The "LOLCANADA" thread...again
So what's new?
I've noticed the Liberals are now ahead in all major polls and Trudeau hasn't even started to campaign yet...i'd be shocked if they lost the election now.
Just shows just how incompetent Conservatives are.
I love the Environment minister talking to CTV and saying we must increase the carbon tax again in April to ensure we do not have record insurance claims due to climate change. Flat out lying to Vassy. He knows the carbon tax will do nothing to reduce claims
Lol I actually did your work for you and found the quote.
“2024 is already the costliest summer year so far in terms of environmental impacts due to climate change,” Guilbeault told Kapelos. “So, we need to keep acting, because otherwise we'll never see the end of it.”
Kapelos: "I take your point on that".
Lol, he is 100% right lozen. There are massive costs of climate change. We should continue to act. At no point does he make the silly argument that Canada could unilaterally stop climate change acting alone with zero other countries. That's just a stupid strawman. Canada should do our part precisely as he says later in the interview directly acknowledging that if we aren't doing it here in Canada, how could we possibly go and talk to other big emitters in the world and pressure them to do anything? Great point minister!! And as Kapelos says "I get your point, if we don't do it how can we expect others to?". Great agreement with the minister Kapelos!
Perhaps, although Trudeau followed through on a surprisingly large number of election promises over the previous elections. You're of course right that no party ever does 100%, but on this measuring stick pretty good.
My complaint is that Poilievre should at least tell us the plans and some of their details. Right now we have empty slogans. Doesn't that seem weird that he is calling for non-confidence and Canadians don't have details about what he actually wants to do?
You are so untrustworthy I
He has announced his main policy Axe the tax that is all CDN"s need to hear .
Surprisingly large amount he has broken most of the ones CDN's cared about
Lol I actually did your work for you and found the quote.
“2024 is already the costliest summer year so far in terms of environmental impacts due to climate change,” Guilbeault told Kapelos. “So, we need to keep acting, because otherwise we'll never see the end of it.”
Kapelos: "I take your point on that".
Lol, he is 100% right lozen. There are massive costs of climate change. We should continue to act. At no point does he make the silly argument that Canada could unilaterally stop climate change
No he is lying no matter what Canada does it will have zero effect on climate change .
Reprehensible. Hopefully poilievre has the backbone to strongly and emphatically condemn making gay sex jokes in the House of Commons.
If I say You and Montrealcorp enjoy your tub together that is not a homophobic slur . Sadly your Drama Teacher leader wants to try and make it out to be one
What a horrifying attitude. You can be a partisan AND demand better from your politicians! You can say you are voting for Poilievre 100% no matter AND say he really ought to release detailed plans on the major files Canadians care about.
Politically you might be right, Canadians are profoundly ignorant. Only half of Canadians (in the provinces it applies) are even aware whether or not they are eligible for the rebate and less than half even understand the link between the payment they are getting and the carbon tax. So there is profound ignorance about the basics of the carbon tax in poiliere's desired "carbon tax election". So sure, his disinformation and no plans might be all people like you need to hear. But I think we can demand more.
No he is lying no matter what Canada does it will have zero effect on climate change .
Kapelos: "I take your point on that". I think if you are going to call anyone who ever suggests doing anything to combat climate change as "lying" because Canada is a small percentage of global emissions then you can't ever say anything. He directly mentioned in the interview other countries, like at no point does he ever suggest Canada all by itself alone without any other country is going to change things.
If I say You and Montrealcorp enjoy your tub together that is not a homophobic slur . Sadly your Drama Teacher leader wants to try and make it out to be one
Lol. OF COURSE the innuendo of two men "enjoying the tub together" is a gay sex joke, why on earth are you pretending otherwise? I didn't think you'd care about your party tossing out homophobic comments in the house of commons, but pretending it isn't even homophobic is just silly.
I remember in 1999 highschool how funny it was to say lol ur gay every minute. I just kinda hoped a couple decades later IN THE HOUSE OF COMMONS our parliamentarians would have a higher standard.
Silence from Poilievre so far. #leadership
I randomly click the start of the thread as opposed to the end of the thread. Second post ITT from before the 2019 election:
[QUOTE=uke_master]new analysis of the cons environmental plan that was (shocker) basically that it will cost way more and do way less when you get rid of that ol' carbon tax[/QUOTE]Kinda sad that in past elections the conservatives at least pretend to have bad plans they wouldn't actually implement. I guess the empty AXETHEREBATE and replace it with nothing plan of Poilievre's is somehow more honest?
again Canada has near no effect on climate change and is a northern climate so is effected the least. Efforts should be brought in through international efforts not local elections. its a really really weird thing t worry about as your number 1 issue in canada. Canada is not a global leader with any real influence
Flat out lie .
