Rec-Bumhunter trying to go pro
Greetings to everyone and thank you in advance for your time.
I used to play poker as a rec,mostly tourneys in private clubs whenever I had time .3 years (!) later I fell in love with the game and cash games specifically. I used to work many hours per day so my volume was pretty low.I was making some money playing 100-200nl avg on private clubs and apps.I thought that there is some potential and joined a regulated site to play.I got crushed really fast.The reason was not that I was so bad as a player(still fish though),but I couldnt control my tilt. I stopped playing and I started reading about the game .I memorised wizzards preflop strategies with small custom simplifications in frequencies,learned some general MDA lines and studied some theory grids in various spots. It has been almost 1 year since I decided to take the game seriously. I reduced my working time to be able to play more poker and keep a balanced (!) life. If I am able to make constant winnings by the end of the summer I will probably go full time.
So I chose GG poker to be the place where I will give my shot.I went straight to 50-100nl rnc and got SWALLOWED by the nitfest and better regs. I used to play in pools full of aggro fish and aggro regs,so my calling button was always hot,a really but habit for this pool. I reviewed my hands and understood that I have to adjust a lot my preflop ranges and general playstyle to a even more aggresive style -overfold friendly.
I dropped stakes and started over from nl 25 rnc. My plan is to play up to 50k hands in each limit and move up if I win.
My study routine for now will be mainly ip srp btn bb.Then hj vs bb .
After 21k hands I was able to beat25NL.I know that the sample is really small but I was feeling really comfortable there and decided to move up to NL50 rnc.
So,atm ://////Stakes :NL50,/////Studying: ip srp early pos. ////Tilt issues :still tilting af
I hope for some advices-guidance from more experienced players.
I will post here my process .
thought process for the following punt :
vs flop cbet : mandatory call. Vs this bet I am floating very wide with almost every bdfd +bdsd
vs turn cbet : here things change a bit ,while in theory I should have called often , I think versus a 100NL reg I should fold .
vs river cbet : here is the spot where the punt comes .. first of all I didnt think that I have any sdv ,even for those pot odds .On the other side , I thought that blocking FH and nut flush were premium properties to turn my hand into a bluff ( I am not a psycho who jams vs blockbets all the time ,I jam vs every size ) . The problem is that the pot odds were way too good, so I cant blame him for calling ( Personally I would fold vs unknown- tight player ).
The interesting part : right after he called ,he typed in the chat 'You cant jam there'. A few hands later that I met him again ,I replied ' why I cant jam ' ?
He replied ' you have no flushes besides 65cc'
I realized that I am a blind man playing cards and promised to myself that I will never bluff again when I am facing aggression(at least if there is not a clear shift on nut advantage)
In the past I was playing like a maniac, trying to win every hand . Actually, you can do that on rnc. There is no point in staying balanced vs unknowns in a pool where none is able to track your stats. And this pool is huge.
You can either overbluff on every node, or underbluff (loosing a ton of value) on every node
I almost folded this one(called at last 1 sec remaining on timebank). But considering the fact that BB has a decent cold 4bet range (capable of bluffing enough) I called. If bb was nitty I would snapfold. Actually, even if BB is loose ,I think folding is the best move there.
punted 2 hero calls for whole stack
The interesting part : right after he called ,he typed in the chat 'You cant jam there'. A few hands later that I met him again ,I replied ' why I cant jam ' ?
He replied ' you have no flushes besides 65cc'
I realized that I am a blind man playing cards and promised to myself that I will never bluff again when I am facing aggression(at least if there is not a clear shift on nut advantage)
v is kinda off about that fwiw - we have QJ/QT/JTcc as well as 66/22, and we can jam as wide as KJ for value anyway
But I think the point still stands, I've come to realize that most of my punts are in spots like this. There is the occasional super aggro reg or fish where you can just print by constantly jamming it in their face, but even the better types of lower stakes regs like this v, who are playing basically solver perfect sizings, can still have their ranges too weighted towards value on later streets when showing aggression to do anything but keep overfolding some turns and rivers
v is kinda off about that fwiw - we have QJ/QT/JTcc as well as 66/22, and we can jam as wide as KJ for value anyway
But I think the point still stands, I've come to realize that most of my punts are in spots like this. There is the occasional super aggro reg or fish where you can just print by constantly jamming it in their face, but even the better types of lower stakes regs like this v, who are playing basically solver perfect sizings, can still have their ranges too weighted towards value on l
when the bet is so small otf you actually should have way more flushes than QJ etch in range by the river ,at least I do and solver does so too. No matter what ,when someone tells you that you have only 65ss in range ,you have to acknowledge that your bluff was a huge - EV and probably the most of your bluffs vs this player in similar spots will be -EV since you are thinking completely different about the game .. Also, I think you are right. In many boards people underbluff in 3oop. I think this specific board is one of those
Also,this week on RNC
Rake given - Rakeback taken (!)
