QQ facing shove

Jam.

Also, UTG and I both had approx. $300 to start the hand.

I think a call/jam is fine. Only really hate AcKx.

I would just call, I think keeping utg in is good for us.

What confused me in the moment was not only having to account for UTG, but also how much weight, if any, should be given to Villain's bet into two people on the flop?

SPR is under 1 with shorty, we need under 33% equity. He can show us a king and we should still call.

I considered the $100 bet Part 1 of the AI, since I assume the $35ish is following. Also, is the 33% equity calculation assuming we are behind to a K or a smaller flush and that hitting the Q-high flush will always be good?

Here if he has 135 we need 135 / 420 = 32% equity to call off his jam (clearly the 100 implies the 135 is gonna be in soon.). I didn’t run any sims but we have 10-11 outs against a king, are flipping with most Ac hands, and have 7 outs against a flush. Surely against that range we have the required equity. And sometimes we will have the best hand and the best draw.

As I'm waiting for my morning caffeine to kick in, I'm trying to figure out how the presence of a third player with possible equity changes any of the above, especially since we're not drawing to the nuts.

That’s a very complicated question. First off, does he call the 100 with a king? Does he fold that to a jam? Does he fold the Ac to a jam but call 100?

My guess is he has the same range as shorty to continue for 100, minus some of the best hands like flushes and sets and some Kx that he would have bet.

My intuition says we do better with his overlay in there but I could be convinced otherwise.

If he calls 100 and turn isn’t a club we can jam and try to win a side pot or push him off a king.

I fold the flop but that's just me.

I don't know why we're calling just because "he's short". He's till getting his money in against 2 other players so I don't see how our draw could be live, and our pair's probably not even good either.

If I were to guess he probably has AcKx.

I wouldn't discount AK, I would discount AA/KK, but people in 1/3 (especially a readless guy who seems limpy passive so far) would def l/c AK since they think of it as a drawing hand.

I don't think suited aces are in his range as played, so that leaves PP's like 99/66 that made a set but I don't think he's doing this with a draw or hands we're ahead of atm.

Mostly just contributing to the pot and reducing our required equity to make this +EV, I think. Everyone limp called or cold called. Nobody should have AK here except H, especially as short as everyone is. (50 straddles deep, and that's the big stack? Shrug.)

Maybe one of them has Axcc? Oh well. AcXx would be annoying to face, and maybe the shorty has it, but aren't offsuit aces typically open or 3!/f kind of hands?

66 is what I'm mildly (it's only 50 straddles) worried about. And no one should have that either, except maybe for shorty. I dunno. I don't have a limp/call range for 1/4 my stack in cash.

FWIW, during my 3.5 hours at the table, I saw one person limp-call with QQ and another person limp-call with KK. 🙂

So I can't completely rule-out any hand for either player.

Those are outliers. Loose passive fish still know they should raise or limp raise AK almost all of the time. He’s way more likely to have AT or KJ than AK.

I can't remember the last time I saw someone LRR with AK, although I've seen plenty of people limp-call with AK.

I can’t remember the last time I didn’t limp raise with AK utg 😁 shout out to GG!

You, yes, but a loose passive population?

Also, surely you open raise AK utg often, not just limp raise?

Table dependent but most of the time I don’t have a raising range utg. And if I do I usually wouldn’t raise AK or AA which plays so much better at lower spr when we’re oop (or a really high spr where we can play some small ball against someone who might not have called a raise pre.) Also, stealing 20bb pre with ace high is so much better than going oop multi way with a very narrow range.

I play mostly 2-3 and 3-5 but have played plenty of 1-2 and don’t see people limp call AK as often as other posters.

Rest of the hand:

FWIW, I am raising flop. UTG should not have much here, and I actually want him out of the hand. I just wanna be heads up against villain.

rts

Youve got a pair and 2nd nfd with less than a psb to go, just gii. I dont love the table talk or anything but yeah.

Also people just never fold their straddle.