington, all Miller, watched huge amount of videos, bought trackers and calculators.

Still after those years and after that all I've lost huge amount of money on those stakes. I try to play my best but losing to huge suckouts like 95/5 favorite makes me really upset.

I've lost literally all my money including all my life savings to online poker. I want to try one last time to win those money back and little bit of extra. That's why $16k. What I need is support and guiding.

I had thread on micro forum but they deleted it just when people start to understand that this is real situation and not fake.

And if you wonder where that biggest loser comes from it was said by guy who has been playing for living many years. He said I'm the biggest loser in history counted as lost buy ins.

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18 March 2019 at 01:30 PM
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by enzet k

Are you happy with your expected value, or do you see room for improvement in your gameplay?

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by MastaAces k

recommendation:

hilarious from the beginning but it only gets better and better...

Watched a little and I think if someone is so bad player than that swedish whale, you should be not streaming. When that kind of whale is streaming and talking every hand like he's knowing something, it's mainly to suck in new players who thinks it's easy.

He was battling against massive whale. The most hilarious part was when he first said that massive whale is tight player but as stream goes on the more whale starts to make total manic moves. Still that swedish guy raised him out of position small sizings and bet small on every spot also on very wet boards.

If whale calls all your 3bets your 3bet is then all in. I know that kind of whales very well. And it's hilarious easy to make them leave table just by using aggression. Swedish guy made the opposite because he cant't adjust. He also said that 50%+ vpip guy is nit.

Maybe someone thinks that kind of stuff is entertaining.


by Paisting k

And it's hilarious easy to make them leave table just by using aggression. Swedish guy made the op

Why would you want to leave the table.


by Yogg-Saron k

Why would you want to leave the table.

Because the algorithm is rigged for whales to suck out and take all your profits. Much safer to play with good players.


by Paisting k

If whale calls all your 3bets your 3bet is then all in.

Out of all the poker players in the world, you're the one and only knowing and applying this adjustment.


by enzet k

Out of all the poker players in the world, you're the one and only knowing and applying this adjustment.


are you asking Paisting to coach you?


by dogarse k

Because the algorithm is rigged for whales to suck out and take all your profits. Much safer to play with good players.

so Paisting could just become a whale and start punishing all the good players by being really bad


by Paisting k

Watched a little and I think if someone is so bad player than that swedish whale, you should be not streaming. When that kind of whale is streaming and talking every hand like he's knowing something, it's mainly to suck in new players who thinks it's easy.

He was battling against massive whale. The most hilarious part was when he first said that massive whale is tight player but as stream goes on the more whale starts to make total manic moves. Still that swedish guy raised him out of position s

So given your critique.. how did your month go? Are you winning for the first time... ever?


Originally Posted by Paisting
If whale calls all your 3bets your 3bet is then all in.

Maybe there is some projection going here, I applied this vs you. Value 3b jamming hands like ATo.


by Paisting k

Watched a little and I think if someone is so bad player than that swedish whale, you should be not streaming. When that kind of whale is streaming and talking every hand like he's knowing something, it's mainly to suck in new players who thinks it's easy.

He was battling against massive whale. The most hilarious part was when he first said that massive whale is tight player but as stream goes on the more whale starts to make total manic moves. Still that swedish guy raised him out of position s


amongst other things, he has the exact same victim mentality as you. he is basically the Swedish version of Paisting, only he's a bit better than you at playing poker (and more entertaining).

i wonder what would happen if you two played heads-up. both of you think the RNG is rigged, so who would win? i suppose you'd both breakeven for eternity as to maximize the rake? serious question.


by MastaAces k

both of you think the RNG is rigged,

Does Raph Drako really thinks RNG is rigged or does he only do it for views?

I have only seen youtube highlights.


by MastaAces k

amongst other things, he has the exact same victim mentality as you. he is basically the Swedish version of Paisting, only he's a bit better than you at playing poker (and more entertaining).

i wonder what would happen if you two played heads-up. both of you think the RNG is rigged, so who would win? i suppose you'd both breakeven for eternity as to maximize the rake? serious question.

I would pay to watch this epic battle


I'm not sure the world can handle two Paistings.

The rake would win.

Cheers!!!


by MastaAces k

recommendation:

hilarious from the beginning but it only gets better and better...

then watch all of the rest of his videos and streams. they're great to have on during long grind sessions.

Good Lord. I was not aware of this person. I'm sure this comparison has been made prior, but this screams modern day tuff_fish to me.


by MastaAces k

amongst other things, he has the exact same victim mentality as you. he is basically the Swedish version of Paisting, only he's a bit better than you at playing poker (and more entertaining).

I know those spots very well and been many times in the exact same position against massive whale. That sunglasses guy from Finland is the archetype of massive whale from aggro side. Every typical character traits match. Endless 3betting, not folding to reraises, going all in light and thinks he is good player.

What I've been talk about a lot, why those players usually hits very well on board or get the best starting hands? This whole stream is the prove how these games are going. Drako seems to know this.