As far as I read jackpot fee is not included in the rake stat on HM3
running so sick
I am disappointed though ,looking at my redline tanking that much
Its the first time in my poker life to run like that , I had never felt before the good side of variance and it doesnt make me happy at all
I wish I could run like that in higher stakes :P
Gonna take a break for 2-3 days and review my game a bit/study
when the bet is so small otf you actually should have way more flushes than QJ etch in range by the river ,at least I do and solver does so too. No matter what ,when someone tells you that you have only 65ss in range ,you have to acknowledge that your bluff was a huge - EV and probably the most of your bluffs vs this player in similar spots will be -EV since you are thinking completely different about the game .. Also, I think you are right. In many boards people underbluff in 3oop. I think th
Oh right yeah I get what you mean, I thought you were saying you believed that guy lol
running so sick
I am disappointed though ,looking at my redline tanking that much
Its the first time in my poker life to run like that , I had never felt before the good side of variance and it doesnt make me happy at all
I wish I could run like that in higher stakes :P
Gonna take a break for 2-3 days and review my game a bit/study
If the worst your redline does is -10bb/100, and for only a stretch, then I wouldn't be too worried about it. Especially since your actual redline is much better than that presumably
Oh right yeah I get what you mean, I thought you were saying you believed that guy lol
If the worst your redline does is -10bb/100, and for only a stretch, then I wouldn't be too worried about it. Especially since your actual redline is much better than that presumably
Actually its not the last session , my red keeps going down for weeks, but whatever, as long as green is good I guess I will be fine
Some hands
Tough spot
Hand has good blockers
But I think that I have to worry about how much he bluffs with T7,T6.
If V is capable and aggro he should know that those combos are good bluffs.If he bluffs them full freq then I am actually loosing vs bluffs
I think though in order to bluff those combos you need to think at least for 2 seconds and he snapped the river
In the last 20 k hands I have completely lost my motivation to play 100 NL. I think the pool is soft. But the winrate that can someone achieve on other sites can be way bigger. Rake & rake back are such raw deals on GG. I have been running SICK in terms of all in EV. I do have experienced very bad postflop variance though.
In my last hands I was playing a lot in B,C game..
Below is the merged graph in BBs of rnc50 and rnc100.
The second graph is rnc100 alone.
So I am gonna play at 200NL.While checking some high volume regs on GG NL200 reg tables , they all have very poor WR due to the insane rake on reg tables.That discourages me from playing there ,so I am thinking about ACR ..
I hate trying to find good tables and bumhunt..its so boring... I just want to play
Most of my winnings are based on pure aggression(not that much out of line,but overbluffed frequencies for sure), something that I am not sure I will be able to keep on reg tables /higher stakes ,so the sooner I start balancing my game ,the better..
rnc50 +rnc100
rnc100
rnc100 stats
edit*
some hands were not imported for unknown reason in the new database that i created to merge the hands,the stats are from the rnc100 database
Yeah I feel ya on the getting bored of a stake.
Do you think it helps keep you motivated by abandoning lower stakes altogether? Or think you’ll mix 200nl at your own pace until 100 kinda disappears after time?
I struggle with jumping stakes and the idea of performing with a (possibly) lower winrate.
I think I was looking a bit back and saw there are still some sick winners on GG so it’s not impossible you stick it out there and endboss it.
Really enjoy reading your thread, good luck. Personally I think you’ll do fine wherever you play
Yeah I feel ya on the getting bored of a stake.
Do you think it helps keep you motivated by abandoning lower stakes altogether? Or think you’ll mix 200nl at your own pace until 100 kinda disappears after time?
I struggle with jumping stakes and the idea of performing with a (possibly) lower winrate.
I think I was looking a bit back and saw there are still some sick winners on GG so it’s not impossible you stick it out there and endboss it.
Really enjoy reading your thread, good luck. Personally
Hello Swerbs,ty for the feedback.
To be honest ,up until now I was able to play in softer tables on apps (overall softer games ,bad regs,plenty of fish). My winnings there were offering me a comfort zone that would allow me to take fast shots on higher stakes.
I dont have this luxury anymore though..(restricted by agents)
Also to my mind ,to jump from 100 to 200 ,is a bigger step than say 50 to 100.
My plan is to actually take a 7 bi shot.If I loose, I will review my hands and try to decide whether my losses come from variance, tilt or poor performance..If its variance I will put another 7bi .In any other case I will drop, regrind , reshot. If I fail on my second attempt(so 28bi lost in total ), I will hire a coach.
But I wouldnt worry about a lower winrate, like,even if your winrate is only the half of the previous stake,you are making the same money,with more rakeback and skill development
I am happy to hear that someone enjoys my thread ( kinda talking to myself here, but it really helps me to stay focused on my goal)
the situation:
thoughts ;
looking at our hand ev is enough to understand that our hand is not even close to nutted
taking a look at Vs strategy
Do you think that 95% of 100nl players play like that ? I do not..
