Moderation Questions

Moderation Questions

The last iteration of the moderation discussion thread was a complete disaster. Numerous attempts to keep it on topic fa

30 January 2024 at 05:27 AM
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You forgot a couple of sources:

The View
MSNBC


Guys, this isn't hard. Whatever the word "racism" originally meant; in modern parlance it is very simple.

If you say anything negative about a group that isn't coded "white", then it is racist. So saying something negative about Haitians is racist, regardless of whether it is true or intent.

Glad I could help clear things up.


by Dunyain

Guys, this isn't hard. Whatever the word "racism" originally meant; in modern parlance it is very simple.

If you say anything negative about a group that isn't coded "white", then it is racist. So saying something negative about Haitians is racist, regardless of whether it is true or intent.

Glad I could help clear things up.

The (perceived) oppressed racial identity is sacred. And therefore pure. Woke 101.


by craig1120

The (perceived) oppressed racial identity is sacred. And therefore pure. Woke 101.

This is fun to say, but I'm not convinced that this is how people actually think. If I selected a few hundred people from any group, I would expect some of them to be truly terrible.


by Rococo

This is fun to say, but I'm not convinced that this is how people actually think. If I selected a few hundred people from any group, I would expect some of them to be truly terrible.

People are double minded and adapt to social context.


by craig1120

People are double minded and adapt to social context.

Double minded?


by Rococo

Double minded?

Means "they can be widely incoherent"


by Rococo

Double minded?

People will act out a belief and when confronted, they’ll deny + rationalize to themselves that they don’t actually believe what they’re acting out.


by Rococo

Double minded?


by craig1120

People will act out a belief and when confronted, they’ll deny + rationalize to themselves that they don’t actually believe what they’re acting out.

I can't speak for everyone, but I don't think that I have ever "acted out" a belief that is contrary to what I wrote above.


by Luciom

Means "they can be widely incoherent"

Double minded means incoherent?


by Rococo

I can't speak for everyone, but I don't think that I have ever "acted out" a belief that is contrary to what I wrote above.

Do you know any person who at the same time is pro LGBT rights and not fervently inimical , as a core threat to his values, of radical islam?


by Rococo

Double minded means incoherent?

Yes in Craig parlance it means being able to hold completly incompatible beliefs


Double minded: Having a social conscience + a private conscience

Surely, the above is recognizable?


by Luciom

Do you know any person who at the same time is pro LGBT rights and not fervently inimical , as a core threat to his values, of radical islam?

I haven't polled everyone I know, but I would expect most people I know who are pro-LGBT rights to also be highly critical of how LGBT people are treated in Islamic theocracies.


wait, do you mean 2 selves?


by Rococo

I haven't polled everyone I know, but I would expect most people I know who are pro-LGBT rights to also be highly critical of how LGBT people are treated in Islamic theocracies.

maybe for our generation (i've seen the queers for palestine shirt out in the wild as well)



by craig1120

Double minded: Having a social conscience + a private conscience

Surely, the above is recognizable?

Not entirely. As usual, I find you very difficult to understand. If, by "social conscience," you mean the conscience that you put on display for others, then I have some idea of what you mean.


by Rococo

I haven't polled everyone I know, but I would expect most people I know who are pro-LGBT rights to also be highly critical of how LGBT people are treated in Islamic theocracies.

Which is why we see so many protests, donations against, organized political activity against all those countries interfering with american politics?

Qatar donates to all major leftist causes in academia and it's a crime to have homosexuals acts there (up to 3 years for non Muslims, theoretically up to death for Muslims under Sharia law)

Any of you friends ever mentioned how morally horrific and completely indefensible it is for an American in academia to financially benefit from funds donated by Qatar? No?


by Rococo

Not entirely. As usual, I find you very difficult to understand. If, by "social conscience," you mean the conscience that you put on display for others, then I have some idea of what you mean.

Question: How could anyone go beyond their social conditioning unless there is another conscience besides the social conscience?


by rickroll

maybe for our generation (i've seen the queers for palestine shirt out in the wild as well)

I obviously don't know the person in the picture, but I don't find anything particularly incoherent about a gay person having empathy for displaced Palestinian civilians.


by Rococo

I obviously don't know the person in the picture, but I don't find anything particularly incoherent about a gay person having empathy for displaced Palestinian civilians.

I think focusing on the message and the coherency of the message misses the point. The purpose of this type of messaging is to signal tribal solidarity; and the epistemological foundation of the message is mostly irrelevant.


by Luciom

Which is why we see so many protests, donations against, organized political activity against all those countries interfering with american politics?Qatar donates to all major leftist causes in academia and it's a crime to have homosexuals acts there (up to 3 years for non Muslims, theoretically up to death for Muslims under Sharia law)Any of you friends ever mentioned how mora

Qatari donations to American universities might be accurately described as a form of pro-Arab propaganda. I wouldn't call it "leftist." I don't think this phenomenon is unique to Arab countries, or Qatar specifically. I just found an article which said that Germany gave the University of Pennsylvania $1.2 billion in 2018.

In response to your question, I don't recall discussing this issue pro or con with anyone who works in academia.


by Rococo

I obviously don't know the person in the picture, but I don't find anything particularly incoherent about a gay person having empathy for displaced Palestinian civilians.



by craig1120

Question: How could anyone go beyond their social conditioning unless there is another conscience besides the social conscience?

I still don't know what you mean by social conscience, so I have no way to answer this question.

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