The "LOLCANADA" thread...again

When we compare us to the USA we suck .

Last night was clear Good Bye Trudeau

Nope US has higher inflation rate than Canada.

GREAT JOB TRUDEAU.

Its about all the numbers not just inflation . Unemployment , economic predictions moving forward, consumer confidence

Just just lost 2 of the safest seats which tells you how confident CDN's are with him

How about cost of living?

I heard differently but possibly not enough yet .
Like liberal 20 deputies (some old ministers) are leaving too for next election .

Being blind won’t help you or Trudeau .
Inflation has nothing to do with it.

Canadian are just tired of Trudeau and they are clearly saying it twice now …
The lost of Trudeau will be far less problematic then having polievre with majority if Trudeau try to stay ….

He lost 2 red hot liberal counties in Toronto and Quebec .
That is extremely problematic .
We are talking core liberal base , not in western Canada …

People are now voting against Trudeau regardless his policies or success.

Oh I completely agree. People aren't listening to policies right now. I don't think it is really helpful to point out that his policies are REALLY GOOD and that his government has been REALLY SUCCESSFUL on quite a long list of metrics, tamping down inflation just one such example. Nine years is just really long in the tooth, and few incumbent politicians globally have weathered the multiple crises that covid spawned like inflation well, people are absolutely eating up all the populist rhetoric.

Still, somehow, those policy successes should still be noted.

Lol. You said something stupid, responding to point about low inflation by saying whatabouttheUS. When you were showing to be objectively wrong - Canada has lower inflation than the US - you went whataboutalltheseothermetrics. Sometimes the point is just correcting your errors. Some metrics Canada is better, some metrics the US is better, but you were wrong to play the whatabouttheUS card on the metric being discussed.

Populist rhetoric is the reason why Trudeau's support collapsed nation wide?

One thing I will admit is that over half the population generally makes a lot of bad and sub optimal decisions with their lives, which leads to worst outcomes later on for their own personal situation.

For example, not getting an education because they were lazy and would rather party -> which leads to worst financial situation later on.
Spending money uselessly when they can't afford it and going into debt for it, with no savings.
Not making any effort to improve their skills in the workforce to ensure more money and value so their incomes are stagnant.

Continual frustration about how their lives are not where it should be. This happens regardless of which political party is in power. And if Trudeau was in power for 9 years, and in those 9 years their lives didn't really improve, they will point the finger at someone and not take agency for their own decisions.

The low IQ lefty side will blame rich people for why they are broke and poor (they will never take personal responsibility for it) and vote for politicians that promise to raise taxes on the rich. The low IQ righty side will blame immigrants and other forces for why their lives are crappy and vote for politicians that promise to reverse those decisions.

So in a way, no matter who is in power, after 5-10 years they will get thrown out.

This happened to Harper.

He was cold but intelligent and level headed, but people couldn't stand him anymore for X reasons.

Did you read the rest of the sentence? Yes I think poilievre is doing a fantastic job leveraging populist rhetoric, but that can't be separated from the rest of my comment that it is this particular moment in history where in country after country the high inflation high housing post covid era is making an environment particularly conducive for populist rhetoric. I think in the harper era for instance, the same kind of rhetoric doesn't really work as well.

What successes they have been minimal. I cant think of a PM that has been embroiled in more scandals than justin Trudeau.

After those two ridings being lost the only reasonable option for Justin is to resign

Though Kudos to Justin calling for a non confidence vote next week. He will expose Jagmeet for what he is Justin's little bxxch

there's a statistic that after a decade every pm just losses popularity drasticly. Jt is already one of the longest pms about the same length as harper. Even if there's some good **** there just too many failed promises to get elected by any party at this point regardless of political leanings. you can't bullshit like all politicians do when you had a 10 year track record

Its not super healthy for one party to be in power for over a decade either. And it probably has more to do with the party then the prime minister too/ 10-12 year party runs are historically bad in any democracy and extending it would be no different. If the far left like uke_master here were smart they would have been pushing the ndp for awhile. You Cant have one party in power for 20 years democracy's need balance

can you guys explain Japan then, where the same party governed for 70+ years with only one interruption?

I assume its a unique case. Its used to being emperor ruled and I assume its not the west minister system . Doesn't sounds like a democracy to me . the Liberal Democratic has only been in power for 12 years. and it looks like several interruptions. Japanese are also just different mate.

I bet whoever they use to form a government / majority is the same as changing a the party for them so they balance and change policy's based on that by the secondary party having pull

Explain Singapore then, same thing with even more extreme votin gpatterns in favour of the "main party".

Or Italy, with democrazia cristiana in power (in coalition governments) from 1946 to 1991 uninterruptedly.

Sure there might be some cases but outside of italy im not surprised and even then it sounds like it was mostly coalition governments (they still change political ideology based on who they merge with)

Anyway were talking Canada here not Asian isolationist country's with zero immigration. They call it the 1955 System also known as the one and a half party system. key being the half. When the halfs in and they form a coalition its less conservative and more liberal policies get enacted. then they have an election and they get a majority and they push their crazy racist isolationist japanese policys. The end result is the same idea

I would also add in Canada is a large country unlike the other two with each area having its own interests. Also add in the special needs child we call Quebec and its a tough country to govern.

Also add in when you barely keep any of your original campaign promises your destined to lose sooner than later. Kudo's to Justin for hanging on as long as he did he had a great first 6 months but it was downhill from there.

And what special needs quebec have ?
You saying west Canada do not have their own needs to ?
lol…

Cmon you live in Quebec. Does any other province have a federal party based on separation from Canada? Distinct Language laws, use of the not withstanding clause as often,

As for the west Yes Alberta and Saskatchewan are farming and resources while Ontario is manufacturing. So when Justin imposes 100% tariffs on Chinese electric cars it screws Alberta and Saskatchewan when China retaliates

I'm not the "far left". On my top issue - climate change - it is just objectively clear that today as in 2015 the Liberals are simply better with a genuine pragmatic plan to make a difference, while the NDP flounders fecklessly. Maybe I can be accused of "far left" on this particular file, although I don't think advocating that Canada do some minimal things to reduce our emissions should be thought of as far left. And on a lot of other issues I'm fairly technocratic and non-partisan as opposed to "far left".

That statement is just false. Everything the liberals are doing will have zero effect on climate change . I would not even put you on the far left on climate change though on the trans issue I have you on the far left and I suspect on Israel / Palestine as well. Though many here consider me far right Maga.

This politics forum leans heavily to the left as well

It's always amusing when conservatives claim the carbon tax is so super horrible and destroying everything, but also doesn't do anything at all. Like you can't have it both ways guys. Like if the unit of analysis is "global emissions" where we just pretend Canada has no role to play in the global solution, then the unit of analysis economically should be "global economy" and guess what the carbon tax in Canada alone has "zero effect" on the global economy lolololololololololololol.

It is kinda funny how I think I've made exactly zero posts on the israel/palestine thread and yet magically you just imagine I'm on the "far left" there. Really sad to see how your partisanship invades everything.