Probably 1 of the most clear folds imo
And the truth is,that you know that you loose at this spot before you call , your gut knows it
Imho this is not a setup or variance , its a pure exploitative fold
Reaching 50k hands in a massive downswing.Its sad and discouraging the fact that I am not able to over come my tilt impact on my game.I just cant .I was running with a winrate of 8.5bb/100 up to 45k hands(not flexing w/r ,I know that the sample is small).Then I ruined everything.Almost all of those 5k hands were played while being super tilted + running bad .I can spot when I am tilted but I dont want to stop playing because I believe that I have to learn how to overcome it and keep grinding.
The Mental Game of Poker has a free pdf I believe. Possibly study that for a bit.
GL OP! Subbed.
I didnt know that this guy streams
Stefan Burakov
Probably one of the most inspiring players for me ( and for many)
I really hope to see him back in action
I didnt know that this guy streams
Stefan Burakov
Probably one of the most inspiring players for me ( and for many)
I really hope to see him back in action
1 day after that I was playing against him at 200 rnc
W/R on 200 rnc for my first 22k hands is -1.8bb/100
Yea its a small sample but I feel like I am not ready to win it
I dont plan to try to establish myself there,there is not much value,but my ego wont allow me to stop playing with a negative W/R
There are plenty of good regs, or at least I consider them better than me at some spots, at the same time there is enough fish/weaker regs(me included ?) to make the pool viable
Up to 100NL people are not much aggro, so I was not working on my defense
But now things are different
I will work a bit on my game and then I will start a prop bet BR challenge there ,for a maximum of 100k hands.
1 day after that I was playing against him at 200 rnc
W/R on 200 rnc for my first 22k hands is -1.8bb/100
Yea its a small sample but I feel like I am not ready to win it
I dont plan to try to establish myself there,there is not much value,but my ego wont allow me to stop playing with a negative W/R
There are plenty of good regs, or at least I consider them better than me at some spots, at the same time there is enough fish/weaker regs(me included ?) to make the pool viable
Up to 100NL people ar
wow nice to see Stefan plays 200RnC, btw how much is rakeback and all bonuses together in terms of BB/100?
can you post some hands where people were much aggro as you say? just interesting to see the difference of aggressiveness compared to lower limits
wow nice to see Stefan plays 200RnC, btw how much is rakeback and all bonuses together in terms of BB/100?
can you post some hands where people were much aggro as you say? just interesting to see the difference of aggressiveness compared to lower limits
there is variance in rakeback
I play through agent ,so when on platinum a reg on average receives his platinum % * 0.35 as far as I know ,mine is a bit higher
from the rakeback that you loose ,a % is given to you through your agent ,depending on the deal that you have made
the other option is to take rakeback through spins,if you are lucky to make a good spin,then your agent receives negative rakeback, and you have to return some of it back,depending on your deal
At least thats what I know
besides the standard rakeback , there is coin drop and BBJ ,
I am not someone who chases leaderboards and I have not calculated how much you take back from there as bb/100
I will post some hands later ,but there is more aggression in general,more Xraising ,more overbetting (many times used in spots where in theory you dont OB), more probing, more triples,more donking,people are calling-hero calling WAY more than 100nl
there is variance in rakeback
I play through agent ,so when on platinum a reg on average receives his platinum % * 0.35 as far as I know ,mine is a bit higher
from the rakeback that you loose ,a % is given to you through your agent ,depending on the deal that you have made
the other option is to take rakeback through spins,if you are lucky to make a good spin,then your agent receives negative rakeback, and you have to return some of it back,depending on your deal
At least thats what I know
besides
i saw your screenshot you hide names by marking, you can just click here and all names will be hidden, look upside right corner, also you can make chips show up in BB on the screenshot
Thanks for the info mate
I discovered this function yesterday
@WPT_GLOBAL , thank you for the lobby folks
all of those are empty
I have initiated the prop bet and I am going to update every 20k hands.
2-3 tables
Playing at morning -afternoon European hours .Pool is way softer at later hours but I am trying to sleep early so I cant play then.
Some hands played recently
Q8 - I dont know about the river, probably huge overbluff if I jam this hand but I think I could get some nice overfold there
QJ- I strongly believed that V is raising me equity driven otf,so I x back ott and otr thinking that I am versus air that I beat,or traps that will never fold
AQ- Its just the theoretical line.. not sure if I need those bluffs vs pool
k6 - In general I overfold a lot preflop vs early positions while I will play to death when on the later positions (this hand shouldnt be in range in rnc preflop format,so I f***ed up a bit)
QT- I dont get this line from V at all both in turn and river. pretty bad hand to turn into a bluff
Every kind of judgement -comments would be appreciated
