2024 ELECTION THREAD

2024 ELECTION THREAD

The next presidential race will be here soon! Please see current Bovada odds. Thoughts?

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14 July 2022 at 02:28 PM
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by formula72 k

Do you honestly not realize how idiotic this statement is? The spectrum is how we perceive it. Everything cant be on one side of it.

No. There are hard and fast tests to determine right or left.

If you support war and big business then you're right wing.


by Luciom k

Btw I am also claiming that actual "good faith" extreme environmentalism is genocidal, criminal, and should be outlawed.

People who want ONLY renewables and nuclear doesn't count, plenty of them in Europe, are criminals. Are enemies of the people, are a threat worse than the worst racist could ever be

Wow, just wow.


by StoppedRainingMen k

I don’t think Maher is right wing, I just think he’s smug, deeply unfunny and not at all entertaining

For a 70 year old white guy he's pretty left. For the nation as a whole he's probably pretty close to middle as the country is D+3 or so overall. If we have to do it in 1 dimension.


What is D-3?


by d2_e4 k

What is D-3?

A typo. Meant D+ 3 as in country would prefer a rndom Dem over a random Repub by about 3 in a random year.


by Luckbox Inc k

Most everything is right wing though.

You should ask if this can be your under title. It would save you and those who respond to you on this point a lot of time.


by Rococo k

You should ask if this can be your under title. It would save you and those who respond to you on this point a lot of time.

Hmm. This must be why my posts get so few responses.


by Luciom k

Btw I am also claiming that actual "good faith" extreme environmentalism is genocidal, criminal, and should be outlawed.

People who want ONLY renewables and nuclear doesn't count, plenty of them in Europe, are criminals. Are enemies of the people, are a threat worse than the worst racist could ever be

If you want people to quit calling you a fascist, then you probably should avoid banging on about "enemies of the people."


by Rococo k

If you want people to quit calling you a fascist, then you probably should avoid banging on about "enemies of the people."

It's infinitely worse than that for the Colonel - that is Soviet/communist phraseology.


by Rococo k

You should ask if this can be your under title. It would save you and those who respond to you on this point a lot of time.

Right wing take on the death penalty is by firing squad whereas for the left it's lethal injection.


by Luckbox Inc k

Right wing take on the death penalty is by firing squad whereas for the left it's lethal injection.

Deep, bro. Super deep. That's some deep ****. Pass the bong.


by Luckbox Inc k

Right wing take on the death penalty is by firing squad whereas for the left it's lethal injection.

That’s wild, bro

How is nobody talking about this?


by StoppedRainingMen k

I don’t think Maher is right wing, I just think he’s smug, deeply unfunny and not at all entertaining

He's also pretty oblivious. It's crazy how many jokes and points that others make go right over his head. I shared this clip in another thread, but it really epitomizes his lack of awareness.


by Rococo k

If you want people to quit calling you a fascist, then you probably should avoid banging on about "enemies of the people."

I should use "threat to democracy" which is identical but it's what your side uses yes.

Some people are inimical to core elements of society and it's not fascism to identify them as such and permanently solve the threat


by Luciom k

I should use "threat to democracy" which is identical but it's what your side uses yes.

Some people are inimical to core elements of society and it's not fascism to identify them as such and permanently solve the threat

How about "counter-revolutionary element"?


by biggerboat k

Wow, just wow.

Yes removing fossil fuels worldwide would cause millions of excess deaths per year, it's hard to think of any idea that would remove more years of human life.

Even a nuclear war exchange with 10-20 bombs used, even on big cities, wouldn't come close to that over time.

You guys don't realize it especially in the USA because you are already complaining from the left about gasoline prices even if you are 2x richer than us and pay half for it.


Or just leftist


by d2_e4 k

It's infinitely worse than that for the Colonel - that is Soviet/communist phraseology.

You are certainly correct that the phase is associated with the Soviet Union. It's also associated with fascism, especially as it relates to opposition press.

I guess it would be most accurate to say that the phrase is broadly associated with authoritarianism.


by d2_e4 k

How about "counter-revolutionary element"?

Do you accept or dent the fact that some ideologies are genocidal and complete incompatible with society and if enough people believe them and act on them they are a direct threat to society?

Do you agree that happens and you disagree with me about Marxist greens being such, or do you deny that ever happens or can happen?


by Luciom k

Do you accept or dent the fact that some ideologies are genocidal and complete incompatible with society and if enough people believe them and act on them they are a direct threat to society?

Do you agree that happens and you disagree with me about Marxist greens being such, or do you deny that ever happens or can happen?

I find it almost impossible to take you seriously when you start using this sort of wild hyperbole.


by Rococo k

You are certainly correct that the phase is associated with the Soviet Union. It's also associated with fascism, especially as it relates to opposition press.

I guess it would be most accurate to say that the phrase is broadly associated with authoritarianism.

The idea that any society which doesn't fully tolerate all direct enemies of itself living within is authoritarian is pure folly.

Having antibodies and using them isn't authoritarianism.

You guys are suicidally empathical if you can't come to your senses and accept that domestic threats can arise and legal, authorized violence is necessary to wipe them out.

Btw your side does accept that except they go fully Orwellian and claim the extreme right is such threat lol, even if the polar opposite is objectively true


by Luciom k

I should use "threat to democracy" which is identical but it's what your side uses yes.

Some people are inimical to core elements of society and it's not fascism to identify them as such and permanently solve the threat

I don't think you are going to help your cause much by shifting your focus to talking about permanent solutions to threats.


by Rococo k

I don't think you are going to help your cause much by shifting your focus to talking about permanent solutions to threats.

You think it's wrong to claim Germany needs permanent solutions to deal with neonazis?


by Luciom k

The idea that any society which doesn't fully tolerate all direct enemies of itself living within is authoritarian is pure folly.

Having antibodies and using them isn't authoritarianism.

You guys are suicidally empathical if you can't come to your senses and accept that domestic threats can arise and legal, authorized violence is necessary to wipe them out.

Btw your side does accept that except they go fully Orwellian and claim the extreme right is such threat lol, even if the polar opposite is obj

Who thinks that domestic threats don't exist? Who thinks that no steps should be taken to address domestic threats?


by Luciom k

You think it's wrong to claim Germany needs permanent solutions to deal with neonazis?

Yes, the Germans definitely need to find a final solution to deal with the threat.

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