Canada is one of the biggest emission per capita in the world .
Little higher then the US .
The most north you are , highest the climate changes takes effects .
https://arctic-council.org/explore/topic...
The temperatures in the Arctic continue to rise at three times the global annual average, driving many of the changes underway in the Arctic. Most prominently, snow and ice are melting at an increasing rate. This impacts both local ecosystems and the global climate system. It contributes to rising sea levels, and is likely to provoke extreme temperature events beyond the Arctic. The effects of a shifting Arctic climate are felt across the high latitudes and beyond – with global environmental, economic, and social implications.
https://www.yukon-news.com/news/climate-...
Canada, overall, is warming at twice as fast as the rest of the world on average, according to Canada’s Changing Climate Report, with the country’s average annual temperature having risen 1.7 C between 1948 and 2016. However, the North has been warming faster than the south, with the territories seeing a 2.3 C increase — three times the global average — during that time frame.
Flat out lie .
Canada is one of the biggest emission per capita in the world .
Little higher then the US .
Your chart shows USA at 2 and Canada at 11?
The most north you are , highest the climate changes takes effects .
Your right on that as many structures are built on perma frost which is melting. I have a ex in the Yukon that says foundations in houses are dealing with that as are many roads and infrastructure. Huge Problem that everything Canada is doing will have no effect on fixing it
Imagine if every country in the world adopted lozen's approach where that country couldn't individually make a significant global change and thus that country shouldn't do anything.
He doesn't realize it, but what lozen is really making the case for is an international tariff situation where there are crippling economic tariffs on laggard countries that don't pull their weight.
Flat out lie .
Canada is one of the biggest emission per capita in the world .
Little higher then the US .
The most north you are , highest the climate changes takes effects .
"per gdp" lmao not gonna give the real numbers in percentages are you because you know it proves my point. that second article is retarget. climate change is opening up the north west passage and that's probably the best thing that can happen for canada. your article pretty much says its changes the artic the most. which is true but it changes it for the better the artic ****ing sucks. if you wanna save the artic go live there.
The best thing for climate change we can do is push for nuclear energy but no ones doing that and the left is against it for some reason. Thats also current numbers are small percentage of the pie is massively shrinking yearly as the undeveloped world develops. Who are we to say "go back to being poor" its an awkward morale highground thats out of our control anyway
It's about our moral responsibility to act. Because Canada has a higher emissions per capita than most, we have a disproportionate responsibility compared to our population size. Yes Canada is never going to contribute a high portion of total emissions, but we still have a responsibility to do our part, and it can only be when we actually ARE doing our part that we can advocate for other countries to do the same with any sense of moral authority.
The NDP might oppose nuclear power, but Trudeau at least talks up the use of nuclear power and small modular reactors in particular and has this as a plank of the future net-zero economy. Yet another reason to support him!
The above on SMRs prompted a bit of reading. A really good example of a file that is actually complex and doesn't rise to the major headline news so it can simmer beneath the surface, but that there is actually a TONNE of movement in the action plan https://smractionplan.ca/. Tonnes of transparency listing the 119 organizations being worked with and the 520 separate actions being tracked and how they relate to the overall action plan. This kind of slow groundwork isn't sexy or flashy, but it is needed to actually make progress.
I know Poilievre casually talks about Nuclear Power, but hopefully this is a file his government picks up and really continues the progress.
but we don't vote for the prime minister. we vote for our representative. and my liberal representative is Anthony Rota and the cons are running a 30 year old. so im voting the 30 year old. unless the libs also run a 30 year old **** old people XD
I think the liberals should prop change leader tho would help sway me. I generally just vote for which ever party is in power so my representative is in the majority. Like I voted rota a couple times because he was pretty high ranking in the party and had the sway being speaker of the house and all. but ah... he kinda blew that so he lost my vote
lol well Anthony Rota won't be running in the next election but that has to be among the silliest possible reasons to vote for someone. She seems mostly compelling unknown, but at least based on her twitter it's a just a poilievre clone machine offering the same four slogans over and over and over again.
I vote based on policies. You seem to think Canada shouldn't do anything on climate change and so great, you should definitely vote for someone rubber stamping Poilievbre's do nothing approach. But don't vote for her because she is 30.
I still feel bad for Rota - not saying he shouldn't have stepped down, but damn that is one unlucky ass way to have to leave.
