2024 ELECTION THREAD

2024 ELECTION THREAD

The next presidential race will be here soon! Please see current Bovada odds. Thoughts?

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14 July 2022 at 02:28 PM
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I've had alligator once and it was delicious fwiw.

(Was not a pet alligator)


Strange meats are usually just meh anyway. I’ve had kangaroo and emu. Both just meh.

Bear, however, was delicious…


I thought alligator was meh every time I’ve had it. How was yours prepared? Maybe I’m missing out..

Crocodile was also meh.


by pocket_zeros k

Or I'll just ask them to take me to 武汉华南海鲜批发市场.

keep on raging bruh


by Crossnerd k

I thought alligator was meh every time I’ve had it. How was yours prepared? Maybe I’m missing out..

Iirc it was marinated in something like a vinaigrette and grilled and came out super tender.


Fried alligator can be fantasy but it can also taste like gamey fish


by rickroll k

keep on raging bruh

Huh?


by pocket_zeros k

I didn't read much basis in your response to match your outrage with what the article actually got wrong.

I had a similar reaction. Nothing about that article would have led me to believe that most people in China eat civet cats or whatever. Could I buy a live frog, turtle, etc. in a market in southern China? Sure, I assume so, but I can buy that stuff at a Chinese market in Flushing also.

I bought a whole duck at a market in Chinatown a few years ago. When the butcher threw it in the bag, i saw that the head and feet were still attached, which didn't surprise me at all. I was a little surprised when I got home and realized the duck hadn't been gutted either.

I can't say that enjoyed cleaning duck innards out of my sink, but what I made with the duck was super tasty.


by Crossnerd k

Smartdfs, the allegation that Haitians, a predominantly black population, eat pets and that eating cats and dogs is part of their culture is rooted in the historical context of racial bias that populations of color are inherently and/or evolutionarily less “civilized” that white populations.

Plenty of white people end up naming animals they raise and then kill them for food/market too. Whether that rises to the level of pets is debatable but some are very well cared for a good while/loved before they're killed and eaten 😀


by coordi k

Fried alligator can be fantasy but it can also taste like gamey fish

Fried alligator is much like any fried meat. Often tasty. Never sublime.


by Crossnerd k

Strange meats are usually just meh anyway. I’ve had kangaroo and emu. Both just meh.

Agree on both of these.

Bear, however, was delicious…

Never tried it, but I always assumed it would be gamey as hell.


by pocket_zeros k

Huh?

that market never sold bat nor pangolin...


Florida's not going battleground. If he instead said it was a bunch of filthy rapist Cubans in eating pets that might have made it a little interesting, but I doubt it. There's no reason to expect anything DJT says will make his supporters switch sides, even though every time he does I see people talking like it will, and then as usual nothing changes.

Especially on racial issues where it concerns citizens of whatever ethnicity. Despite the old-school thinking everything I actually see (esp w/ regard to the Latino population) suggests their votes are more aligned with class than heritage anyway. The Democratic party seems to be figuring that out finally, although the huge wave of new blue voters that never happened with the surge in Latino population should have clued them in years ago.


by Rococo k

Never tried it, but I always assumed it would be gamey as hell.

It was very fatty and tender!


For most of modern human history, it was more common to see people of limited means eating "weird" wild animals or "weird" parts of domestic animals. But that certainly isn't true in the modern United States in my experience. If you compiled a list of every person in the United States who had eaten rattlesnake, pig stomach, and turtle in the last ten years, I strongly suspect that the median wealth of people in the group would be higher than the median wealth of the entire population.


by rickroll k

that market never sold bat nor pangolin...

The NYT article I linked didn't claim that it did.


by Rococo k

For most of modern human history, it was more common to see people of limited means eating "weird" wild animals or "weird" parts of domestic animals. But that certainly isn't true in the modern United States in my experience. If you compiled a list of every person in the United States who had eaten rattlesnake, pig stomach, and turtle in the last ten years, I strongly suspect that the median wealth of people in the group would be higher than the median wealth of the entire population.

I share this suspicion.


by Crossnerd k

It was very fatty and tender!

