2024 ELECTION THREAD
The next presidential race will be here soon! Please see current Bovada odds. Thoughts?
In retrospect they were probably in worse shape in 2016 but polls weren't built to capture what they now capture (and "shy trump voters" aren't a thing these days imho)
They never were. All the error in 2016 was fully explainable by normal error plus under sampling non-college educated whites.
he literally called it a fact of life in the quote. are you saying that because he qualified it with not liking that is it a fact of life means that he did not categorize it as a fact of life?
give me a ****ing break you troll
in my search for this bethune biopic i did find this hilarious one on snow - not me but i do actually know the women who plays his wife quite well
skip to 3:37 to see what happens when you cast a random expat you know through your friend circle into a dramatic role in a film 😀
he literally called it a fact of life in the quote. are you saying that because he qualified it with not liking that is it a fact of life means that he did not categorize it as a fact of life?
give me a ****ing break you troll
not one to defend vance but i think the headline was misleading and inaccurate
to say "school shootings are a fact of life" generally means there's nothing that can be done and we have to accept them
he actually said "it's a fact of life that psychos see schools as soft targets to make headlines" and then proposed measures to counteract
Which is calling school shootings a fact of life. He literally said it. It's neither inaccurate nor misleading.
do you know what literally means? do you read anything beyond headlines? rhetorical questions, i know from previous conversations you do not
Yes, and he literally said it. I read the entire quote and context and it's INCREDIBLY clear that he both was saying and believes that school shootings are a fact of life. Denying this is HILARIOUS.
Yes, and he literally said it. I read the entire quote and context and it's INCREDIBLY clear that he both was saying and believes that school shootings are a fact of life. Denying this is HILARIOUS.
do you agree or disagree with this statement:
to say "school shootings are a fact of life" generally means there's nothing that can be done and we have to accept them
Even if you desperately tried to split hairs and tried to argue that "this" in "this is a fact of life" refers to pyschos seeing schools as soft targets, WHAT DOES THAT RESULT IN?
jfc this isn't even hard.
an entirely different intended meaning, see above
reading comprehension or the english language or?
No, it doesn't. At all. I'm so sick to death of all the absolute trolls on this forum that just deny reality even when it stares them right in the face. I should've added you to the ignore list a long time ago.
so he essentially said that "the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun". kool
moar gunz, just one more cop bro, etc
he literally called it a fact of life in the quote. are you saying that because he qualified it with not liking that is it a fact of life means that he did not categorize it as a fact of life?
give me a ****ing break you troll
Do you disagree it's a fact of life?
Kamala said women should stay in violent marriages.
Stop being so obtuse.
Even if you desperately tried to split hairs and tried to argue that "this" in "this is a fact of life" refers to pyschos seeing schools as soft targets, WHAT DOES THAT RESULT IN?
jfc this isn't even hard.
split hairs by using the actual literal grammatical meaning of his statement?
regardless, school shootings are indeed a fact of life. and the solution is to ban guns. if someone said this then liberals would go crazy with joy.
To elaborate: he doesn't mean psychos see schools as a soft target are the fact of life because he immediately tells us how you would fix that. That doesn't make sense. If it's a fact of life, you can't fix it. And if he did mean that he's an even bigger idiot for that reason plus that type of security would have done absolutely nothing to change what happened in this case. This wasn't a psycho walking through the front door, this was a kid that was already in the school.
No. He was calling school shootings a fact of life or he's even more of an idiot than that would indicate. Those are the two choices.
Conservative apologists bending over backwards to excuse this df-ery are embarrassing.
this is the dumbest, most pointless, semantical argument ..... in the last 24 hours anyway
just move past it and report to the gun control thread already
Yes I don't know that "happy" is the word I'd use to describe the Dems situation, at least among people with any basic level of awareness. It's still pretty tense. It's more about the outlook being vastly improved over the trajectory things were on when Biden was in the race, especially post-debate. Sometimes a tie score feels relatively good.
If the election were held right this second Dems would win, and not by much at all
I'm not convinced this is true. I expect that "undecided" is again going to prove to be where a lot of Trump voters park for the polls, and many aren't answering these polls. Of course I'm aware that many pollsters are doing what they can to account for these problems but we can't know how good a job they're doing.
And for what's it's worth--absolutely nothing, just observation--I just drove from D.C. up to Mechanicsburg PA and Trump is convincingly crushing the lawn sign battle and not just in the red districts. With no other information other than knowing PA was a swing state you'd think we were headed for a Reagan '84 sweep. We have way more information in reality, but still in an election polling this close and with good reason to question poll accuracy to begin with it's really hard to completely ignore even anecdotal stuff.
Make it illegal for someone under enlistment age to own or possess a gun and go wrath of god on the parents of a shooter or someone caught with a gun under enlistment age
The former, of course, will never happen cuz muh freedoms, and any law to that effect will be overturned (didn’t some Kansas judge just make it legal nationwide to own a machine gun?) and the latter doesn’t really matter without the former
T&p
But seriously, bran > Jordan
