The "LOLCANADA" thread...again

The point is the carbon tax does nothing to reduce forest fires or bring back white Christmases all it does is increase the cost of goods. IO thought we once had a bit of a spat over Israel/Palestine
No question your extreme on the trans issue.

The reality is if I vote conservative life will be better as I will not be paying a carbon tax as the Premier of BC says he will remove it thus making the cost of living lower . If Pierre has no plan it will have the same impact on climate change as Justin's plan

This is just silly word play. The point of carbon tax is to reduce CANADAs emissions because that increased cost of high carbon emitting goods shifts people's behaviours. Nobody but your silly strawman pretends that Canada acting alone magically changes global emissions, but collectively we can mitigate the worst effects of climate change by acting.

That might be true. You and I as relatively high income people are net losers to the carbon tax in BC. But a lot of poorer people in BC are net winners. It is much more progressive than the federal tax this way (and less deficit neutral). So in BC a whole bunch of poorer people will be a whole bunch worse off.

Exporting gaz either won’t reduce emission but u all for it .

That’s false the USA under Trump led the G7 on reducing emissions and that all came from converting coal fired generation stations to natural gas .

Why are we turning down countries that want our LNG

How does intern Quebec governing influence the western Canada at all ?
Yes distinct langage law because I know French was at the base of Canada creation .
Why does that disturb you ?
Are u suggesting I should abolish my ancestral
Roots for your pleasure ?
20% of Canadian are French descendants and around 85% are French descendants in Quebec .

So you asking what exactly ?
1 person in 5 in Canada should stop speak French and 8 person in 10 should eradicate their primary language to pleasure some people living outside of Quebec at like 20 hours car drive ?
U realize are dumb that sound ?

Bloc Québécois is a regional party , like many existed before aka reform party was previously, before merging with the PC .
As for separation, please Alberta many times bringing it forward to separate lately ….or not respecting federal laws (daniel smith own words , need a quote ?)
So when it’s your side it’s ok ? lol….
Anyway why would you be the judge on deciding what is acceptable or not for a political party to exist ?

Yes every province can use the non withstanding clause , it’s even the constitution so cry more for no reason ….

Yes sometime some provinces gets screw by the federal , sometimes it’s the west , sometimes it’s the center and others it’s the east ?
U just discovered that ?
U sound like a kid that always cry when he doesn’t always has his candies while already have the biggest candy bag in Canada (Alberta gdp per capita is the highest ) .

But again all those you enumerated affect nothing how Canada is being run .
Canada job is judt to send money to provinces and regulated some social aspect that affect all Canadians, military , etc.

Federal has some power and each provinces got some power too .
Canada is a great country and only selfish people can’t appreciate how lucky we are that each part of Canada is beneficial for the rest of us .
If one side goes bad , the other side takes over to help .
That is why it is called a good diversify economy .

I love Quebec and Quebec City is my favourite. Doesn’t mean it can’t be Canadas special needs province . I’m fine with French I’m not fine with Quebec French language laws .

I live in BC now but heart will always be with Alberta
Please tell me how many times Alberta has voted to leave Canada and how many times Quebec has

Yall western Canadians whining non stop about Quebec.... Yall hit oil and think yall special and deserving.

Send us those transfer monies and deal with it.

Alberta is just an American Houston, suburbs everywhere, highways everywhere and oil.

Well if your spending your time supporting a party after a decade that has already lost your certainly not center. I am sure your energy would be better spent elsewhere (like the ndp or green party) the writings on the wall those partys in theory should be better for climate change. What do we think the Vegas odds are for a liberal majority government? 1%?

IF your #1 political priority is climate change in a smallish northern climate country your far left....

I worry about climate change too but it sure as hell ain't number 1. I do think its a serious problem

+1

Again how does that make hard for Canada to be govern ?
You don’t like Laws in Quebec then stay out shrug .
You hear many quebeckers complains about alberta ?
Because we agree and respect the principle of provincial
Juridiction , you should try it .

Btw 8 millions French are surrounded by about 350 millions English think about it for a second …..
Nothing wrong trying to protected our culture .
And if only you knew a bit of history on why those laws been enacted .

You know what quebeckers do when they want to communicate with others ? Well they learn something new like a language….
My gf speak 4 ….

Just be happy you don’t have too since English is very popular it’s a benefit to you and u complain on others having to learn English becaus it ain’t their primary language ?
Wtf ….

Ps: some people protect crazy imaginary stories like religions , do you complain about that ?
You complain about native Canadians Protecting their culture too?

