2024 Presidential Debate 2 Electric Boogaloo

Well that’s creepy …..

FWIW I think a lot of people think she won for the reason u just exposed to us shrug .
It’s not too much credit , it’s just factual ?
IMHO she could have and actually should have done much better but a win is a win .

Wat?

Trumps closing statement was two minutes of whining. He didnt mention a single thing he would do as president or for the people of the country. He just whined about Kamala and Joe for two minutes.

Maybe he should try trolling less and actually find a real plan to run this country ?
Or is that too creepy for you ?

and now we're defaulting to semantics

Trump just changed his mind on abortion like a week ago so these attacks are very silly. lol

Why lie about the number then? Is he just incapable of telling the truth? Is that really what we want in a president?

so are you of the position that Trump did in fact call white supremacists fine people?

Fine, now dig up every video of Trump lying. See you in a few years.

buddy, if you don't want that in a president then it's time to start a revolution

kamala lied repeatedly giving an incorrect number last night

biden has lied about that stuff all the time, he literally gave speeches copied from a british mp verbatim, not even changing the parts that mentioned personal details about himself and his family

he also ran on being a poor kid who went to school on a full ride and graduated top of his class when in reality there was no such academic scholarship and he literally graduated like 176/183 or something

kamala repeatedly told people in the speech she grew up middle class

while they weren't wealthy but rather upper middle class making 3-4x the the average household, growing up the child the a biologist and professor is an extremely advantageous position compared to the general public

clinton lied repeatedly about his business activities and philandering, bush literally pretended like a kid from an old money connecticut family who's dad was head of cia and president was just some good ole boy from texas, etc etc

they all lie, i think obama perhaps had some integrity and there's no major lies he told to my knowledge, but then again, it could just be as a black man running for office, he knew he'd be held to a higher standard and couldn't get away with it whereas the other did know they could get away with it and did

I have heard the nyc conman has never spoken for ~ two minutes without telling a lie.
And that's with or without a script.

We need to all get on the same page or we're fkd.

Conservatives aren't your enemy. Liberals aren't your enemy. Your enemy is the fascist that are robbing you blind via skewed tax policy, and deregulating industries to the degree that monopolies are the inevitable outcome.

Are any of you old enough to remember when strip malls didn't all look the same? If you have business models today that are primarily about growing as fast as possible, debt be damned, so you can grow before you're eaten, and then sell... you have a broken economy.

If we can't burst outside of tribal political talking points, we'll never actually fix anything, and then we'll just get what we deserve in the end.

The seriousness, magnitude, and volume of lies from trump isn't even close to any president ever. It's off the scale.

Well was she middle class or not ?

Yeah they all lie but no one lied like trump so what’s the problem ?
Just make trump lie less then Harris then we could actually have a real discussion about facts checking if still in favour of harris afterwards ?

You lose all objective credibility Rick, when you attempt to whitewash the truth of what we all saw.

Just the stolen election lie by itself is egregious enough that he should never hold public office again.

But he admitted he lost by a whisker...

... I mean he was being sarcastic...

... no he really meant it...

... actually he did win...

... if only the corrupt courts hadn't thrown out his cases.

smh

look, i repeatedly come off here as a conservative because when someone like lozen or bahbah posts nonsense a dozen people jump in and attack it before i even see the post

when you guys do the same exact thing it gets +1'd

i've said repeatedly that trump in objectively 10x worse

but that doesn't mean harris is then being honest

you guys treat this like a binary world where one candidate must be good and honest and the other is evil and a liar

it's like none of you have ever graduated beyond children's fairy tales and somehow think that's how the world works

trump being a pathological lying pos doesn't mean harris didn't lie as well is all i'm saying and it's incredulous how so many of you will try to pretend like she's some sort of flawless candidate instead of just being honest about what this is

she is a woman who was spoon fed to us being selected by the party and not via a primary and has a lot of flaws but is still 10x better and more qualified than trump - just own that and drop this embarrassing notion that she's somehow an ideal candidate or even honest when it's very unlikely either are true

Trump: “There were very fine people on both sides at Charlottesville!”

Trump supporters: Uh actually he was talking about the 5% of people that weren’t nazis chanting antisemitic stuff

Kamala: I grew up middle class

Trump supporters: Uhhhh ackshually she was UPPER middle class, that’s a lie

lol.

You pretending to be fair-minded is quite entertaining in here. You're not... and it doesn't make you look somehow smarter than the rest of us.

I don't read one single person who thinks that Kamala doesn't or hasn't lied. Not one. But people aren't going to stand for these false equivalences. At least I'm not.

Haha great argument! "Ya she lied last night, but Trump is the biggest lier!!" Nothin Harris said last night was enough to overcome the last 4 years, as much as she tried to separate herself from Biden, voters know.

Exactly.

And the actual truth is, she wasn't upper middle class until they were older. She had a single mom in an era when women, no matter what field, made significantly less than men. Just like my mom. She grew up in an apartment until she was a late teen.

again, this is your bias speaking

not once in my life have i voted for a republican candidate

Intelligent people understand there's a difference in the lies you tell.

Watch...

Which person would you be ok hanging with alone?

A person who lied about killing someone.

or

A person who lied about their background.