My results of grinding 2NL 5NL 10NL 25NL 50NL 100NL

My results of grinding 2NL 5NL 10NL 25NL 50NL 100NL

Hello everyone, I want to share with you my 20 days result with 50$ deposit on GGpoker

2NL was awful, after like 15k hand

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11 September 2023 at 12:13 PM
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by blazar k

yea really thug life we're having here

if you have any other option just move - having figured out you're not making any dough


by norwich k

if you have any other option just move - having figured out you're not making any dough

I’m having a dilemma now, not sure what to do, i know zoom is bad but my ambition to beat it is killing me

Basically I’m sacrificing my time, while i could play softer games and actually earn money which i need for life expenses right now

Basically I’m hurting myself because it’s kind of waste of time but in the other hand for improvement it’s really great, volume wise it’s so so good if i beat it, will see one more month with improved strategy if i can beat it or not


if u can access stars its lower rake and i doubt the pool is that much tougher

look at which stake u have beat at a real sample (if any) and move down one step , no matter how small it gets like lets say you beat nl10 then you go play nl5 just double ur volume

then you just stick to it and every day post here 5 hands minimum i will try to analyze them


The KJ is played bad.

You need to think how many streets you got value?

Will anyone ever check raise bluff when your range is like top-pairs+.

You made a very odd small bet so he found an odd bluff raise but the problem is you need to play straightforward use big bets there not small.

River I dont know what to think of his range maybe the jam is fine hard to see urself being beat that point like ever.

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Check the flop back then if he fires twice u call him down.
If he checks turn stab like 50% turn and bet 70% on river.


by blazar k

yea seems like im too desperate to stack off villains

agree, if we see lets say top 10 winners of NL25 regular tables it looks like this

3-4bb winrate but when sample is close to 1m they're under 1bb winrate, im sure those players are highly table selecting too, now imagine zoom players winrate? we don't have zoom players database but maybe all top winners are just breakeven players, yea really thug life we're having here

Zoom games you can win 20-35bb/100 If you crusher. Those bum hunt reg tables i have no idea. I aiming to play against regs but eatin all fishes aroad.


GG is good for one thing.

If you want to become like a livepro in Macau!

The pool is filled with same guys.

You will figure out all their tilting lines.

Lets say flop is AK2r you cbet BB calls. Turn brings a 7 with a FD. You bet again. This GG china guy might pick his pocket 33 and raise to show it down on river. Or whatever 45s backdoor FD.

Then when river flush hits he will turn his 33 to a blockbet bluff and also blockbet with the flushes he got there with.

It is like playing high-IQ fishes which is more like playing with regs which means lower winrate etc and you need to really be an expert with all those tricks and ploys which takes at least 1M hands of playing those pools.

I consider playing GG nl50 or nl25 just to learn those china fishes and crush similar pool at live 2k+.


by Djerevan k

GG is good for one thing.

If you want to become like a livepro in Macau!

The pool is filled with same guys.

You will figure out all their tilting lines.

Lets say flop is AK2r you cbet BB calls. Turn brings a 7 with a FD. You bet again. This GG china guy might pick his pocket 33 and raise to show it down on river. Or whatever 45s backdoor FD.

Then when river flush hits he will turn his 33 to a blockbet bluff and also blockbet with the flushes he got there with.

It is like playing high-IQ fishes which

you play in those live games?


No. played there 5/T was tight games vast majority. 10/20 way too big for me. (mentally particularly) not enjoying big games. 2/5 is great.


by Djerevan k

GG is good for one thing.

If you want to become like a livepro in Macau!

The pool is filled with same guys.

You will figure out all their tilting lines.

Lets say flop is AK2r you cbet BB calls. Turn brings a 7 with a FD. You bet again. This GG china guy might pick his pocket 33 and raise to show it down on river. Or whatever 45s backdoor FD.

Then when river flush hits he will turn his 33 to a blockbet bluff and also blockbet with the flushes he got there with.

It is like playing high-IQ fishes which

Yea sometimes i feel like even tho im playing against fishes they aren’t real fishes, their VPIP is high, PFR is low, everything seems right but feeling is that im not getting paid enough, either those fishes got better as poker advanced or GG has different type of fishes


well exactly and its exactly what i felt when played those macau 50/100 hkd games paying off big rake to play those kinds of nitt donks.

if have to guess most of the gg fish are like sopshisticated hong-kong players not like mainland chinese guys with no clue.

then you throw that massive rake to the conclusion and its not a miracle that nobody wins.


by Djerevan k

well exactly and its exactly what i felt when played those macau 50/100 hkd games paying off big rake to play those kinds of nitt donks.

if have to guess most of the gg fish are like sopshisticated hong-kong players not like mainland chinese guys with no clue.

then you throw that massive rake to the conclusion and its not a miracle that nobody wins.