Agreed my point was were a large diverse country with each province having its own needs and interests. My point about Quebec with all its seats and perceived special status makes it a harder country than many of these smaller countries that have had the same leaders .
As well we have always been a resource based economy as whole which as much as many would like to change is not going to happen and quoting one leader on his way out

This doesn't make any sense, if I support the center party then I am "certainly not center"??? I have a whole rolodex of reasons to think the NDP are NOT in fact better for climate change (See recent statements by BC and federal NDP on carbon tax as the most recent), while the Liberals actually introduced a tonne of genuine policies on this file that I think are technocratically pretty great. And it isn't like the NDP or the greens have a 1% chance of forming a majority government either.

Lots of voters have specific issues that they care about most. In my view over decades a lot of the sort of domestic issues and culture war issues they come and they go, like we should expect left and right with government, periods of austerity periods of spending, bull markets and bear markets, etc. The reason I put climate change out in front for me is that it sort of supercedes these ebbs and flows in the economy and government. As a global society we need to act, we need to be acting now and throughout these changes. So right now when we have a party proposing ripping up everything and then replacing it with nothing, I think that is as good an issue as any to be a #1 issue. Again I think you are being silly on insisting that this makes me "far left" when I'm ignoring most of the issues the "far left" cares most about when I prioritize this one.

lol at NDP. And lol at poilievre. Drama teachers the lot of them.

When is Canada having elections?

Chances are not till next October. Justin Trudeau pushed them back a week so all his MP's that will lose qualify for their federal pensions. As they are a minority the parties could trigger an election but surprisingly the Bloc does not want.

False. Bill C-65 is not passed. It is a proposed bill that changes things because the original date landed on the major holiday of Diwali and so obviously needs changing, but nothing is done yet and given opposition pressure it is quite plausible that this bill which is coming up in this session of parliament will experience some changes.

Hilariously Poilievre repeats endlessly every time Singh comes up about pensions (despite being a career pensioner from age of 31). It's a childless, baseless insult, but hey that's the kind of person lozen supports. In reality, the NDP oppose the date change showing they are not just doing things for their pensions. Does this stop Poilievre? No. That's just the kind of person he is.

Here is the details 80 MP's all of a sudden will now qualify for their pensions

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/her...

Hmmm I wonder if India changes its election if it falls on Easter ?

Its amusing when you don’t realize I - always - know the details substantially better than you do. Your post falsely implied it was the law - it isn’t, it is a proposal - and you completely ignored the stated reason for the change, Diwali. Just lol after such ignorance you thought you could fact check me on something I wasn’t aware.

The comparison to an India is a little gross. Canada is a multicultural nation, not a Christian nation.

No surprise
Far right in Quebec is not popular .
He rather keep trudeau instead of polievre .
The furthest right they would go in Quebec is the kind that polievre do not like very much aka Charest or Lucien Bouchard , old PC ministers.

Canada is multicultural (English and French), but both cultures are christian cultures so

The logic of “if you still support the center you must be far left” makes zero sense at all. Like if I started supporting the ndp or something you’d be like “ya that makes sense, uke isn’t far left he is centrist?”. Or is this more a story that anyone doing anything but voting for the reprehensible poilievre is “far left” in your mind?

Most countries individually have a small role, but to solve the global problem each country has a moral responsibility to act. And Canada is a massive oil producer (ie hit harder than our domestic emissions alone) and we have among the highest per capita emissions and are a rich country who benefited from emissions for decades. These mean we have a larger moral responsibility to act in my mind. It’s easy for any country to throw up their hands and say no no no we’re too small, we will care about our own domestic concerns and put this down as our 20th biggest isssue we play minor lip service todo while voting for parties that will do nothing. I disagree.

If you want to call caring about this one issue “far left” even if I’m fairly technocratic and non-partisan on most issues then uh ok fine I guess but it seems you are most interested in labeling me “far left” than anything else.

The fact you can't admit his sole reason for doing this is to ensure all his MP's that get voted out will qualify for a federal pension shows your bias .

Yes Canada is a multicultural country but we do not close down for Diwali.

Lol. The indo-canadian population is nearing 2 million, it's absolutely a big chunk of our multicultural country and totally fair to try and avoid their #1 holiday for a federal election. You can argue that maybe they should try and move it forward a week or something else to avoid the oddly timed quirk about pensions, but there is no reason not to take at face value that this is a valid and reasonable reason. Regardless, the stated and official reason for the change was because of diwali so even if you are convinced the "sole reason" had nothing at all to do with diwali you should still at least be intellectually honest enough in your posting to acknowledge what the official reason is.

And no, not "all his MPs" would qualify. It is a small minority of 22 eligible - and of course some of those will get reelected anyways so the true number is even less. You don't have to make stuff up to try and justify your points.

You just made the case for why the only reason was for pensions as to he could have moved it up a week earlier 😀