I think politics should be younger if I have nothing else to go on that will definitely be a huge reason. If I have to vote between two first timers ill lean the young person in the majority party. if she sucks who cares vote her out next time. well all votes are kind of a waste of time
"per gdp" lmao not gonna give the real numbers in percentages are you because you know it proves my point. that second article is retarget. climate change is opening up the north west passage and that's probably the best thing that can happen for canada. your article pretty much says its changes the artic the most. which is true but it changes it for the better the artic ****ing sucks. if you wanna save the artic go live there.
The best thing for climate change we can do is push for nuclear energ
What you talking about ?
I’m not talking about gdp .
I’m talking emission carbon per capita .
The solely advantage of northwest passage to Canada in the artic compare to all the **** it would do to the rest of the world with no more ice cap on the planet is ridiculous ….
We already have costly problem in Canada .
As if they will go down with higher changes ???
Nuclear energy cost tens of billions of dollars (where will you get the money ) with very dangerous effect if ever an accident (or terrorist attack) happens .
Without saying about nuclear waste we can’t do nothing with it .
I think politics should be younger if I have nothing else to go on that will definitely be a huge reason. If I have to vote between two first timers ill lean the young person in the majority party. if she sucks who cares vote her out next time. well all votes are kind of a waste of time
This just seems really silly and kinda irresponsible. Parties always have a bunch of MPs that are largely irrelevant backbenchers who just parrot the leader's lines in the hope of one day being rewarded for being the youngest minister or whatever. But right now there are important and significant differences between the parties (on some files, on many others there is no functional difference), and this backbencher who might suck is still going to be loyally determining who wins, and whether that win is a minority or a majority.
Occasionally I could find an argument that says there is a particularly stellar MP with a really great set of ideas and perspectives so that even if they aren't the party I think should win, they'll do a lot of good in the party. Maybe. Rarely. But to just say lololol I'm voting the younger one? That seems silly. If you want a party that does nothing on climate change, vote for her, but don't vote for her because the poilievre parrot happens to be young.
lol well Anthony Rota won't be running in the next election but that has to be among the silliest possible reasons to vote for someone. She seems mostly compelling unknown, but at least based on her twitter it's a just a poilievre clone machine offering the same four slogans over and over and over again.
I vote based on policies. You seem to think Canada shouldn't do anything on climate change and so great, you should definitely vote for someone rubber stamping Poilievbre's do nothing approach.
Seems like lots of folks are jumping off the sinking ship SS Trudeau
I think Canada can do reasonable things for climate change like nuclear energy it just should not be a #1 priority . its not actually more expensive its just the upfront cost is. with new tech the life span of plants are increasing which makes it quite cheap comparative. only oil and coal beat it in price
I think Canada can do reasonable things for climate change like nuclear energy it just should not be a #1 priority . its not actually more expensive its just the upfront cost is. with new tech the life span of plants are increasing which makes it quite cheap comparative. only oil and coal beat it in price
what on earth are you talking policy for, I thought you just voted for whoever was youngest?!?
I said its a tie breaker.... I also said based on potential influence in a party and if your younger your potential is stronger
I think Canada can do reasonable things for climate change like nuclear energy it just should not be a #1 priority . its not actually more expensive its just the upfront cost is. with new tech the life span of plants are increasing which makes it quite cheap comparative. only oil and coal beat it in price
Actually Natural Gas is cheaper than both and we have tons of it and countries have begged Trudeau for it but he keeps saying no. Natural Gas is a green energy .
As for these Mini Nuclear Reactors I agree with Uke on this but good luck on getting them approved in our political system . If One bull Frog must die or one Indigenous tribe opposes it its going to be held up in the courts for 5-10 years. I am not sure our current Environment Minister even supports it
The best thing Canada could do to fight Climate change is export as much Natural Gas as it can and end all exports of USA coal through its ports .
Wow CTV fired the reporters that edited a video on Pierre . Bad look for them though
Lozen did you see the German minister of something or other saying there was no need for Canadian natural gas to Germany, but that they were interested in future clean energy like hydrogen, confirming precisely Trudeau’s comments about there not being a business case for Canadian natural gas exports to Germany?
Also love this that massive companies like Dow chemicals incesting in Canada in part because of the carbon tax on industrial polluters which actually incentivizes companies like Dow that actually invest in lowering their emissions and now get credit for doing so.
I said its a tie breaker.... I also said based on potential influence in a party and if your younger your potential is stronger
You think the LPC vs the CPC is a tie breaker kinda thing?
Young people in parliament, rightly or wrongly, are usually relegated to backbenchers keeping the seat warming a dutifully parroting the leaders line in the vain hope they might might might get a minor committee seat if they are loyal enough. There are rare exceptions.
CTV cowering against the anti-democratic threats from poilievre is sad to see.
