Moderation Questions
The last iteration of the moderation discussion thread was a complete disaster. Numerous attempts to keep it on topic fa
In any case, rickroll was inferring based on absolutely nothing that I was defending how gay people are treated in many Arab countries when, in fact, I never did anything of the sort.
but then why contest it?obviously you can see why they are doing it because disenfranchised groups tend to band together with other disenfranchised groups (hence how T+ got lumped in with LGBQ)but that's just insane, if they go to Gaza right now protesting like that with queers for gaza at the very least they'll be soon pelted by rocksthis is basically like protesting queers fo
conservatives should really take note of how the liberals do racism. or is it xenophobia?... I dunno. regardless, this a lot more effective.
Babe Ruth esque
vic, i largely agree with a a very toned down version of a lot of what you post
but you always take it to absurdist extremes like Putin>America etc etc
but if you lived in the middle east and made the same posts you made here about how evil the government was you'd wake up one night to knocks on your door
just complete bonkers how you can correctly see all the evil in the US without being able to also see it in other places of the world, you assume we have a monopoly on it, which is insane
rickroll, it's also worth noting that populations are rarely homogenous in their beliefs and that many people who are suffering do not fully endorse the views of their government.
being islamophobic for gay rights while also being a transphobe is indeed incredible
not sure it's all that effective, but very funny yeah
Truly an injustice of our time that Always sunny has never won an Emmy or even been nominated in one of the main categories. Snub of our lives iyam.
I’ve mentioned how I think it’s important for the USA to have a unifying national identity rather than merely see itself as an economic zone.
I’ve mentioned how the Declaration of Independence was about the moral high ground. The underlying idea is that if we take the morally right action, if we do what is right, then we will get closer to the good life (lasting goodness). In this way, the USA is an aspirational country aimed at lasting goodness for all.
To be an aspirational American aimed at lasting goodness through a morality mindset, this requires one to not be in a survival mindset. The purpose, then, of our social programs and safety net is to assist Americans in transcending the survival mode and NOT to attempt to provide them with the good life, which, again, must be pursued in the moral domain through right action.
Thoughts?
No, it was about continuing slavery in defiance of Lord Mansfield's ruling in the Court of Appeal in England, which found that slavery was not lawful. That's all it was ever about, and the rebel leaders were slavers who just wanted to carry on slaving because they couldn't make an income otherwise.
Craig, this is the moderation thread.
Haven’t we already been through several prior versions of this too?
At least give him a chance to crowbar Jesus in as usual before you close the derail down.
No, it was about continuing slavery in defiance of Lord Mansfield's ruling in the Court of Appeal in England, which found that slavery was not lawful. That's all it was ever about, and the rebel leaders were slavers who just wanted to carry on slaving because they couldn't make an income otherwise.
Can you point out specifically where this is mentioned in the DoI?

I’ve mentioned how I think it’s important for the USA to have a unifying national identity rather than merely see itself as an economic zone.I’ve mentioned how the Declaration of Independence was about the moral high ground. The underlying idea is that if we take the morally right action, if we do what is right, then we will get closer to the good life (lasting goodness). In th
Cool, since it's allowed, say all that again in English and I'll give you thoughts.
My thought is for my proposed meaning of American identity, don’t we already act this out - right action leads to the good life?
Nobody should object to this form of national identity, right?
Having an explicit national identity like the one I’m proposing will help prevent less desirable national identities from (re)surfacing.
My thought is for my proposed meaning of American identity, don’t we already act this out - right action leads to the good life?
Nobody should object to this form of national identity, right?
Having an explicit national identity like the one I’m proposing will help prevent less desirable national identities from (re)surfacing.
Right action often leads to a shitty life but is necessary anyway.
Which national identities do you think are less desirable?
Craig, this is the moderation thread.
Haven’t we already been through several prior versions of this too?
He started a thread about the topic. You said the post could be used to justify white supremacy or something like that and then deleted it. It was obvious that wasn't what he was going for, and it could have led to an interesting discussion. However, it might be better suited for the philosophy forum.
He started a thread about the topic. You said the post could be used to justify white supremacy or something like that and then deleted it. It was obvious that wasn't what he was going for, and it could have led to an interesting discussion. However, it might be better suited for the philosophy forum.
It has never been obvious what craig was going for.
Right action often leads to a shitty life but is necessary anyway.
Which national identities do you think are less desirable?
I think the idea I’m trying to articulate is that the good life is a bottom-up pursuit, but people will always initially seek a top-down solution. So, unless you have an explicit national identity which emphasizes the bottom-up solution, then you get the increasing disfunction we have now.
I’m making a pro Protestant point and saying the political class in the USA has simply replaced the Catholic Church of old as the providers of lasting goodness. They can’t deliver on any of their promises either.
Thus, the need for a recovered national identity to get this country back on track. This national identity will have to come from outside of the political class for the reasons mentioned.