But then the biggest problem Drako has. There are lots of hands where sunglasses guy raises and Drako reraises from out of position with ridiculous small sizing. He makes those small sizing knowing very well that whale is calling every raise and he is playing against not folding guy from out of position. What happens is that whale calls and Drako bets small on flop and whale calls again. On turn Drako bets again and whale calls again. Now on river Drako playes total guessing game against whale who's range is super wide and who is betting all in with total balanced polarised range if Drako checks. The whole advantage is given to whale who just pushing call button without any brain function.

You need to size up massively your reraising. Don't let whale cheap on flop and put him pay massively on flop. Couple of times all in reraises and shoves to their face and whale is out from table.

by Yogg-Saron k

Why would you want to leave the table.

You mean why we want that kind of player out from table. If you watch that stream you know why. If you keep betting smaller side of bets they suck out and many times suck out otherway too. It's you or them. You need to show who is leader of the table. It's all high variance game but smaller loses if you punish them.


Really disaster?


Based on previous post hero is focused on coaching now


Hero moving up in stakes?


Really sick month again with massive suckouts. You can only be amazed how much I managed to get EV back after confronting:

2x 90% EV suckouts
5x 80-90% EV suckouts
7x 70-80% EV suckouts
7x 65-70% EV suckouts

4x lost all in with aces 3x with kings and running almost everytime with AK against AA and KK. There is no blocking effect in these games. Maybe 2 decks? Or one deck with extra aces and kings?



Massive whale totally punished after hole head donkey kong idiotism. Negreanu doesn't like them lose in 15 minutes all their money.

GGPoker, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players

2ec74e6d (UTG): $10.21 (102 bb)
Hero (MP): $10.11 (101 bb)
6d7f8204 (CO): $12.05 (121 bb)
e791eb26 (BU): $15.36 (154 bb)
f43e1105 (SB): $10.29 (103 bb)
aa9a1583 (BB): $10.27 (103 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Hero) is MP with J J
1 fold, Hero (MP) raises to $0.40, 3 players fold, aa9a1583 (BB) calls $0.30

Flop: ($0.85) T 9 3 (2 players)
aa9a1583 (BB) bets $0.20, Hero (MP) raises to $9.71 (all-in), aa9a1583 (BB) calls $9.51

Turn: ($20.27) 8 (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($20.27) A (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $20.27 (Rake: $0.45)

Showdown:
Hero (MP) shows J J (a pair of Jacks)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 82%, Flop: 90%, Turn: 23%, River: 0%)

aa9a1583 (BB) shows 8 8 (three of a kind, Eights)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 18%, Flop: 10%, Turn: 77%, River: 100%)

aa9a1583 (BB) wins $19.82

Massive stealer whale with zero fold to reraise outplayed and punished on flop badly. Like above turn is the miracle hand for whale that should be lose all his money in couple of minutes.

GGPoker, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players

19b4a447 (UTG): $15.04 (150 bb)
9511b96 (MP): $3.85 (39 bb)
45539957 (CO): $10.49 (105 bb)
4fe49dec (BU): $10.00 (100 bb)
Hero (SB): $10.35 (104 bb)
e4f700aa (BB): $10.15 (102 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Hero) is SB with Q Q
2 players fold, 45539957 (CO) raises to $0.30, 1 fold, Hero (SB) 3-bets to $1.40, 1 fold, 45539957 (CO) calls $1.10

Flop: ($2.90) 5 8 T (2 players)
Hero (SB) bets $2.18, 45539957 (CO) raises to $9.09 (all-in), Hero (SB) calls $6.77 (all-in)

Turn: ($17.84) J (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($17.84) 3 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $17.84 (Rake: $0.45)

Showdown:
45539957 (CO) shows J J (three of a kind, Jacks)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 18%, Flop: 10%, Turn: 86%, River: 100%)

Hero (SB) shows Q Q (a pair of Queens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 82%, Flop: 90%, Turn: 14%, River: 0%)

45539957 (CO) wins $17.39

What about aces after outplaying them and made them call with total ****.

GGPoker, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players

9b10151d (UTG): $15.63 (156 bb)
b3c4281a (MP): $10.31 (103 bb)
9601a207 (CO): $10.25 (103 bb)
Hero (BU): $10.06 (101 bb)
baded17e (SB): $11.84 (118 bb)
ad4004d0 (BB): $10.00 (100 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Hero) is BTN with A A
9b10151d (UTG) raises to $0.23, 2 players fold, Hero (BU) 3-bets to $1.20, 2 players fold, 9b10151d (UTG) 4-bets to $3.66, Hero (BU) 5-bets to $10.06 (all-in), 9b10151d (UTG) calls $6.40

Flop: ($20.27) 6 Q 7 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: ($20.27) K (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($20.27) 2 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $20.27 (Rake: $0.65)

Showdown:
Hero (BU) shows A A (a pair of Aces)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 87%, Flop: 78%, Turn: 18%, River: 0%)

9b10151d (UTG) shows K Q (two pair, Kings and Queens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 13%, Flop: 22%, Turn: 82%, River: 100%)

