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My point is that claiming chineses eating bats caused covid damages that ethnicity a lot more than claiming haitians eat cats.
Whether it's true or not, if the threshold to decide whether to make a statement about a behaviour connected with an ethnicity is "racism", in the expansive leftist definition, ie the idea that ethnicity will suffer negative repercussions from that claim (again, regardless of the truth of that claim), then people who went with "chinese eat bats that's how we got covid" CA
I agree that saying covid was caused by chinese people who eat bats is racist
I don't know how its relevant here except as a tool for you to discredit people calling this Haitian narrative racist
China virus was a Trump colloquialism so framing it as "Dems racist" is also incredibly questionable
I agree that saying covid was caused by chinese people who eat bats is racist
I don't know how its relevant here except as a tool for you to discredit people calling this Haitian narrative racist
China virus was a Trump colloquialism so framing it as "Dems racist" is also incredibly questionable
See the projection? i didn't frame is as "dems racist". I framed it as "people who talked about chinese people eating bats". That was a lot of rightwing people as well.
I am just saying you had to call that racist as well if you want to call the "haitians-eat-cats" racist
See the projection? i didn't frame is as "dems racist". I framed it as "people who talked about chinese people eating bats". That was a lot of rightwing people as well.
I am just saying you had to call that racist as well if you want to call the "haitians-eat-cats" racist
The Ven Diagram overlap of people calling haitians eating cats racist and republicans is basically non-existent
Which makes this comment nonsense
If Haitians are going around eating people’s pets they should obviously be condemned, but where is the evidence?
There are a lot of stereotypes about Magas. Low intelligence, low performing, violent, welfare dependent etc. I don't think it would be okay for Harris to amplify these stereotypes by mentioning a story about a gang of maga hatted rapists going around in Macon, GA and raping regular, productive members of society. Then fall back on well some Magas are rapists and Magas are statistically more likely to rape when called out on the fact that the GA gang rapist story is just made up.
I heard that they were eating the ducks not cats and dogs?
I am not sure if this is true but the population of Springfield is 60,000 and they sent 20,000 Haitians there. The other rumor is all the accidents they are causing
I heard that they were eating the ducks not cats and dogs?
I am not sure if this is true but the population of Springfield is 60,000 and they sent 20,000 Haitians there. The other rumor is all the accidents they are causing
What ever happened to the good ole days when democrats were eating babies
Spoiler
This Springfield thing is right up there with the Bowling Green Massacre.
lol at trying to categorize the colonel as anything but a terrible person and poster.
stop lying!
so many lies!!
how come you only lie???
nothing but lies from you guys!!
the lies here are terrible!!!!
abortion is orthogonal to fascism.
Abortion is about when the thing inside the womb becomes a person with rights. That's what the disagreement is about.
It's not orthagonal to political ideology. Most people would agree that a certain category of abortion should be illegal if it is actually murder (with certain extreme exceptions) and legal if it is not murder. But most people consciously or unconsciously cheat when forming their original premise. They have other reasons to support or oppose various categories of abortion and since they know that those reasons are never enough to overcome the conclusion reached by the murder/not murder question, they go backwards in their mind and adjust their original premise to coincide with the conclusion they want to reach.
I used to complain a ton about Fly and Trolly because their posts were always laced with insults and then I would insult them back but my insults were too on the nose so I'd be the one getting reprimanded.
"Go read a book"
I heard that they were eating the ducks not cats and dogs?
I am not sure if this is true but the population of Springfield is 60,000 and they sent 20,000 Haitians there. The other rumor is all the accidents they are causing
Exactly. This is going to be culture shock to pretty much everyone, even the most tolerant of people. But instead of offering a fair-minded view of how this would affect a small town in meaningful ways, MAGA decides to hyperbolize this point and racialize by claiming Haitians are eating their neighbors pets.
And we all know why they're doing it. But what they fail to realize, imho, was an opportunity to talk about major population shifts because of mass immigration in the meaningful and thoughtful way. They could have had more moderate and fair-minded people actually caring about their grievance, but they blew it and instead decided to throw red meat to their base.
But hey, we got some funny fkn memes out of it, so...
abortion isn't a right in the human declaration of rights, and isn't a right in the charter of fundamental rights of the european union, it isn't a right under the federal american constitution either.
It was never a right, at most it's something that is tolerated with some limits, because of the inherent balancing of 2 rights, freedom of the woman vs the life of the thing that's going to get killed.
Normal people get it that a 1 month fetus is insignificant compared to a 7 months one, then among
We get it - you're not a woman.
It's not orthagonal to political ideology. Most people would agree that a certain category of abortion should be illegal if it is actually murder (with certain extreme exceptions) and legal if it is not murder. But most people consciously or unconsciously cheat when forming their original premise. They have other reasons to support or oppose various categories of abortion and since they know that those reasons are never enough to overcome the conclusion reached by the murder/not murder question,
That's Oscar Wide-level eloquence.
There are a lot of stereotypes about Magas. Low intelligence, low performing, violent, welfare dependent etc.
So unreliable and low-performing in fact that Springfield had to actively recruit Haitian immigrants to fill in the jobs that the locals are too incompetent/drug-addled to perform.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/haitian...
Amazingly, the same people who allegedly oppose "DEI hires" now want the federal government to actually deport more-qualified workers and replace them with workers of their preferred ethnicity, ya can't make this up, folks.
It's not orthagonal to political ideology. Most people would agree that a certain category of abortion should be illegal if it is actually murder (with certain extreme exceptions) and legal if it is not murder. But most people consciously or unconsciously cheat when forming their original premise. They have other reasons to support or oppose various categories of abortion and since they know that those reasons are never enough to overcome the conclusion reached by the murder/not murder question,
Most people? I don't disagree w/ what you're saying if you applied this to a lot of topics. Abortion is obviously a tricky one.
The original Roe ruling is pretty fair-minded, and I think that's why most people agree with it. Are people who agree w/ it unconsciously doing so because they want abortion legal?
This is why the MAGA argument of returning abortion rights back to the states is so disingenuous, because it already was under the purview of states rights after the first trimester. They just want to outright ban abortion, regardless of any timeline or situation. This is why there's validity behind the argument that this is about controlling women.
This is a summary of the ruling:
First Trimester: During the first three months of pregnancy, the decision to have an abortion was left entirely to the woman and her doctor. The state could not interfere.
Second Trimester: In the second trimester, the state could impose regulations reasonably related to maternal health but could not prohibit abortions.
Third Trimester: Once the fetus reached viability (the point at which it could potentially survive outside the womb, generally around 24 weeks), the state could regulate or even prohibit abortions, except when necessary to protect the life or health of the mother.
How do you get any more fair-minded about this than that, considering how complicated this topic is?