It's still considered "upper class" for some reason in Russia, or at least that's what I thought when I saw it offered in Michelin star restaurants there some years ago.

Super fatty yep, melts quickly, unexpected for me


by pocket_zeros k

The NYT article I linked didn't claim that it did.

exactly, it's just a hit piece

no different than if russian journalists went around talking about how wild and crazy the bear and rattlesnake markets are in american and started quoting morrissey

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2014/j...


perhaps he was one of those 19 scientists?


by rickroll k

exactly, it's just a hit piece

no different than if russian journalists went around talking about how wild and crazy the bear and rattlesnake markets are in american and started quoting morrissey

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2014/j...

perhaps he was one of those 19 scientists?

The previous epidemic in 2002 was traced to the sale of wild animals. Why was it a hit piece to suggest the new outbreak developing at the time could also be caused by the same thing?


Laura Loomer Rages After Maher Suggests She’s in ‘Arranged Relationship’ With Trump to Affect Election: ‘Beyond the Pale’

Far-right activist Laura Loomer floated suing Bill Maher after the comedian suggested on Real Time that she and former President Donald Trump are are having an affair.

On Friday’s Real Time, Maher noted that Loomer had previously suggested Taylor Swift is in an “arranged relationship” with Travis Kelce to influence the 2024 presidential election before he accused Loomer of the same thing. Swift recently endorsed Vice President Kamala Harris.

“I think maybe Laura Loomer’s in an arranged relationship to influence the election because she’s very close to Trump. She’s 31, looks like his type,” Maher said.

Loomer fired back in an X post, calling Maher’s statements “beyond the pale” and accusing the “mainstream media” of pushing a “coordinated attack” against her by suggesting there is more to her relationship to Trump than professional.

Source: https://www.mediaite.com/tv/laura-loomer...

So the woman who recently said Democrats should be executed thinks that suggesting she's having an affair with Trump is "beyond the pale". It's interesting to see how these wingnuts' minds work.


by pocket_zeros k

The previous epidemic in 2002 was traced to the sale of wild animals. Why was it a hit piece to suggest the new outbreak developing at the time could also be caused by the same thing?

i've been over this, the article is intentionally constructed for shock and awe and written to let the reader assume these are typical things found at any market - he's like trolly who carefully constructs his posts to not actually catch a ban but it's obvious to anyone reading it what he's really saying

writing it that way it gets reactions which lead to people sharing it with "look at what the chinese eat" and you get clicks and views and paywall subs

it worked well, author won a pullitzer in 2021


by rickroll k

i've been over this, the article is intentionally constructed for shock and awe and written to let the reader assume these are typical things found at any market - he's like trolly who carefully constructs his posts to not actually catch a ban but it's obvious to anyone reading it what he's really saying

writing it that way it gets reactions which lead to people sharing it with "look at what the chinese eat" and you get clicks and views and paywall subs

it worked well, author won a pullitzer in 20

Are we reading the same article? Here are some excerpts:

The latest outbreak — the scope of which is still unfolding — has led to calls inside and outside of China for better regulations or even an end to this kind of culinary adventurism. While turtle and boar meat are not uncommon in Chinese restaurants, game meats such as civet cats, snakes or pangolins tend to be considered specialties only in some regions.

According to a medical blog posted on WeChat, the health authorities in Wuhan visited the market in September and inspected eight vendors selling frogs, snakes and hedgehogs, among other animals. All were licensed to sell wildlife, and no violations were found.

Despite the spread of the virus around the country, a Hong Kong television network, I-Cable News Channel, found scores of wild animals still for sale on Wednesday at a market in Qingyuan, a city in Guangdong, the province where SARS originated.



by pocket_zeros k

Are we reading the same article? Here are some excerpts:

The latest outbreak — the scope of which is still unfolding — has led to calls inside and outside of China for better regulations or even an end to this kind of culinary adventurism. While turtle and boar meat are not uncommon in Chinese restaurants, game meats such as civet cats, snakes or pangolins tend to be considered specialties only in some regions.

conservatives should really take note of how the liberals do racism. or is it xenophobia?... I dunno. regardless, this a lot more effective.

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