9b10151d (UTG) wins $19.62

GGPoker, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players

28286b54 (UTG): $11.90 (119 bb)
8c25abfb (MP): $22.05 (221 bb)
f93d97ee (CO): $8.07 (81 bb)
7875a786 (BU): $18.06 (181 bb)
Hero (SB): $10.05 (101 bb)
369f1672 (BB): $14.97 (150 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Hero) is SB with A A
1 fold, 8c25abfb (MP) raises to $0.21, f93d97ee (CO) calls $0.21, 1 fold, Hero (SB) 3-bets to $1.80, 1 fold, 8c25abfb (MP) calls $1.59, 1 fold

Flop: ($3.91) T 8 5 (2 players)
Hero (SB) bets $2.94, 8c25abfb (MP) raises to $18.12, Hero (SB) calls $5.31 (all-in)

Turn: ($20.41) 9 (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($20.41) 4 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $20.41 (Rake: $0.45)

Showdown:
8c25abfb (MP) shows 9 9 (three of a kind, Nines)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 19%, Flop: 13%, Turn: 95%, River: 100%)

Hero (SB) shows A A (a pair of Aces)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 81%, Flop: 87%, Turn: 5%, River: 0%)

8c25abfb (MP) wins $19.96

GGPoker, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players

1d0dc054 (UTG): $10.21 (102 bb)
76aa4682 (MP): $11.44 (114 bb)
8faa0f41 (CO): $10.49 (105 bb)
b632f36c (BU): $11.03 (110 bb)
Hero (SB): $10.00 (100 bb)
1003e937 (BB): $18.10 (181 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Hero) is SB with A A
3 players fold, b632f36c (BU) raises to $0.20, Hero (SB) 3-bets to $1.40, 1 fold, b632f36c (BU) 4-bets to $11.03 (all-in), Hero (SB) calls $8.60 (all-in)

Flop: ($20.10) 5 8 7 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: ($20.10) 9 (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($20.10) K (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $20.10 (Rake: $0.45)

Showdown:
b632f36c (BU) shows K K (three of a kind, Kings)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 18%, Flop: 10%, Turn: 9%, River: 100%)

Hero (SB) shows A A (a pair of Aces)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 82%, Flop: 90%, Turn: 91%, River: 0%)

b632f36c (BU) wins $19.65

GGPoker, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players

e1c0f440 (UTG): $10.12 (101 bb)
30e5f724 (MP): $4.36 (44 bb)
dbeded61 (CO): $9.05 (91 bb)
238e02b6 (BU): $10.20 (102 bb)
ca8735fb (SB): $10.05 (101 bb)
Hero (BB): $10.41 (104 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Hero) is BB with A A
1 fold, 30e5f724 (MP) raises to $0.21, dbeded61 (CO) calls $0.21, 2 players fold, Hero (BB) 3-bets to $1.80, 30e5f724 (MP) 4-bets to $4.36 (all-in), 1 fold, Hero (BB) calls $2.56

Flop: ($8.98) 4 4 7 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: ($8.98) Q (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($8.98) 6 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $8.98 (Rake: $0.45)

Showdown:
30e5f724 (MP) shows Q Q (a full house, Queens full of Fours)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 19%, Flop: 8%, Turn: 95%, River: 100%)

Hero (BB) shows A A (two pair, Aces and Fours)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 81%, Flop: 92%, Turn: 5%, River: 0%)

30e5f724 (MP) wins $8.53

And kings against total sperm whale.

GGPoker, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players

e9cb607d (UTG): $10.00 (100 bb)
Hero (MP): $10.15 (102 bb)
bc717f50 (CO): $12.26 (123 bb)
8bc98329 (BU): $4.00 (40 bb)
81d26a70 (SB): $22.52 (225 bb)
a80af471 (BB): $12.90 (129 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Hero) is MP with K K
1 fold, Hero (MP) raises to $0.40, bc717f50 (CO) 3-bets to $12.26 (all-in), 3 players fold, Hero (MP) calls $9.75 (all-in)

Flop: ($19.34) J 6 Q (2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: ($19.34) 2 (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($19.34) 9 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $19.34 (Rake: $0.45)

Showdown:
bc717f50 (CO) shows J J (three of a kind, Jacks)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 19%, Flop: 84%, Turn: 95%, River: 100%)

Hero (MP) shows K K (a pair of Kings)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 81%, Flop: 16%, Turn: 5%, River: 0%)

bc717f50 (CO) wins $18.89

And keeps going and going.


Winrate improved, keep it up!


Sick results, breakeven for the last 10k hands

Must be moving up in stakes to where they respect your 50x jams


Run it twice / thrice?!


Good god you are stupid 😃 You run basically at ev and still manage to moan you run bad you are so stupid it makes retar4ded people look like your average joes 😃


Good month
If you stoped at +20$ you would have your first winning month, but instead you decided to lose 22buyins in 1700 hands.
Feels like your doing this on purpose.


How does Paisting afford to play micros

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