2024 ELECTION THREAD
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Recently, another friend who is an actual academic told me that "according to inside sources," Barron Trump tortured and killed animals. While possible, this is also inherently quite unlikely. So I looked it up and the source was an unsubstantiated tweet from some random dude who claims, with no evidence, that he was in child care and tended to kids who knew Barron and perhaps Barron as well. It was discussed in a liberal subreddit where maybe 5-10% pointed out it was a baseless claim. Many s
If I made the effort, I'm sure that I could find this sort of thing of the internet. But I don't run into it organically very often. May I ask how this stuff is winding up in front of you? Do you have especially crazy social media connections from high school or something?
It's a term that Victor saw somewhere in the derposphere and started spamming endlessly on 2+2.
It will run its course like every other term that gains currency here. For a while, people thought underpants gnomes were an explanation of every political strategy. Then we moved on to shifts in the Overton window. Now it appears that blue maga has escaped Victor containment.
People enjoy using whatever the term du jour is. It makes them feel clever and up to speed.
Blue MAGA actually meant something else, ie the defense of Biden with cult-like narratives
Now, a new term is circulating on social media that attempts to equate supporters of President Joe Biden to supporters of Donald Trump. Blue MAGA suggests that certain political sects on the left can be just as blindly faithful to their political leaders as some people on the right. This attempt to equate the two sides has left the internet bitterly divided, as some think the label is unfair or untrue.
then other people as per article started using it like victor does, ie by meaning "democrats actually agree with more MAGA policies than they want to admit"
Blue MAGA actually meant something else, ie the defense of Biden with cult-like narratives
Now, a new term is circulating on social media that attempts to equate supporters of President Joe Biden to supporters of Donald Trump. Blue MAGA suggests that certain political sects on the left can be just as blindly faithful to their political leaders as some people on the right. This attempt to equate the two sides has left the internet bitterly divided, as some think the label is unfair or untrue.
Victor uses the term in both ways, more the former than the latter.
In any case, I'm just yelling at the sky on this point. Spamming new political catch-phrases in the hope that one of them will catch on is a feature of the modern political landscape on both the right and left wing. And there are plenty of thirsty stray dogs who are more than eager to lap those catchphrases up and vomit them back out. This phenomenon isn't going away any time soon.
Just more of "hurr durr both sides same" stuff. I find the "both sides same" people to generally be the least interesting on this forum. Always some variation of "neither are Bernie, so egro both are the same".
It's such a vacuous argument too. They find all the things where they are actually the same, i.e. all the positions on which most reasonable people agree, and then some magic happens and then that means they are the same in every respect.
Just more of "hurr durr both sides same" stuff. I find the "both sides same" people to generally be the least interesting on this forum. Always some variation of "neither are Bernie, so egro both are the same".
Oh Sanders would be preferable a bit for them but still not quite something that could satisfy them
Just more of "hurr durr both sides same" stuff. I find the "both sides same" people to generally be the least interesting on this forum. Always some variation of "neither are Bernie, so egro both are the same".
It's such a vacuous argument too. They find all the things where they are actually the same, i.e. all the positions on which most reasonable people agree, and then some magic happens and then that means they are the same in every respect.
That sentiment traces to academic thought that views history and politics primarily as a struggle between the powerful and the powerless. The pop version of this idea is cruder and dumber than the source material, but that's usually the case.
Not realizing that one is evil doesn't make one less evil. Judgement isn't passed from within
People have been pointing out that Tim is a moron for a decade. Turns out they were right. Judgement isn't passed from within
I dunno, this makes him look better. possible. like maybe he doesnt believe all the dumb **** he spews and is just getting paid gobs of money.
the stark reality of GOP policies
thx Representative Anna Paulina Luna
thx Senator Tom Cotton
thx former POTUS Donald J. Trump
It's a term that Victor saw somewhere in the derposphere and started spamming endlessly on 2+2.
It will run its course like every other term that gains currency here. For a while, people thought underpants gnomes were an explanation of every political strategy. Then we moved on to shifts in the Overton window. Now it appears that blue maga has escaped Victor containment.
People enjoy using whatever the term du jour is. It makes them feel clever and up to speed.
Ive used BlueMaga since like 2019. its pretty short jump from #VoteBlueNoMatterWho to #BlueMaga.
Blue MAGA actually meant something else, ie the defense of Biden with cult-like narratives
Now, a new term is circulating on social media that attempts to equate supporters of President Joe Biden to supporters of Donald Trump. Blue MAGA suggests that certain political sects on the left can be just as blindly faithful to their political leaders as some people on the right. This attempt to equate the two sides has left the internet bitterly divided, as some think the label is unfair or untrue.
