Ukraine-Russia War Take 2

4) is the only easy thing the EU can help with that.

The rest is why reasonably they are delaying elections

Nah that was from neutral/fairly credible sources. The maybe is still warranted.

Still not what you claimed though.

Tucker Carlson: "Despite what you may hear on NBC News, Zelenskyy is not the leader of a democratic nation. Zelenskyy is a client of the Biden administration. And ideologues within the Biden administration did not want negotiated peace. They wanted regime change against Russia."

From the Kremlin to far left or left right useful idiots all the way down to 2p2.

Don’t try to understand the logic of “America bad” leftists, they are moralizing angels when it comes to their enemies and realpolitik calculated serial killers when it comes to their perceived allies. As long as the United States and its interests are being hurt, they are happy.

why would I know or care about any of those? if you want to argue that it is good and proper to not hold elections and for Zelensky to remain head of state, then that is fine. but that is not really compatible with my personal view of a democracy or of a leader who doesnt want power. again, I was just pushing back on the absurd idea that Zelensky does not want power.

I dont think I have ever commented on Hamas's legitimacy as representatives of the Palestinians. Ive just said that they are a legitimate resistance force. but they have not instituted martial law and enacted brutal conscription. in fact, they allow draft age men to leave Gaza at their will, nor do they require those who fled to return.

I've brought all those issues up with him before. He likes to sling his insults and attacks but he refuses to defend them. While it's easy to attack someone, actually explaining why he's attacking becomes a "complicated counterfactual" that he isn't educated enough to defend.

If you can't explain a better route, then don't attack it. You're literally attacking a man because he won't endanger the population he's forced to serve from danger. You want to kill Ukrainians in order to have Zelenskyy inevitably voted back into office, whether you realize it or not.

Bur please, explain the absurdity. What is absurd about thinking that Zelenskyy and the parliament enacted martial law due to the Russian invasion and not so Zelenskyy could become ruler for life. Explain the absurdity.

the absurdity is that a man who ran for president, won the presidency, and now is standing as president without elections somehow "does not want power".

Then explain the absurdity.

Look at how it came to be that currently there are no elections and explain how that factors into things. You have continually claimed that it was his master plan to end elections so he could stay in power, explain it.

He's already said he won't run again. He wants out of office, he doesn't want to keep the war going so he can stay in power.

I'm looking at the facts as you lay them out and the only absurd thing I'm finding is the confidence with which you make your baseless attack and the chain of events that you arr alluded to but refusing to spell out because they are so far fetched and dumb.

oh I said it was his master plan eh? bad faith is bad faith.

oh he said he wants out of office? weird bc Im pretty sure he could step down.

the baseless attack that a man who is the president of a country does not want power. guess what, and I know this is going to hurt to hear, but Kamala Harris wants power too.

Oh so it's not his master plan? It's just the sequence of events since Russia invaded forced him to stay in power?

Please explain.

If it's not a factor then why do you keep mentioning it?

There's nothing bad faith about asking you to explain and then drawing the inevitable conclusions when you refuse to because explaining would highlight the absurdity of your claim.

you claimed that Zelensky doesnt want power. Im pretty sure that he does considering you know, he ran for president and remains the president after canceling elections. not gonna get past this impasse no matter how much you try to twist my words.

you could agree to disagree. but instead you make a ton of personal attacks and bad faith arguments that are completely off topic. you are never going to convince me that the West is correct and that Zelensky is some lily white perfect person.

Hmmmmmm seems like you lay it out pretty clear. Martial law isn't in place because of the invasion, it's a "neat trick" for Zelenskyy to hold power.

Who is arguing in bad faith again?

Bullshit and you know it. You repeat Russian propaganda that Zelenskyy ended elections because he's some power hungry person who was willing to do away with democracy as long as he could remain head of state.

And you accuse me of arguing in bad faith. It is disgusting that the mods here defend this.

ofc hes power hungry! hes a leading politician. do you think they just fall into that role?

And here's the equivocation. "I didn't mean he's power hungry to the extent that he's willing to fake declaring martial law, I mean he's power hungry in the sense that all people wish for some power over their life."

Bullshit and you know it.

Explain his "neat trick". Explain why you keep tacking "he ended elections" onto all of your arguments that call him power hungry. Own your stances.

And no, not everyone who runs for president is power hungry. Believe it or not some people legitimately want to help their country. It shouldn't be surprising that someone who doesn't flee when a country with far more military power is trying to kill him is such a person.

I don't think you're a useful idiot spewing Russian peopaganda because you want to be one, yet you're still here every day being a useful idiot spewing Russian propaganda.

Are you seriously going to argue in bad faith that your English is as bad as you're now claiming?

If you can't imagine that someone could possibly do something to help people during an existential threat then that says more about you than it does about Zelenskyy.

BGP, I really dont care what you think of me. it disturbs me when you lie and make things up. that is something I am working on. maybe I wont care soon. but furthermore, if you thought I was a good person then I would seriously question everything about myself. you are the guy who repeatedly made fun of the Gazans being murdered so spare me your sanctimony.

I have not lied and I have not made anything up. By throwing that accusation out you are telling lies and making things up.

I have never made fun of a Gazan being murdered either. That is another lie and made up story.

You are deflecting from your inability to defend your disgusting accusations and views.

Ive never once said Russia should invade. Ive never once said that civilian death in Ukraine was ok.. you have said both of those things about the Gazans and then proceeded to make fun of them having lingerie.

if you want to discuss the facts of this conflict then its fine. if you want to sit here and constantly make personal attacks bc I dont subscribe to the same pov as you then I am going to throw your atrocious comments back at you.

this you?

This is a pathetic attempt to steer away from having to defend your own views.

You are inventing lies in order to distract from your own views, do some self reflection.

That is indeed me and this is yet another attempt of yours to take something out of context in a bad faith argument. You know exactly what that was referring to. Do you think that Victoria Secret was a common shop in the Warsaw Ghetto? Why don't you use the other examples I posted about which showed how ridiculous it was to call Gaza the Warsaw Ghetto? Why is it always this one?

Is it fine if I say that you were making fun of dead Ukrainians when you talked about how sexy some of the wives of the "nazis" were when you perving on them? That seems about the same level of bad faith.

You are distracting from owning your views.

I stated my views and I stand by them. you didnt like that so you decided to make multiple personal attacks over the course of 2 days. but we all know who you are, and you are the guy laughing about Gazans in lingerie while they get exterminated. you are not a moral authority.