Moderation Questions

lmao I remember that one, definitely a banger.

Probably because although "all lives matter" is a right-wing troll, it's actually a left-wing value that all lives do actually matter and someone probably thought your saying that some human beings have low value was abhorrent - even if they disagreed with the politics of those people.

no the infraction was because of purported insults to a fellow poster (because CN misread the post), it is not against the rules to consider right-wing low info voters low value, or all the leftists in this forum would have been Perma banned already.

It was even funnier because you said they should die if they read something false on the internet and believe it. lol

So I’ve overturned Luciom’s infraction because he is correct that I misread it as a personal attack to another poster.

The bad news is that upon review his post is actually worse than what I previously believed, and demonstrates a callous disregard for the lives of those suffering from Hurricane Helene, and describes them as “low value” if they were to believe the spread of misinformation.

It is abhorrent posting, and, given the consistent pattern of Luciom’s contributions to the forum, will be moderated in kind.

In other news, the soup was an Italian sausage in Parmesan cream broth with mushrooms, sweet onions, and spinach mmmm

I never saw the post in question, but FWIW, using "low value" and "high value" to refer to individuals or groups of people is pretty common in the "right wing" social media world, and certainly isn't considered morally "beyond the pale" like you perceive it.

IMO it is pretty equivalent to the prevalence on the left saying, "from the river to the sea" and arguing when they say that they aren't saying anything beyond the pale; even if many (especially many Jews) disagree.

Expect dozens of righteously indignant posts when the temp ban expires.

The fact that something is pretty common and acceptable on right wing social media isn't particularly relevant imo.

Yeah, we have much lower standards.

it is because it sets expectations, especially for someone who is navigating behind a cultural and language barrier and needs that crutch

fwiw i still have utterly no concept of what it was that he said which got him banned so it's clearly not a simple matter

Yet your ok with all the lefties referring to Trump supporters as worse just as your ok spreading false information about JD Vance and his couch yourself .

I am sure many people in these disaster zones and previous ones like Hawaii and east Palestine feel like low class citizens the way they are treated .

Its sad

I would not think there was anything wrong with using the term "low value" the way he does. Once the moderator spelled out how she perceives the term, I can understand her perspective, and wouldn't choose that hill to die on.

But like I said, it is pretty common in the online social media vernacular, doesn't carry such connotations in this milieu, and it isn't self evident it is beyond the moral pale.

He said he didn’t care if all the Helene victims die if they’re stupid enough to believe online information about how to receive aid, and referred to them as low value lives.

The post is still up, fwiw.

Luciom is frankly nearing the end of his time here. I said last time that the next instance would be a perma, but I’ve decided to give him one more chance to get it right. The constant wishing people dead or executed needs to be toned way the **** back, though.

I think if we're banning for misanthropy then I have some names I'd like to nominate.

I'm deeply misanthropic and I manage to not wish death on black people, hispanics, middle easterners, and stupid white people on a regular basis even if I want equal death and destruction for all

He said that he didn’t care if Trump supporters die if they see misinformation. Ironically me, a lefty, was arguing that it’s pretty messed up that people are spreading all these conspiracies about FEMA and misrepresenting the amount of aid that effected people are getting, and that I think it’s getting people killed.

He said if they can’t google info to see if it’s correct then they don’t deserve to live.

So the lefty was the one caring about Trump supporters and the righty was the one wishing death on them. Sad!

Except you're a lib not a lefty.

Kinda respect a man who can **** a couch, the chafing would be way too painful for most guys.

IIRC there was a latex glove finger and copious amounts of Vaseline involved.

Your right I looked for the post and could not find it. In the context I would agree a suspension is warranted but when individuals here wished Trump dead all they got was a warning

My apologies to Crossnerd

Bolded doesn't apply to Luciom at all.

Wishing Trump dead is about the immense difference that would have for billions of people. Mostly anyway. Wishing random virtually powerless people dead because you think they are dumb or because of their politics is awful.