Democrats agree with MAGA policy like "tough on Iran" and border wall and dropping Covid regulations and locking kids in cages when Dems do it.
Ive used BlueMaga since like 2019. its pretty short jump from #VoteBlueNoMatterWho to #BlueMaga.
Terms don't always catch on immediately. I agree that you were a very early adopter. You must be thrilled that the term is finally gaining currency with a broader audience. As you point out, this has been a passion project for you for quite a long time.
its just another example of Dems believing in nothing. Obama negotiated the Iran deal and at least on the surface was working at deescalation and better relations.
Trump tore up nuclear the deal, slapped on crippling sanctions , and assassinated Soleimani.
Dems are now like, Trump was weak on Iran (really?) and we need to get tough. like how much tougher can you get? a war? arent the Dems supposed to be anti-war?
and I guess the real point is that their supporters dont even bat an eye and all wholeheartedly supported Obama in bettering Iranian relations but now are like hell ya we need to "get tough".
Im not gonna blame a craven politician for acting like a craven politician. but I just lose respect for people who should have a bit more circumspection.
its just another example of Dems believing in nothing. Obama negotiated the Iran deal and at least on the surface was working at deescalation and better relations.
Trump tore up nuclear the deal, slapped on crippling sanctions , and assassinated Soleimani.
Dems are now like, Trump was weak on Iran (really?) and we need to get tough. like how much tougher can you get? a war? arent the Dems supposed to be anti-war?
To state the obvious, there have been some intervening political events between the Obama era and now. But if your point is that the Iranian political regime is more or less the same now as it was in the Obama era, I think that's a fair point.
its just another example of Dems believing in nothing. Obama negotiated the Iran deal and at least on the surface was working at deescalation and better relations.
Trump tore up nuclear the deal, slapped on crippling sanctions , and assassinated Soleimani.
Dems are now like, Trump was weak on Iran (really?) and we need to get tough. like how much tougher can you get? a war? arent the Dems supposed to be anti-war?
And Iran cynically used the deescalation to set up proxies in Iraq, Syria, Lebanon and Palestine to destabilize the whole Middle East. And it was uncovered Obama's chief experts on Iran were IRI spies, and it is very quietly being investigated (as the truth isn't convenient to the narrative, our media is VERY hands off and uninterested)
If anything, the lesson is dont trust Islamists to be good faith actors. But given our approach to Hamas and Hezbollah, sadly that lesson was not learned.
If I made the effort, I'm sure that I could find this sort of thing of the internet. But I don't run into it organically very often. May I ask how this stuff is winding up in front of you? Do you have especially crazy social media connections from high school or something?
for what it's worth i've definitely come across this story as well. probably on a twitter post. its allegedly from a high priced, high society tutor/nanny that tutors kids in the same circle as barron. the original story i thought was just that everyone thinks barron is super weird, and that barron previously said his mom was 100% getting a divorce but then the political run happened and she stayed. i dont think i saw the killed small animals part.
To state the obvious, there have been some intervening political events between the Obama era and now. But if your point is that the Iranian political regime is more or less the same now as it was in the Obama era, I think that's a fair point.
right I mean, we have always been at war with Eastasia
for everyone worried about Dictator Trump, Kamala is coming over the top rope to limit free speech on what she defines as 'hate and misinformation'.
Just more of "hurr durr both sides same" stuff. I find the "both sides same" people to generally be the least interesting on this forum. Always some variation of "neither are Bernie, so egro both are the same".
It's such a vacuous argument too. They find all the things where they are actually the same, i.e. all the positions on which most reasonable people agree, and then some magic happens and then that means they are the same in every respect.
there's a lot that victor says which i disagree with, but a lot of his stuff in regards to "both sides bad" is correct, so much that people no longer address it in good faith and just respond by mocking with BotH SiDEs BAd
Both sides also agree that the stock market should exist, that private people should be allowed to own capital and that raping children is bad and criminal. They have so much in common!
there's a lot that victor says which i disagree with, but a lot of his stuff in regards to "both sides bad" is correct, so much that people no longer address it in good faith and just respond by mocking with BotH SiDEs BAd
Purely by accident. Sure, if you keep banging the "both sides same" drum about the things they have in common, there will be some good things there and some bad things there (although which is which is obviously in the eye of the beholder). That doesn't make them the same, and it doesn't make his position any less vapid.
Also, addressing Victor in good faith is certainly a novel suggestion. I am fascinated by your ideas and would like to subscribe to your publication.