Also i feel like making mistakes are crucial, i need to play perfect game all the time to beat the limits and its really possible to beat but only if i make very few to none mistakes, as long as i make mistakes regularly per session im no longer a winner, too hard but it’s ok hard way is best way to learn and improve


you play micro all players there make mistakes all around nothing you can do about it but the rake being unbeatable is big problem.

i will play 1k hands nl10 fast fold on pokerstars. Tell you what I think after about it.


by Djerevan k

you play micro all players there make mistakes all around nothing you can do about it but the rake being unbeatable is big problem.

i will play 1k hands nl10 fast fold on pokerstars. Tell you what I think after about it.

I was playing on pokerstars years ago until my country restricted it but anyway i heard its dying and GG is taking over


you need to play very tight at micro , boom boom boom value everywhere and fold them they arent bluffing.



by Djerevan k

you need to play very tight at micro , boom boom boom value everywhere and fold them they arent bluffing.

This type of hand never happens to me lol they always fold


Rarely happens. I mean to him it was just usd 14.

But he knows he will never win the hand.

So its not so common anymore that someone just wants to give money away.



I check flop, villain checks back, than he calls my turn overbet, at this point i have intuition from my experience, i know these type of players, they check weak A pairs to pot control etc

My thought process was like i need to make bet that they can't call, i know their psychology they're afraid to pot get out of control, they just want safe little pots with their weak A so i shove x5 pot, they must fold almost always but surprisingly after a little tank he called

I think sometimes they just can't fold, this is good experience for me to exploit and add more river shoves with nuts in my arsenal


you should go to some famous site then run those preflop ranges back and front for the rake of micro just learned them by hard

never cold call the sb as a rule of thumb.

you try to go super hard push him off his range , its not really something you can super frequently do anywhere nowadays but particularly at like microstakes he just thinks oh its just 10 bucks and calls it off so I don't like ur play in that sense.

But its a bit like how OTB-redbaron run over newbies at nl500 10 years ago so maybe ur a hidden talent


by Djerevan k

you should go to some famous site then run those preflop ranges back and front for the rake of micro just learned them by hard

never cold call the sb as a rule of thumb.

you try to go super hard push him off his range , its not really something you can super frequently do anywhere nowadays but particularly at like microstakes he just thinks oh its just 10 bucks and calls it off so I don't like ur play in that sense.

But its a bit like how OTB-redbaron run over newbies at nl500 10 years ago so mayb

I cold call from SB with tight range actually with hands like i don’t like to 3bet OOP like KJ KT QJ JT etc what should i do just fold? Those hands are too good to fold

OTB_RedBaron played like that really? I always thought he was just very solid and that was his advantage


Also i frequently check in PT4 my results as a preflop caller in 2bet pots, profitability seems ok as long as i play aggressively and push players off their range


He exploited when the population overfolded.

Range you describe cold calling sb is very loose like TJo is very loose KTo is very loose. etc. Those aren't playable hands from sb.

Play it as 3-bet or fold , trust me. BB squeezes u and u just bleed money when u play the cold call range and vs button u dont realize ur equity really no matter what u do bcz ur being OOP with a fishy range and you pay rakes for all of that.


Then if something in ur strat is just build to crush certain level of noobs you take that stuff to next level and they don't play the same way then u have a difficulty to not get beat by urself using ur own strategies , that's why you want to play solid strategies in generally.

Best micro strategy is to play tight and go for max value always. They are full emotional its 10 dollars 20 dollars if that guy on button happens be on tilt he will click call in a split second with something random.


by Djerevan k

He exploited when the population overfolded.

Range you describe cold calling sb is very loose like TJo is very loose KTo is very loose. etc. Those aren't playable hands from sb.

Play it as 3-bet or fold , trust me. BB squeezes u and u just bleed money when u play the cold call range and vs button u dont realize ur equity really no matter what u do bcz ur being OOP with a fishy range and you pay rakes for all of that.

by Djerevan k

Then if something in ur strat is just build to crush certain level of noobs you take that stuff to next level and they don't play the same way then u have a difficulty to not get beat by urself using ur own strategies , that's why you want to play solid strategies in generally.

Best micro strategy is to play tight and go for max value always. They are full emotional its 10 dollars 20 dollars if that guy on button happens be on tilt he will click call in a split second with something random.

Redbaron had breakeven redline, i believe he wasn’t that extreme to bluff with whole stack he was maybe stabbing a lot but generally had very solid gameplay

Nowadays when i observe some top pros lets say Malinowski, he’s super solid, i never saw him bluffing off his stack, usually when he bets big he has a big hand, what i mean by this is that not only in micros but also in high stakes best strategy can be to play tight and go for max value

i have tears in my eyes how those nosebleed games are run, table starts as soon as 1 fish joins, table immediately disappears as soon as that fish leaves, some days ago i was watching them play there was a fish i believe name is “Day”something, he typed in chat “Barack is good” i laughed my ass off thinking “this guy dont even know these guys are playing here because of him, he thinks he can have ambition to describe who is good and who is bad” he was thinking he was equal, he didn’t even feel like he was the sucker there

Anyway lets get back to my ranges, so is there any hand i can call from SB?



Here is my stats from last sessions of NL10 as a caller from SB, looks im in profit but maybe they squeeze less from BB at these stakes, yeah as i move up this can no longer be profitable

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